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    It does make it special for me.

    I realized what I said was an end of book spoiler so I put on tags and edited your quote for same Matthew.
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    I like that thinking Matt, and I agree with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean View Post
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    it's my least favourite of all the dark tower stories.
    ::sigh of relief::
    I was beginning to think something was deeply wrong with me...
    Nah, I'm with you two. I adore the series, but whenever I re-read it, I always hate reading WaG.

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    I used to feel that way about it, until the series was over. Now it has a very special place in my heart and I can't wait to read the new comic series.
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    I thought it was too short. Thankfully, the parts I thought should have been covered more are now being filled in by the comics.

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    Too short. Each book should have been at least 2,000 pages. This coming from the guy who thinks The Stand was about 10,000 pages too short.

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    Lest we forget the discussion of Steve's version of The Stand in 29 volumes.
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    I think this is my favorite book, because it tells the story of Roland, Alain, Cuthbert and Jamie. It tells about Roland's boyhood, and alot about where he came from. I love the Story of Roland and Susan. I'm interested in Roland's world before it moved on, and I really enjoy all of the stories of Roland's youth.

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    I agree 100%--that is why W&G is now my favorite.
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    I would have liked to have seen MUCH more of how Roland and Susan's relationship evolved.

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    By far the best of all the series, and absolutely not long enough!
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    Spoiler:
    I was disappointed at first with it when I realized it was going to nearly all about their time in Mejis but once I got into it I loved it. Without it we wouldn't know so much about Farson and never heard of the Big Coffin Hunters. The length of the book should be in-material any way as the story it contains is good and with W&G I thought it was brilliant.


    Not sure if spoilers were needed but included them any way.

    I'm amazed by some comments saying they didn't like W&G as the amount of people on the site who say its their fave of the series is pretty high.

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    The flashback scenes needed to be shorter and the tet, present-tense scenes needed to be longer. Overall the length of the book was good though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonteGss View Post
    The flashback scenes needed to be shorter and the tet, present-tense scenes needed to be longer.
    Much shorter and much longer, respectively.

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    Jean has summed up my feelings here very well. I could restate everything he has, but it's like he has taken the words from my head and posted them.

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    WAG is my favorite book in the serise. I enjoyed it all the way through, i think it would have been annoyed me if it was any longer than it was(it was a long book, no?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonteGss View Post
    The flashback scenes needed to be shorter and the tet, present-tense scenes needed to be longer. Overall the length of the book was good though.
    i try not to think of it as a flashback per se, but that the vast majority of the story is simply in Roland's past. i have no issue with the length of it as i think of Hambry/Mejis as the main story and the rest with the new Tet as the continuity blocks which bring it together. i could do with more about the "present" events in the story, sure, but not at the expense of any story about Roland's world as it was. I don't mind that it's a "love" story. It's a gripping story with great characters. There are three other books of "present" after it, so I don't care that it's "too much past"

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    I don't really get it: I knew the whole book was gonna be in flashback before I even picked it up, and I was looking forward to the backstory of the main character. I'm very shocked to see so,e people who think it was all a waste of time.
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    I just don't think any Dark Tower book or related book can be too long. I was upset when I picked up Song of Susannah because I thought it was too short. It all worked out in the end for me because the story got told and Stephen King finally finished it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dud-a-chum? View Post
    I don't really get it: I knew the whole book was gonna be in flashback before I even picked it up, and I was looking forward to the backstory of the main character. I'm very shocked to see so,e people who think it was all a waste of time.
    I don't think anyone has said it was a waste of time, but we have said that we didn't like the way it was executed. Most of the flashback sections were a whole lot of nothing: boy meets girl, boy wants girl, girl wants boy, they do it everywhere and every way. There was way too much of that and too little real character development.

    On the other hand, the parts with Cuthbert and Alain, Sheemie parts, Eldred Jonas and Big Coffin Hunters, and the present tense sections, all rocked.

    Susan is microscopically less annoying each read, but I have yet to move from dislike to like of her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Sphynx_ View Post
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    it's my least favourite of all the dark tower stories.
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    I was beginning to think something was deeply wrong with me...
    Nah, I'm with you two. I adore the series, but whenever I re-read it, I always hate reading WaG.
    I'm the same. I enjoyed the story, I guess. The history lesson was nice. But I really didn't like the artwork, so that just kind of ruined it for me. I know it seems weird to not like the book because of a few images, that's just how I am.

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    Woofer: now it's my turn to second every word you said in your latest post... withouth trying to amend a perfection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woofer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dud-a-chum? View Post
    I don't really get it: I knew the whole book was gonna be in flashback before I even picked it up, and I was looking forward to the backstory of the main character. I'm very shocked to see so,e people who think it was all a waste of time.
    I don't think anyone has said it was a waste of time, but we have said that we didn't like the way it was executed. Most of the flashback sections were a whole lot of nothing: boy meets girl, boy wants girl, girl wants boy, they do it everywhere and every way. There was way too much of that and too little real character development.
    We read different books.
    Okay I know we didn't but the way you talk about it gives me this feeling.
    There is no problem with it. We are different.

    (Real character development? The characters did change so much. Some of them went to hell - for example Cordelia - others found the way to their souls - for example Susan -. That's how I saw it. The character developement amazed me.)

    Roland would have understood.

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    I also agree with Woofer. She said what I feel about the book. I might add that Susan was a terribly annoying character, imo. I really love all the "flashback" scenes involving the first ka-tet and the Big Coffin Hunters but whenever Susan came into the picture, I lost interest.

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    It means you lost the interest quite often, Monte.
    Didn't she do or say anything that was okay to you?

    Roland would have understood.

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