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    It was cool when she died.

    Seriously though, I did like that she stood up for herself (eventually) to Aunt Cord. Cordelia was a despicable character that I enjoyed and loved to hate and it was good when Little Miss finally stood up to her. I can also appreciate her saving Roland and his tet...busting them out of jail. Other than that....she was just plain annoying.

    I really try to like her, I do. I like the idea of a "Roland's past" story, I do, but making that story a high school love story is not what I had in mind. *shrugs*

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    Maybe you will never be able to love her. It's possible my opinion would be very different as well if I hadn't met her at such a young age. You know I was about 13 or less when I read this book.
    But it's good to love and respect her. And the more I read this story the more I like it, thank God.

    Roland would have understood.

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    That may be the reason I like this book the least. It was (finally!) released after I finished high school and the idea of a younger love story was not the type of reading I was looking forward to at that age. I grew up quite a bit in the wait between The Waste Lands and Wizard and Glass...and I admit, I probably grew more cynical.

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    I found Susan a lot more annoying when I read it recently (age 25) then the first time (13).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonteGss View Post
    It was cool when she died.

    Seriously though, I did like that she stood up for herself (eventually) to Aunt Cord. Cordelia was a despicable character that I enjoyed and loved to hate and it was good when Little Miss finally stood up to her. I can also appreciate her saving Roland and his tet...busting them out of jail. Other than that....she was just plain annoying.

    I really try to like her, I do. I like the idea of a "Roland's past" story, I do, but making that story a high school love story is not what I had in mind. *shrugs*
    Now Monte is saying what I'm thinking!
    It'll take a lot more than words and guns,
    A whole lot more than riches and muscle.

    The hands of the many must join as one.
    And together we'll cross the river.

    Puscifer, "The Humbling River"


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    I still wish that the book would have spent just a little more time in Roland's past so we could have touched on the Battle of Jericho. But, seeing as that didn't happen, I'm still hoping that somewhere down the line, A story will be written on the battle and the fall of Gilead

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    Yes, thank goodness we have the comics to cover that story for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonteGss View Post
    Yes, thank goodness we have the comics to cover that story for us.
    Yep, thank goodness

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    Perhaps I should clarify: The book wasn't too long, but it spent too much time on the parts that were emphasized. As I've said before, I wanted to like Susan and that part of Roland's story, much as you might wish to like your best friend's new significant other. I, too, want to know more about Roland and his past. I, too, crave the stories of the Battle of Jericho, the fall of Gilead, the moments of Cuthbert's and Alain's death. But I didn't want a couple of horny teens playing hide the salami.

    *sigh* I need to buy the comics - both the ones already out and the ones coming out. I read them, but I only have the first issue. Since W&G is my least favorite, I was a bit miffed about that being the story told.
    It'll take a lot more than words and guns,
    A whole lot more than riches and muscle.

    The hands of the many must join as one.
    And together we'll cross the river.

    Puscifer, "The Humbling River"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Woofer View Post
    But I didn't want a couple of horny teens playing hide the salami.


    Quote Originally Posted by Woofer View Post
    *sigh* I need to buy the comics - both the ones already out and the ones coming out. I read them, but I only have the first issue. Since W&G is my least favorite, I was a bit miffed about that being the story told.
    W&G is my least favorite too but the comics really are fantastic Woofer. Obviously a lot of the story told in the book was not realized in The Gunslinger Born but the artwork and side stories alone are enough to purchase them. I can't wait to see The Long Road Home!

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    I have dropped a hint to Mr. Woofer re: the comics.
    It'll take a lot more than words and guns,
    A whole lot more than riches and muscle.

    The hands of the many must join as one.
    And together we'll cross the river.

    Puscifer, "The Humbling River"


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    Man, if I had a choice in how long all his Dark Tower books should have been; I would have definitely chose over 5k pages...

    It just gets so sad when you near the end, and you know that you are that much closer to completing the stories...


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    Default Gilead Youth

    I think King could make an entire series chronicling the life and adventures of Roland prior to his beginning in the desert. I really liked the ka-tet with Alains Johns and Cuthbert Allgood.
    Cuthbert is my boy and I'm really interested in finding out more about their youth and the travels that end at Jericho Hill.
    I don't think the book needs to be longer but an off-shoot story about the above mentioned would be great.
    I think it would also be interesting to hear about how the Big Coffin Hunters got kicked out from gunslinging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc_Gamecock View Post
    I think King could make an entire series chronicling the life and adventures of Roland prior to his beginning in the desert. I really liked the ka-tet with Alains Johns and Cuthbert Allgood.
    Cuthbert is my boy and I'm really interested in finding out more about their youth and the travels that end at Jericho Hill.
    I don't think the book needs to be longer but an off-shoot story about the above mentioned would be great.
    I think it would also be interesting to hear about how the Big Coffin Hunters got kicked out from gunslinging.
    The graphic novel series details what happens between when they leave Hambry up to (WOTC spoiler)
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    the events of Jericho Hill
    , you should check them out, they're (for the most part) very well done and more than worth it.
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    It was too short. There are things that I wanted to know that I never got to learn. Things like what happened to the belt Roland's mother gave him (you know the belt I mean). There was a story there, but it was never told. I would have loved to have learned that. I would have liked to know more about the Battle of Jericho Hill and Roland's first ka-tet. Stuff like that is the sort of thing that actually keeps me awake some nights.
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    I thought Wizard and Glass was the best book in the series. The characters and the interaction, the setting, the detail. The fact that the Roland we know was actually once a boy, with friends whom he loved and a lover. I thought it was really great character insight (and all this only fueled by the detail of everything that happens). The impending climax gave me a feeling of some inevitable doom and in the back of my mind I kind of knew what was going to happen but refused to believe it, because I was enthralled.

    I voted it was just the right size, but I certainly wouldn't have minded if it was longer and even more detailed. I would even love it for the happenings in Mejis to be chronicled separately.

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    Default I really disliked this book

    For me W+G was predominantly boring and irrelevant.

    I had no desire to read about his lost love and callow youthfulness.

    I disliked young Roland.

    I liked Alain and Cuthbert, they made reading the back story tolerable.

    Mostly I found it trite and cliched.

    The book was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to long.

    Cut out the mushy stuff and it is a much better length, and far more vibrant and readable.

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    Not that I hated WaG, but it is my least favorite of the series. Upon my first read-through of the series I found this one sort of jarring. I wanted it to end sooner so I could get on with the quest for the tower. It's still my least favorite, but I can certainly appreciate it now.

    What I did like about it was that it explained a lot about Roland's humanity. I think about how I saw Roalnd in the first three books versus Roland in the last three and I see him as much more human suddenly when I get to WotC. I have WaG for turning him from killing machine(), to killing machine with feelings ().


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    This was my favorite of the series, I felt it was an optimum length. And, I enjoyed the commonplace, slow feel of the book. I felt that slow pace of the book was meant to reflect that stage in Rolands life, the only time that he EVER stops to smell the roses....instead of just blindly pursuing the rose.
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    Roland is a completely different character if the W and G story is removed from the series.
    Without this story, Roland is simply a callous, anhedonic, emotionless man in blind pursuit of his goal, while foresaking all that loved him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ste Letto View Post
    For me W+G was predominantly boring and irrelevant.

    I had no desire to read about his lost love and callow youthfulness.

    I disliked young Roland.

    I liked Alain and Cuthbert, they made reading the back story tolerable.

    Mostly I found it trite and cliched.

    The book was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to long.

    Cut out the mushy stuff and it is a much better length, and far more vibrant and readable.
    YES!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BROWNING'S CHILDE View Post
    Roland is a completely different character if the W and G story is removed from the series.
    Without this story, Roland is simply a callous, anhedonic, emotionless man in blind pursuit of his goal, while foresaking all that loved him.
    Look, do you really think so? He strikes me as someone absolutely opposite to your description throughout the series (except the Gunslinger), and I don't even take W&G into consideration (as pointless and irrelevant).

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    Yes, I do.
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    Though, I dont find Roland to fit my description, and I think that the reason he doesnt fit my description is because he shows a little emotion in W and G.
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