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[DoctorDodge]

I think they just went for Four because he's one of the most popular and was the Doctor for the longest.

[fearless-freak]

technically doesn't the award for the longest and shortest reign as the doctor go to Paul McGann when you think about it

[stkmw02]

Just in case some other newbies pop in...

The War Games

I can't imagine being a companion and going through so much with the Doctor - especially seeing his home planet - and then having it all erased. And yet, that means any one of us can simply have no recollection of being a companion. So, I guess that's a nice thought? And I understand that continuing a normal human life after traveling with the Doctor would be quite a challenge. Forming a bond with a Scottish man from the past and being separated by time would also be upsetting... so, it was the 'right thing to do'. I guess I just never put much thought into how valuable the memory of the companions could be. And I am hopeful that they still have that "feeling" and some of the lessons they learned built in to their minds and hearts even after being returned to their lives.

As for the Doctor... it was nice to see his character develop so much, to draw more parallels between him and the future regenerations of himself. His monologue/defense in the final part was so much like David Tennant... that heart for humanity and doing good, that frustration and wit and courage in voicing those things. I feel his 'sentence' was appropriate, though I was a little surprised at the regeneration (?). I sort of wanted a little more there before it ended.

Overall, I see a lot of connections to the 'history' I learned in the newer episodes. I'm enjoying watching the third Doctor wake up right now... examining his own features for the first time. In color! lol

[DoctorDodge]

Just in case some other newbies pop in...

The War Games

I can't imagine being a companion and going through so much with the Doctor - especially seeing his home planet - and then having it all erased. And yet, that means any one of us can simply have no recollection of being a companion. So, I guess that's a nice thought? And I understand that continuing a normal human life after traveling with the Doctor would be quite a challenge. Forming a bond with a Scottish man from the past and being separated by time would also be upsetting... so, it was the 'right thing to do'. I guess I just never put much thought into how valuable the memory of the companions could be. And I am hopeful that they still have that "feeling" and some of the lessons they learned built in to their minds and hearts even after being returned to their lives.

As for the Doctor... it was nice to see his character develop so much, to draw more parallels between him and the future regenerations of himself. His monologue/defense in the final part was so much like David Tennant... that heart for humanity and doing good, that frustration and wit and courage in voicing those things. I feel his 'sentence' was appropriate, though I was a little surprised at the regeneration (?). I sort of wanted a little more there before it ended.

Overall, I see a lot of connections to the 'history' I learned in the newer episodes. I'm enjoying watching the third Doctor wake up right now... examining his own features for the first time. In color! lol

Spoiler:

I suppose it was 'the right thing to do', it's just that with Jamie, he was always one of the most loyal companions, sticking with the 2nd Doctor for close to his entire era. So it was sad that he lost so much, but the final scene of his put a smile on both the Doctor's and my faces, at least.

I really do adore that story, and think it's a worthy send-off for 2. To think, for 6 years, up until that story, there hadn't even been a mention of the Doctor's race. Suddenly, we not only find out that they're called the "Time Lords", but we find out just how powerful they really are and it changes the show in a massive way. It was bold to end the regeneration in mystery, but I've gotta admit, it's a favourite cliffhanger of mine.

And I love 3! First Doctor I ever watched. Spearhead from Space is a classic.

[stkmw02]

Spoiler:

I suppose it was 'the right thing to do', it's just that with Jamie, he was always one of the most loyal companions, sticking with the 2nd Doctor for close to his entire era. So it was sad that he lost so much, but the final scene of his put a smile on both the Doctor's and my faces, at least.

I really do adore that story, and think it's a worthy send-off for 2. To think, for 6 years, up until that story, there hadn't even been a mention of the Doctor's race. Suddenly, we not only find out that they're called the "Time Lords", but we find out just how powerful they really are and it changes the show in a massive way. It was bold to end the regeneration in mystery, but I've gotta admit, it's a favourite cliffhanger of mine.

And I love 3! First Doctor I ever watched. Spearhead from Space is a classic.

Jamie

For Jamie, his return stung me a bit more. He would have died for the Doctor and I think that the short scene of his return made me sad for the part of himself he may not get to know. He, as a character, grew so much through his journey and I really felt he also had a little love interest going on there that he won't even remember now. At least Zoe has that moment where she feels there is something she is forgetting... and that look on her face, almost like the memories aren't gone, but are 'dreamlike' in there somewhere. That moment really made an impact on me. So then seeing Jamie run off - while in true Jamie style, amusing - made me ache a little for more. It's so hard to let go!

Adjusting to this color is tough! I can't believe I got so accustomed to the black and white.
Anyone else think Shaw looks like Riversong? (Or, time wise, perhaps the other way around?)

[DoctorDodge]

You know what, I can imagine it being tough to adjust to colour - especially at the start when, right from that title sequence, it's about as colourful as you can get! Pertwee's early seasons are a regular psychedelic rainbow! You get used to it.

Can't quite see the Liz Shaw/River Song resemblance myself. Oh, and how awesome is it to see the Brigadier again? My favourite part of the Pertwee era is that he's a regular character - he's practically the Watson to the Doctor's Holmes.

[fearless-freak]

i have one of the second Doctor

[Fall of Gilead]

Holy smeggin' schnozz!!

http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglopheni...p-time-change/

[DoctorDodge]

Exciting, isn't it? Can't wait to see what Capaldi's new costume will look like!

[tippy4]

Don't know if this was posted already....but I guess John Hurt was the 9th Doctor.

[DoctorDodge]

Oh yeah. Watched that episode countless times. One of my favourite moments of last year was the fact that the bastards had finally finished Eight's story. I also loved how it brought a nice ending to the 'classic' era with "Doctor no more". One of my favourite aspects of Day of the Doctor was how it celebrated 50 years, including the stuff we didn't see during the time it was off the air.

Did you see Day of the Doctor by the way, tippy4?

[pathoftheturtle]

... I guess John Hurt was the 9th Doctor.

Uh... not... quite...



8½ x 11

[Fall of Gilead]

Eleven is taller than John Hurt!!

[tippy4]

Oh yeah. Watched that episode countless times. One of my favourite moments of last year was the fact that the bastards had finally finished Eight's story. I also loved how it brought a nice ending to the 'classic' era with "Doctor no more". One of my favourite aspects of Day of the Doctor was how it celebrated 50 years, including the stuff we didn't see during the time it was off the air.

Did you see Day of the Doctor by the way, tippy4?

I did indeed.

So in the last episode, The Doctor says that #10 used the same face twice...which is why Matt Smith is #13 when you count John Hurt as #9.

So is he saying the Christopher Eccleston Doctor used the same face twice?.....making him both 10 and 11?

[Fall of Gilead]

Maybe I'm confusing this but they're counting 10's metacrisis in Journey's End as a regen and also the 8 to John Hurt regen as seen in Night of the Doctor short.

[fearless-freak]

[DoctorDodge]

New e-book Tales of Trenzalore is out next month: http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2014/01...114163012.html

I'm really looking forward to this. I like the idea of exploring more about the 11th Doctor's final days. It'll also provide a slight break from the New Adventures (which I'll post some thoughts up soon as I'm done reading the 4th novel) while still providing my fix of Who.

[pathoftheturtle]

So in the last episode, The Doctor says that #10 used the same face twice...which is why Matt Smith is #13 when you count John Hurt as #9.

So is he saying the Christopher Eccleston Doctor used the same face twice?.....making him both 10 and 11?

Huhn; looks like you're right; he did say "number ten."

"Well, number ten once regenerated and kept the same face. I had vanity issues at the time."

I guess that makes the numbers canon after all.
But even though David Tennant was technically the 11th and 12th incarnations, Doctor number ten still refers his face, clearly. The evidence:

"Used the regeneration energy to heal myself, but soon as I was done, I didn't need to change. I didn't want to. Why would I? Look at me. So, to stop the energy going all the way, I siphoned off the rest ..."

~ The Doctor, just after his 11th regeneration,
Episode 4.13, "Journey's End"

[Heather19]

When did Tennant regenerate without changing? And would that really count as one? I would think it would only be a partial regeneration at most therefore not taking up an actual regeneration.

[pathoftheturtle]

When did Tennant regenerate without changing? And would that really count as one? I would think it would only be a partial regeneration at most therefore not taking up an actual regeneration.

The rest of the energy ended up somewhere else. Spoilers. Better watch Series 4.

[Heather19]

I've seen it, it's just been awhile. What ep was it during, maybe I'll go back and rewatch that one.

[pathoftheturtle]

Ep. 4.13 "Journey's End" It's called a meta-crisis, whole thing with Donna & Rose. I posted a coolish, relevant pic on this thread a while back.

[Fall of Gilead]

Glancing blow by a Dalek laser!

[DoctorDodge]

When did Tennant regenerate without changing? And would that really count as one? I would think it would only be a partial regeneration at most therefore not taking up an actual regeneration.

He still used up all the regeneration energy, it was just only partially used by him and the rest used up by his spare hand. Which I'm kinda glad about. Regeneration is still a big thing in Doctor Who, and it shouldn't be copped out so easily.

[pathoftheturtle]

Since you have seen it, Heather, I'm sure you'll remember what we're talking about if I find that picture again.
Um... *flip, flip* ... OK, here it is...


If it's onscreen, it's canon. So if anybody else says that it doesn't seem right to count David Tennant twice, just show them this!

And as long as I'm reposting images, let me show off this collage which I made a few weeks before the premiere of "Day of the Doctor" once again.
I'm still so proud of it because you can see it predicted McGann's return, predicted the appearance of all the former Doctors (with special emphasis on Tom Baker, please notice,) and predicted the attention given to the different looking sonic screwdrivers.