It is as likely as any other explaination.
My actual explaination as to why women are called sluts has more to do with religious control. The best way to make people avoid premarital sex is to convince women that they are worthless sluts if they engage in it.
The video makes some pretty valid points, though. I mean, it is standup comedy, but I think what he says has at least some merit.
There's one hole in every revolution, large or small. And it's one word long.. people. No matter how big the idea they all stand under, people are small and weak and cheap and frightened. It's people that kill every revolution.
Do you suppose, that maybe it's other women who are the genisis for women being called sluts? Maybe because if pussy was free and easy, men would be unwilling to commit to any form of relationship, and would probably not stay faithful in that relationship? See I don't see men having an issue with women acting like "sluts". We get what we're looking for out of the deal without having to give anything up for it. I think it's women who are most responsible for it. [/sarcasm But I know that it's always the "evil corporation" and the "evil capalistic society" that are the root of all ills. /sarcasm]
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Watch the video.
There's one hole in every revolution, large or small. And it's one word long.. people. No matter how big the idea they all stand under, people are small and weak and cheap and frightened. It's people that kill every revolution.
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Did he also tell you about his magical flying bunny?
Not true in general I'm afraid. I've had a guy get really stressy with me because I slept with him one weekend and with someone else the next. His underlying opinion seemed to be "Its ok for me to want to have casual sex with you and to not have to call you/arrange to see you again - but you can't do that to me!"
Ahh, I miss my free and single days sometimes
I think Lisa's "milk for free" idea is probably closest.
Seriously... for a man, why would there be a reason to commit if he could fuck whatever he wanted. Now or ever?
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Because unless his Mum allowed him to live at home forever, who would cook his meals and wash his clothes?
I bet we would have evolved into doing that for ourselves by now.
I already have
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We'll see what we can do about this at the Gathering.
Ahh, I miss my free and single days sometimes
Wahey!!!!
Matt, you self sufficient men are a minority
Growing up, one of my chores was to split the wood (we heated with a wood stove) and to get up at night and keep the wood stove well stoked with fuel. I also did the laundry sometimes and a lot of other things. I was raised to be pretty damn self-sufficient.
"It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.
"When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah
Meaning if there isn't a woman around you can take matters into your own hands
Hell yeah!
The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket
Yeah.
"It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.
"When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah
I would just like you to think back to every locker room conversation you've ever had and then honestly tell me it's women who call other women sluts.
Just sayin'.
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It's funny, because Doug Stanhope was just on O&A earlier today.
I'm still trying to decipher Matt's "seed" argument. Are you saying that the perceived double standard reflects different evolutionary imperatives, i.e. women need to find one suitable partner who can rear their offspring while men can impregnate as many women as they choose?
I think its possible for sure. The nature of the act kind of invokes that kind of feeling and it was necessary for our species to one...have women that could and would choose the best (smartest)
And that men could impregnate more than one woman at a time and that was also a good thing.
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I also wonder whether this notion that its "acceptable" for men to sleep around stems from very ancient times.
There was alot more import then placed on men carrying on their family line by having a son - so as Matt says it was almost the imperative for a man (at least, those of noble birth) to impregnate many women if his wife wasn't producing male offspring.
Also, you know its not that long ago that the suffragettes furthered women's rights, I think where sex was concerned in history, women were seen as more of a commodity than actual people entitled to their own choices.
Women have not long been in a position in society where they have been free to choose their own partner, partners or perhaps no partner at all - so I think old stereotypes are still around in society's cultural memory and it begats such opinions as we're discussing here.
i wouldn't want a guy who makes a commitment just because he's getting laid.
Its nice to hear a woman say that. Sex can and should be a physical manifestation of what is transpiring inwardly. Its always better if you hold out and are actually in love with someone. I'd much rather connect with someone in other ways first. Whenever I ask someone out, I've already went through an intense debate within myself as to whether she is capable of providing something beyond the physical. Most people my age seem to want to fuck and then build a relationship around that. I think thats unfortunate. I know I'm part of the minority.i wouldn't want a guy who makes a commitment just because he's getting laid.
I think pornbot's losing face on this one, but my husband is the only one I've ever been with. And he's the only one I ever wanted that way.... besides David Duchovny... :sighs:
But as for when we had sex, I waited until he told me he wanted to spend the rest of his life with me, shortly before we moved in together, and that was three months after we got together. I said I was going to wait for marriage but with how complicated everything was, I figured we might never get married but if I was living the rest of my life with him it wouldn't matter about that technicality.
I waited for the man I wanted to spend the rest of my life with. Before that, I thought I was frigid because I didn't even want to try to do anything but make out with anyone else.
As far as people who don't feel that way, I think you should wait six months, get the person and you tested, and then feel free to have sex. THINK OF THE STDS!!!!!!! 1/3 people has herpes, and 1/2 the people 26 or younger have an STD. YUCKO!!!! And that's just in America!
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I don't think abstaining from sex until you're "sure they're the right one" makes any difference in the long term, because what generally tends to decide whether your relationship lasts is how you interact on the whole...not how long you waited or didn't wait until you had sex.
However, in the two long term relationships I've had (which includes my marriage), we didn't sleep together for a couple of months at first. It wasn't a spoken agreement, there just seemed to be an understanding on a different level that this was something that could last and could be taken at a different pace.
I think its all based on the individuals involved. If it feels right, I think both sexes out to be allowed to do it without a stigma.
For us, it was like magic. We met one night at the company Christmas party, both very lonely... and did it
I know there are huge emotional aspects to sex but I've always been the type that doesn't lay very much on it personally. Sex is the amazing topping on our already wonderful cake I guess.
However, I can count the number of different women I've been with on one hand.
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I can't offer a lot of advice on this one, since I've only been with my husband (gasp). We dated for a while before sleeping together, but we were pretty young at the time. I think the time you wait just depends on the people involved. I like to say that it's better to wait until you really care about someone, or "trust" them almost. Otherwise, it seems like it may be a waste. Of course, if I was single now, I'm sure I wouldn't wait as long. I'd probably be a slut.
Hell, there's days when I wish I was now.
If I was single now I wouldn't even touch the guy until I knew he didn't have a std... We'd get tested together if it made him feel any better even though I've only been with Wally.. But he would be tested.. Oh yes...
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