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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian861 View Post
    I watched Genysis for the first time the other day and didn't think it was too bad. I dismissed it from Terminator canon and just had fun with it.
    Yup, those were pretty much my feelings as well.
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    Still interested in this.
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    Just booked our tickets. Hoping for it to be good


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    It looks okay. Iím intrigued rather than excited. But that counts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunchback Jack View Post
    It looks okay. Iím intrigued rather than excited. But that counts.
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    I'm skipping Dark Fart like I skipped Genysis. Instead of looking like a return to form it looks they're trying to hard to return to form much like Genysis looked like it was trying too hard for nostalgia. It's going to be much harder to take Hamilton seriously as a badass compared to say Jamie Lee Curtis in Halloween because this one is sure to be more over the top. Hamilton's age really shows in the trailer and I'm just not buying it.

    Seems the only things these films offer in terms of creativity are new terminators and they all end up being some variation of the T1000 that just becomes silly. Geriatric action stars don't interest me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattrick View Post
    I'm skipping Dark Fart like I skipped Genysis. Instead of looking like a return to form it looks they're trying to hard to return to form much like Genysis looked like it was trying too hard for nostalgia. It's going to be much harder to take Hamilton seriously as a badass compared to say Jamie Lee Curtis in Halloween because this one is sure to be more over the top. Hamilton's age really shows in the trailer and I'm just not buying it.

    Seems the only things these films offer in terms of creativity are new terminators and they all end up being some variation of the T1000 that just becomes silly. Geriatric action stars don't interest me.
    I agree she hasn't aged well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattrick View Post
    I'm skipping Dark Fart like I skipped Genysis. Instead of looking like a return to form it looks they're trying to hard to return to form much like Genysis looked like it was trying too hard for nostalgia. It's going to be much harder to take Hamilton seriously as a badass compared to say Jamie Lee Curtis in Halloween because this one is sure to be more over the top. Hamilton's age really shows in the trailer and I'm just not buying it.

    Seems the only things these films offer in terms of creativity are new terminators and they all end up being some variation of the T1000 that just becomes silly. Geriatric action stars don't interest me.
    Genisys wasnít terrible. Well, okay, it was terrible, but it was silly-but-fun-terrible, not lame-terrible or depressing-terrible. Iím disappointed they didnít do any sequels to it because it had potential. Not enough potential for me to consider it canon, but enough to appreciate it as a variation on a theme.

    Dark Fate looks like itís going to be T2 again, which I think is less interesting, but Iím curious as to what they will do story-wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunchback Jack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mattrick View Post
    I'm skipping Dark Fart like I skipped Genysis. Instead of looking like a return to form it looks they're trying to hard to return to form much like Genysis looked like it was trying too hard for nostalgia. It's going to be much harder to take Hamilton seriously as a badass compared to say Jamie Lee Curtis in Halloween because this one is sure to be more over the top. Hamilton's age really shows in the trailer and I'm just not buying it.

    Seems the only things these films offer in terms of creativity are new terminators and they all end up being some variation of the T1000 that just becomes silly. Geriatric action stars don't interest me.
    Genisys wasnít terrible. Well, okay, it was terrible, but it was silly-but-fun-terrible, not lame-terrible or depressing-terrible. Iím disappointed they didnít do any sequels to it because it had potential. Not enough potential for me to consider it canon, but enough to appreciate it as a variation on a theme.

    Dark Fate looks like itís going to be T2 again, which I think is less interesting, but Iím curious as to what they will do story-wise.
    They completely fucked with the timeline and stomped all over John Connor's legacy. Fuck that film.

    On a side note, I went to the movies on Saturday and the employees were putting together one of those large cardboard displays for the new Terminator movie. It was so complicated that they abandoned it halfway through.

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    Fun fact: I was once considering signing up to go into theaters to set up those large, complicated cardboard displays but once I saw the hours required and how the pay was, I decided against it. I think it would be cool to do a couple, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Servant View Post
    They completely fucked with the timeline and stomped all over John Connor's legacy. Fuck that film.
    As soon as any franchise basically undoes previous installments through time travel, it ceases to become canon, in my opinion. (I'm looking at you, Star Trek 2009). But it can still be fun.

    (Back to the Future is the rare case where a sequel went back to the same place/time as the original, but *didn't* undo the events of the first film. BTTF is, therefore, one of the best time travel series in cinematic history)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky View Post
    Fun fact: I was once considering signing up to go into theaters to set up those large, complicated cardboard displays but once I saw the hours required and how the pay was, I decided against it. I think it would be cool to do a couple, though.
    I didn't realize they hired out for that stuff. It would be pretty fun though. My theater had a marketing company a few years ago that was coming in to do advanced screenings. I looked into working for them, but nothing came of it.

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    They completely fucked with the timeline and stomped all over John Connor's legacy. Fuck that film.
    As soon as any franchise basically undoes previous installments through time travel, it ceases to become canon, in my opinion. (I'm looking at you, Star Trek 2009). But it can still be fun.

    (Back to the Future is the rare case where a sequel went back to the same place/time as the original, but *didn't* undo the events of the first film. BTTF is, therefore, one of the best time travel series in cinematic history)

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    Back to the Future is the film that literally set up the movie rules for time travel that almost every time travel film since then seems to have to adhere to. There was a movie recently that mentioned that, but I can't remember which one it was. It might have been Endgame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Servant View Post
    I didn't realize they hired out for that stuff. It would be pretty fun though. My theater had a marketing company a few years ago that was coming in to do advanced screenings. I looked into working for them, but nothing came of it.
    Yeah, I can't remember the name of the company but you get paid per job/project. Each of them was based on number of hours required (some, I remember, were hours to put together one display).

    Do you mean marketing, like actually doing the marketing for the screenings? Or the Men In Black that stand in the theater with night-vision goggles making sure no one is filming?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunchback Jack View Post
    Dark Fate looks like itís going to be T2 again, which I think is less interesting, but Iím curious as to what they will do story-wise.
    No film could ever be T2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fernandito View Post
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    Dark Fate looks like itís going to be T2 again, which I think is less interesting, but Iím curious as to what they will do story-wise.
    No film could ever be T2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fernandito View Post
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    Dark Fate looks like itís going to be T2 again, which I think is less interesting, but Iím curious as to what they will do story-wise.
    No film could ever be T2.
    I think you know what I mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky View Post
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    I didn't realize they hired out for that stuff. It would be pretty fun though. My theater had a marketing company a few years ago that was coming in to do advanced screenings. I looked into working for them, but nothing came of it.
    Yeah, I can't remember the name of the company but you get paid per job/project. Each of them was based on number of hours required (some, I remember, were hours to put together one display).

    Do you mean marketing, like actually doing the marketing for the screenings? Or the Men In Black that stand in the theater with night-vision goggles making sure no one is filming?
    Nah, I mean an actual marketing company that holds the screenings. Although fucking with bootleggers would be kind of fun too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunchback Jack View Post
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    Dark Fate looks like itís going to be T2 again, which I think is less interesting, but Iím curious as to what they will do story-wise.
    No film could ever be T2.
    I think you know what I mean.

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    Reviews seem to be VERY good. Most seem to think it is T2 done over BUT who cares? LoL
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    At this point I'm just praying for a good film in the Terminator universe. I rewatched Salvation a few months ago and I just could not believe how unbelievably bland it was. No wonder Christian Bale lost his mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fernandito View Post
    At this point I'm just praying for a good film in the Terminator universe. I rewatched Salvation a few months ago and I just could not believe how unbelievably bland it was. No wonder Christian Bale lost his mind.
    lol I read that Cameron plans to direct one of the three films he has planned. THAT IS THE ONE I am most pumped for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
    Reviews seem to be VERY good. Most seem to think it is T2 done over BUT who cares? LoL
    Me. That would just prove the series has no where to go except retreading the same ground, which Genysis already did. And Rise of the Machines did. Some concepts are just limited. Terminator seems to be one, along with Alien.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattrick View Post
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    Reviews seem to be VERY good. Most seem to think it is T2 done over BUT who cares? LoL
    Me. That would just prove the series has no where to go except retreading the same ground, which Genysis already did. And Rise of the Machines did. Some concepts are just limited. Terminator seems to be one, along with Alien.
    Sigh.. you only like one thing man. Negan. I will give this a go and if some of it feels remade? SO be it. I enjoy the theater and I enjoy Terminators. I also think with Cameron back involved... we could get the next movie to be as good as T2 was.
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    I think it is a bit challenging to do something new in the universe. Terminator movies are pretty much defined by the plot of sending a soldier back in time to stop a cyborg from killing someone. They tried to do something different in Salvation but it just felt like a generic future dystopia movie, rather than something tightly linked to the franchise.

    I think the only way you could do something different is to use that basic premise as the first act of a longer story. For example, use time travel to pull people from the present into the future to fight there. Have the fate of both present and future at stake.

    Having said all that, Iím looking forward to seeing Dark Fate.
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