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    Isn't it weird how Roland can say "ka" and "khef" but can't pronounce Keflex?

    I could buy that the "x" might throw him off, but he calls it cheeflet or cheflet (something along that line), like he can't make the "k" sound...

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    Yeah, I didn't really buy Roland's pronunciation problems considering he is multilingual. Then again I didn't really buy the idea that he only sees dots on TV screens either, (someone from a different time period like the middle ages in our world probably wouldn't have trouble seeing a picture, it's not the tech it's biology of the brain interpreting it, which would be the same) but that's another topic.

    From Drawing of the Three, it seemed clear to me that the Low Speech is very similar to English. I remember Roland thinking that he had a bit of trouble understanding what was said but it wasn't that different, more a diallect difference. He also thought that if he was there in the flesh he wouldn't have any difficulty at all, like his mind automatically interprets when travelling to a different world.

    High speech though is completely different. I tend to think of it like Latin too, except a bit more widely used among the upper classes. So basically I think the low speech is like a diallect of English (although they don't have any concept of 'English' of course) with some words of High Speech included.

    I think that's right...

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    I'm still curious what language Roland spoke with Calvin Tower, it was never explained. Is that how the High Speech sounds in our world?

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    firs off, i was about to make an innapropriate comment about drunks and drug addicts, but this doesn't seem like the right time. so think of it as this:

    how do other languages emerge. isolationism. mixture of culture and language. religion. etc. now every (almost) religion is based off latin. so you will find some words in german, french, english...they sound the same, and usually mean about the same. so imagine that for some reason, a part of america gets broken off and isolated. in a few hundred or a thousand years, probably less, this language will have changed, but not so much that it sounds TOO different from english. think maybe...anglisch. now eventually one of those languages must become dominant. so which one? since the high speech isn't exactly english, we can assume it's that. english dies out, and is replaced by a smaller language. perhaps german. or maybe english almost completely dies out, and before a rise to imperialism, people begin using it to plan. so when they take over, english is revived (obviously some changes would have been made, accidental or on purpose) but since german is now dominant, only a few people close to the ruler who used it would know it. thus higher class people would use it, thus the high speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brainslinger View Post
    High speech though is completely different. I tend to think of it like Latin too, except a bit more widely used among the upper classes. So basically I think the low speech is like a diallect of English (although they don't have any concept of 'English' of course) with some words of High Speech included.
    So High Speech is a totally different language, not a dialect - is that what you're saying? If so, I agree completely.


    Quote Originally Posted by Brainslinger View Post
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    I'm still curious what language Roland spoke with Calvin Tower, it was never explained. Is that how the High Speech sounds in our world?
    Ah, an excellent question. When I just did my re-read I marked that page but didn't write about it here because I wasn't sure what to make of it...
    That's a really interesting idea...
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    At the same time though, don't they use words from the high speech like ka, ka-tet, khef and such in our world and they make sense? Is this only because they're so familiar?

    Good questions Brainslinger...


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    Boy howdy thats a lot of repetitive posts!
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    Wow, Sj! You must have really liked what you had to say here to have said it seven times.
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    That has gotta be the first septuple post I've seen.
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    Yeah, its a first for me also.
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    Awwwwwwwww the more of you the merrier!
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    Okay nevermind.
    I'm going to leave them.
    It's fuckin' hilarous.


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    Oops. I deleted one before I saw you wanted to keep them. Lo siento. Now it's only on there 6 times.
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    Yes, it is.

    And I'm sorry Matthew and I interrupted you posting the same post some more.
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    Hahaha, it's no big deal.
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    19 repeat posts should do!
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    Default The Great Letters

    Am I the only one who thinks/realizes that the "Great Letters" are all caps?
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    I don't think so. I think there are some letters we don't have or there are some differences. Like High Speech is very similar to English (but they are not the same) that's how the Great Letters are similar to our letters but there must be differences.

    Roland would have understood.

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    I alway thought the HIGH SPEECH was either with i slight Britsih accent (i know wthats wierd) or some other all together because when roland talks to the slow mutant, i think on the way to see S.K., he talks in the high speech and eddie cant understand it

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    I thought of it as similar to sindarin-elven... though I had no indication that it was
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    Quote Originally Posted by flaggwalkstheline View Post
    I thought of it as similar to sindarin-elven... though I had no indication that it was
    But Sindarin was the most common of the Elvish languages, spoken by the Teleri. If I were to compare the High Speech to any of the Elvish tongues it would likely be Quenya.

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    I dont know much about elveish, none actually, but elvish was another i tought of. Maybe even Latin or some for mof it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by R_of_G View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by flaggwalkstheline View Post
    I thought of it as similar to sindarin-elven... though I had no indication that it was
    But Sindarin was the most common of the Elvish languages, spoken by the Teleri. If I were to compare the High Speech to any of the Elvish tongues it would likely be Quenya.
    true, though sindarin is still pretty exotic when compared to the common westenra english
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