That's utterly stupid - how eBay can "legally" do that is unbelievable. They sure are quick to slap bad buyers with more penalties when they pull stunts like this.
That's utterly stupid - how eBay can "legally" do that is unbelievable. They sure are quick to slap bad buyers with more penalties when they pull stunts like this.
A deal culminated on eBay constitutes a contract. A contract can be enforced in civil court.
As the buyer I would have asked the seller to come to a reasonable solution. I can understand that the price wasn't even close to a fair market price and would have been willing to sweeten the pot to conclude the transaction. If the seller refused I would probably have threatened a civil lawsuit in my County Court for Breach of Contract. If the threat didn't work I would seriously consider actually filing the suit.
I would definitely have left negative feedback failing a resolution.
I messaged the buyer about it. I'll post any reply.
Originally Posted by tippy4
What an extremely low class thing to do.
I am glad someone notified them of their mistake. It is the right thing to do. Morally, I would not be able to bid or buy that without notifying the seller that they might want to do more research, if the seller didn't know it could possibly be worth a lot more. I am all for a bargain, especially with a motivated seller, but that is a huge mistake!What an extremely low class thing to do.
They always say "buyer beware" maybe the seller should have done his homework before listing it. Once its sold it is a done deal!
The seller screwed up, that's what it comes down to. It's up to the seller to do research when pricing an item, and the buyers responsibility to know whether they're getting a good value. But, no matter what, once it's sold, it's a done deal. The seller had no right to back out of the sale.
I agree.
John
A deal is a deal. The seller was obviously originally happy to sell the book for that price, and its very poor form to pull out.
I'd be really pissed if someone here screwed me out of a deal like that.
nobody here would offer you a deal like that, unless they desperately needed money! would you buy a car from an old lady for $500 if you knew it was worth thousands? and she was selling her husbands car?
if my nephew tried to sell my collection here, after i go senile, are you going to take advantage of him, because he doesn't know better?
wouldn't you like someone to be honest and say - Hey! You should check out what you have there, before you sell?
thats all i am saying.
"Before you sell" being the important part of that sentence. Not, "oh you sold it too cheap so pull out of the deal"wouldn't you like someone to be honest and say - Hey! You should check out what you have there, before you sell?
Buyer and seller beware. I've been burned before and consider it part of the fun.
Yes, BEFORE it was sold. If you as the seller, don't do the research into what your selling and sell it for less then its worth thats on you. You can't just back out on a sale, especially after its been paid for.nobody here would offer you a deal like that, unless they desperately needed money! would you buy a car from an old lady for $500 if you knew it was worth thousands? and she was selling her husbands car?
if my nephew tried to sell my collection here, after i go senile, are you going to take advantage of him, because he doesn't know better?
wouldn't you like someone to be honest and say - Hey! You should check out what you have there, before you sell?
thats all i am saying.
It's low class for someone, whether a member of this forum or not, to "alert" an e-Bay seller that he/she could have gotten more money, after a deal was made. The contract is between those two parties, NOT a third person who happens to not like the deal someone else got and decides to meddle. Reeks of sour grapes to me.
Right. So delete the BS eBay sellers thread then. Buyer beware, right? They should do their research and who are we to meddle?
I am certainly in line with the majority here - a sale is a sale. When dealing with ebay, it's understood that buyers and sellers need to do their research. Whomever alerted the seller was a jerk!
I wholly disagree. No need to delete the thread - the thread is an important part of the research process. Alerting someone once a deal has been consummated is an entirely different ethical dilemma.
Brennan's buyer's have been notified AFTER the auctions have ended. (Can't notify the buyer while the auction is still live. Hardy har har.)
Edit: I hope you didn't really think I was suggesting we delete that thread.
PHEW! Sometimes I am very literal!
There's a difference between alerting a buyer that the item she/he has won is a fake and telling the seller that he/she had underpriced an item.
John
You say "that is a huge mistake". Please explain that comment because Something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay for it. What price is fair? $50 $60 $100 $1 $200 $1000 $20 Who sets the price? Wouldn't it be the seller No matter if it's a car, boat, bike, book, sex, or coat?I am glad someone notified them of their mistake. It is the right thing to do. Morally, I would not be able to bid or buy that without notifying the seller that they might want to do more research, if the seller didn't know it could possibly be worth a lot more. I am all for a bargain, especially with a motivated seller, but that is a huge mistake!What an extremely low class thing to do.
Mulleins
brennan was committing felonious frauds. I don't see an analogy.
We have a whole thread dedicated to "that great deal". Guess some here think that is a morally deficient thread and all that post in it are ripping off little old ladies of their pensions on the side.
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LOLGuess some here think that is a morally deficient thread and all that post in it are ripping off little old ladies of their pensions on the side.
Did anybody else picture her with curly grey hair, silver horn-rimmed glasses and a flowered purse held in white-gloved hands?
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This is a pretty funny situation - I like it because there are two moral sides without a clear answer.
First - the civil suit idea, while satisfying to consider, is a non-starter. Your only 'damage' is the $15 dollars you didn't get to spend. I suppose a lawyer could come up with something, but then you're paying a lawyer.
Second - it's scummy to back out of a deal like that...but...if you realize you've left $200 on the table, what choice do you have? It's one thing to do the right thing, but it's another thing to lose the money AND basically hand someone $200 for your screwup. So I don't know what I'd do if I was in that situation. I'd be pissed at myself, but I'm not sure I'd take the moral high ground and send the book out.
Third - the busybody gadfly who tipped him off (if they came from here) has way too much time on their hands. If you're whining because somebody made a mistake, then write a check for $200 and mail it to the seller and soothe your conscience that way. Otherwise, mind your own business.
Fourth - Years ago, I saw a New Lt's Rap for sale for an obscenely low price (ob-scene)...to the point where I felt bad for the seller. I also suspected he'd get other offers for the same price - so I offered $100 more than the asking price and explained that he'd low-balled himself a little bit. I also did this to high-ball anybody else who was emailing him. Turned out, I WAS competing with other would-be buyers, but because I offered more (still much too little...I still feel bad.), I got the book.
Point is - low-balls are fine and all if you can get away with them, but it goes both ways. You can't be totally greedy.
If you're basically taking advantage of someone who's made a big mistake on a price, you can't complain that much when they decide not to honor it. Yeah, a "contract's a contract" but you can't be that moral when you're trying to profit off a mistake....if you get away, good for you, but don't cry when it doesn't pan out.
The analogy was that the buyer commited to it already, paid and received the item and was actually happy with it. Brennan's buyer actually came on here for a brief visit, told us we were all wrong and his signature was legit. He then never posted again.brennan was committing felonious frauds. I don't see an analogy.
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