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    Default Why Wolves of the "Calla"?

    And not "Wolves of Thunderclap"? Was King afraid that this title for his book would give too much away? I doubt it. So why choose the title he did? The Wolves didn't come from the Calla, so...? Any ideas?
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    Great topic CK. I can't believe that question has never crossed my mind before.

    As for an answer...hmmm. Could it possibly be a play on words addressing both the real wolves themselves as well as the issues and problems that were present in the Calla?
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    Maybe my answer is stupid but I always took it as a form of "the demons of Calla". They didn't come from Calla and of course the Calla folks didn't own them but they feared them so much and the wolves were a very important part of their life so much that their life belonged to them.
    I hope it makes some sense. It might not be an answer but I always thought of it this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
    Maybe my answer is stupid but I always took it as a form of "the demons of Calla". They didn't come from Calla and of course the Calla folks didn't own them but they feared them so much and the wolves were a very important part of their life so much that their life belonged to them.
    I hope it makes some sense. It might not be an answer but I always thought of it this way.
    it makes sense to me Letti. the wolves are not from the calla, but they are the main problem of the calla folken.

    additionally, the calla is where the tet has to face the wolves so, in a way, to the tet the wolves are the wolves of the calla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All_Hail_The_Crimson_King View Post
    And not "Wolves of Thunderclap"? Was King afraid that this title for his book would give too much away? I doubt it. So why choose the title he did? The Wolves didn't come from the Calla, so...? Any ideas?
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    Just a thought:

    My borderland geography is a little rusty but is thunderclap included in the larger region of the Callas? The story takes place in Bryn Sturgis, but their were in arcs and outer arcs. I don't remember...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erin View Post
    Could it possibly be a play on words addressing both the real wolves themselves as well as the issues and problems that were present in the Calla?
    This is very interesting, it sounds like you're kind of on the same page as Letti here -

    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
    Maybe my answer is stupid but I always took it as a form of "the demons of Calla". They didn't come from Calla and of course the Calla folks didn't own them but they feared them so much and the wolves were a very important part of their life so much that their life belonged to them.
    I hope it makes some sense. It might not be an answer but I always thought of it this way.
    You really need to stop bashing yourself and your opinions Letti. Not only is it NOT stupid, it is sounds right-on to me, the way you put it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by obscurejude View Post
    Just a thought:

    My borderland geography is a little rusty but is thunderclap included in the larger region of the Callas? The story takes place in Bryn Sturgis, but their were in arcs and outer arcs. I don't remember...
    The Calla's are the Borderlands, and they border on Thunderclap which is a part of End-World.
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    Thanks for the clarification CK.

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    I agree with R of G. The wolves go from thunderclap to the calla's to steal the children and then return to thunderclap with them. The Calla is where the gunslingers have to battle the wolves and help the folken of the calla. Therefore the name fits.

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    Actually, that was Letti that came up with that..to give credit where credit is due.
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    Sorry about that. Letti. You are the one I agree with then. I humbly apoliagize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All_Hail_The_Crimson_King View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Erin View Post
    Could it possibly be a play on words addressing both the real wolves themselves as well as the issues and problems that were present in the Calla?
    This is very interesting, it sounds like you're kind of on the same page as Letti here -
    Yep, I think we are on the same page. I almost even used the word "demons" myself. Besides the obvious, the wolves were the demons plaguing the town. When the ka-tet rid the town of the wolves, they also rid the Calla of many of their problems and set things right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mia/susannah View Post
    Sorry about that. Letti. You are the one I agree with then. I humbly apoliagize.
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    If i remember corectly a calla was a town by the river that leads to end world? If not sorry but im a little rust and im due for a re-read.

    Anyway the wolves terrorised towns from all over that are didnt they? all of the callas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ka-tet View Post
    If i remember corectly a calla was a town by the river that leads to end world....
    The Callas were more like territories, or maybe counties, than towns (though Calla Bryn Sturgis does have a village/small Town it it & so might others).

    On the main question - I agree with the general opinion above.
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    Ah i get it now, thankee ^.^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ka-tet View Post
    If i remember corectly a calla was a town by the river that leads to end world? If not sorry but im a little rust and im due for a re-read.

    Anyway the wolves terrorised towns from all over that are didnt they? all of the callas.
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    Oh yeah i got so close to asking my question that i didnt answer the one in the topic well manofwest seems to have got my point xD

    What im saying is that if the wolves terrorised the callas then they are The Wolves Of The Calla, or Callas anyway.
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    i swear i read something about King calling it something else, but it ended up as is. its in one of the wordslinger pages, i set my watch and warrant on it. just not sure which book, cry pardon...

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    Maybe SK just thought that Wolves of the Calla sounded more Westernish than Wolves of Thunderclap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderTheKillingMoon View Post
    i swear i read something about King calling it something else, but it ended up as is. its in one of the wordslinger pages, i set my watch and warrant on it. just not sure which book, cry pardon...
    I believe the going title was something like "The Creeping Shadow" or "The Shadow that Creeps". Just as well he didn't go with that one I reckon. It's a cool sounding name but a bit too vague for the contents of the book. I.e. The Crimson King is gathering his forces throughout the books in the background, and his 'shadow' stretches far. The collection of the kids is all part of that, as is what is happening to Susannah, but it's fitting that the name be tailored to specific events.

    As for the name "Wolves of the Calla", I reasoned the same as Letti. I like the idea that 'wolves' can refer to more than just the big guys from Thunderclap though. The fear gripping the town, for example, and of course that wolf wrapped in a lovely Susannah package... Mia. (Not that I'd count Suze as a sheep, and she's still in control most of the time.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brainslinger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by UnderTheKillingMoon View Post
    i swear i read something about King calling it something else, but it ended up as is. its in one of the wordslinger pages, i set my watch and warrant on it. just not sure which book, cry pardon...
    I believe the going title was something like "The Creeping Shadow" or "The Shadow that Creeps". Just as well he didn't go with that one I reckon. It's a cool sounding name but a bit too vague for the contents of the book. I.e. The Crimson King is gathering his forces throughout the books in the background, and his 'shadow' stretches far. The collection of the kids is all part of that, as is what is happening to Susannah, but it's fitting that the name be tailored to specific events.
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    I think it's all a matter of perspective. The title seems aptly chosen from the perspective of the Calla folken. I don't think Thunderclap (the defenition) means much to them. They live in their own secluded little world. A lot of people have had their sibling/child taken away from them so it affected a lot of people, so much that the Wolves were always a lurking danger in their mind (think about the people fearing the news Andy might bring).

    I think the title of the book is spot on.
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    The way I saw it after I read it was that there was a double meaning. First you have the wolves that are plaguing the calla. The calla folken end up fighting them in the calla itself, thus Wolves of the Calla. The second meaning, and real meaning as I took it, also has to do with the fighting. Rather than referring to the wolves, I think it refers to the ka-tet. Roland and his ka-tet took the calla folken and led them to resist the wolves and in doing so were wolves themselves, devouring the cybernetic wolves as well as wolves devour sheep. Roland and his ka-tet were the "Wolves of the Calla". It's just my take on it, but there it is.
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