Intriguing Stephen King/King Related/Dark Tower Auctions-Sales

[Randall Flagg]

I think the only etiquette would be if you and someone(s) you knew were "friends", and all bidding on or interested in an item, it would be OK to assist one another so that the item wasn't bid up. This could only occur between individuals willing to be honest amongst one another.

[Sam]

Very true Randall. Very true.

[Hutch]

all you have to do to win this signed 1st edition / 17th printing Cujo is outbid the current $310 bid.... unless the current high bidder has a higher maximum or someone else outbids you. Better hurry only 3 hours left at the time of this post.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-SIG...QQcmdZViewItem

[Room 217 Caretaker]

all you have to do to win this signed 1st edition / 17th printing Cujo is outbid the current $310 bid.... unless the current high bidder has a higher maximum or someone else outbids you. Better hurry only 3 hours left at the time of this post.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-SIG...QQcmdZViewItem

Hutch,

Don't you mean "unless the current SHILL bidder has a higher maximum"

Will bidder 6***6 please reveal yourself

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[Patrick]

Wow, up to $355 for a 17th printing? And still another hour and a half to go.

[Randall Flagg]

Not only a 17th printing, but the signature looks like recent King, not how his signature was back in the 80's.

[jhanic]

Just remember who the seller is.

John

[Randall Flagg]

Just remember who the seller is.

John

Enough said.

[Hutch]

the description and images look pretty straight forward to me ... I gotta blame the bidder on this one. I don't see anyone is twisting their arm, making them bid. Even if there is a shill bidder to raise the price and I'm not saying there is... there is a bidder out there who has no idea what they are doing.

[Rahfa]

I don't think it's a fake signature...just not worth that bid.

[Sam]

There's a sucker born every minute guys. Before I knew what I was doing, I paid $80 for a 1st edition of Cujo.

[Randall Flagg]

Collector's Lot (Starts @ $39.99)

Great batch of Stephen King collectibles for the discerning collector. Includes:
TV Guide April 26 1997 featuring The Shining
The Twilight Zone Magazine June 1983 featuring The Raft
Rock Bottom Remainders (King's Band) playbill from the Hollywood Palladium 5/29/94
Mid Life Confidential - a phony magazine about the Rock Bottom Remainders with lots of pictures of King and other authors in performance (1994)
The New Yorker April 16 1990 featuring a massive King interview. (not pictured)
All sealed in plastic - all nearly perfect.
I'll even throw in a brand new (read once by me) copy of the newest King hardcover Just After Sunset (my wife won't let me keep any more books)

[super sam]

Is it authorized by King or is this a possible copyright violation?

It's a parody, so it's probably covered under fair use, but it wouldn't be a King violation in any case. King never wrote "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy." That line exists only in the movie.

What did Jack Torrance write in the book The shining?

[Randall Flagg]

Stephen King The Dead Zone 1979 1st Edition Autographed


Interesting, great inscription and memorabilia, but a Book Club edition, not a first edition.

[Fsmdr]

Stephen King The Dead Zone 1979 1st Edition Autographed


Interesting, great inscription and memorabilia, but a Book Club edition, not a first edition.

Why do you say it's a Book Club edition?. Besides the price clipped DJ, I can't see any indication.

[Randall Flagg]

Why do you say it's a Book Club edition?. Besides the price clipped DJ, I can't see any indication.

Good point. With a new DJ it would in effect be a 1st edition.

[jhanic]

I copied and saved the following regarding identifying the Dead Zone first edition vs. the Book Club edition back in September 2006. I WISH I had noted from where and whom I copied it. My sincerest apologies to whomever first penned this!

Viking moved in the early 80's. Not sure exactly when, but it was between the publishing of Different Seasons and Christine, so either 1982 or 1983. The earlier address was 625 Madison Avenue, they moved to 40 West 23rd Street (both in N.Y). This is of crucial importance because most of the books published around that date are fairly hard to identify as firsts.

So how do you identify, say, a first edition of The Dead Zone? We'll look at the book and the DJ separately. First, the book. First Published in 1979 by The Viking Press is useless, they all say it. Absence of a number line? Usefull in differentiating between a 1st printing and a later printing, but useless in differentiating between a BCE and a 1st printing, because neither has number lines. What about size, you say. Some King BCE's are virtually the exact same size as the 1st editions. (The Dead Zone is one of these, It is another, not sure about others but unless you know for SURE that they NEVER made a BCE that size (and how can you really be sure?), then size wont help either (not all the time anyway). What's left? Quarter bound in black cloth with black boards? They're all like that. So now what's left? According to all the FAQ's I've seen, nothing. So there is NO surefire way to identify The Dead Zone as a first edition.

So basically people are identifying the dust jacket, not the book itself. Well, that's fine, right? If you've got a first edition DJ then it must be a first edition book, why the hell would someone put a first edition DJ on a book club? Where'd the first edition book go? DJ's almost always show wear before the book itself, so if you've got a real nice 1st edition DJ it'd be silly to think it contained a BCE book, right? The other way might happen, a First edition book with a shredded or absent DJ might have a BCE DJ, but you'd avoid that anyway assuming the book was also BCE.

Here's the problem. Later printing DJ's are, in at least some cases, identical to first edition DJ's. Christine is one of em, I own a 1st edition and a 3rd edition and the DJ's are completely identical. Date code is the same, price is the same, ISBN is the same, they're completely identical. The Dead Zone is the same way, at least up to the 6th printing (IIRC). So if you can't tell the difference between a 1st printing DJ and a 5th printing DJ, and you can't tell the difference between a BCE book and first edition book, then couldn't your "verified" first edition be a BCE with a later printing DJ? It sure as hell could, and I've seen several copies of the The Dead Zone in just such a manner sell for 75 dollars and up on eBay (as much as a real first edition, in other words. It's not like seeing a BCE Carrie sell for 75 dollars).

So here's where the little tidbit about Viking moving comes in. All the book clubs I've seen that are the correct size were printed AFTER 1983. The Dead Zone was, of course, printed in 1979. Which means the addresses should be different, and they are. The BCE's have the 40 West 23rd Street address, the real Firsts have the 625 Madison Avenue address. The nice thing here is that Viking printed the address on the CP AND the DJ. The later printings were still at 625 Madison, so when you see a BCE with a later printing DJ, not only is the address on the CP wrong, but the address on the CP and the DJ don't match.

Now, this doesn't mean that there couldn't be some BCE's out there that are the correct size printed before 1983. In which case I don't know what to tell ya.

John

[Bev Vincent]

Is it authorized by King or is this a possible copyright violation?

It's a parody, so it's probably covered under fair use, but it wouldn't be a King violation in any case. King never wrote "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy." That line exists only in the movie.

What did Jack Torrance write in the book The shining?

He was working on a play, The Little School. When he discovered all the historical documents in the basement of the hotel, he gave up the play, intending to write the hotel's history.

[bast_imret]

That info seems to indicate that it's not a BCE. Both the CP and the DJ have the madison ave address, and it's inscribed in 1979, when first published.

[Fsmdr]

I copied and saved the following regarding identifying the Dead Zone first edition vs. the Book Club edition back in September 2006. I WISH I had noted from where and whom I copied it. My sincerest apologies to whomever first penned this!

Viking moved in the early 80's. Not sure exactly when, but it was between the publishing of Different Seasons and Christine, so either 1982 or 1983. The earlier address was 625 Madison Avenue, they moved to 40 West 23rd Street (both in N.Y). This is of crucial importance because most of the books published around that date are fairly hard to identify as firsts.

So how do you identify, say, a first edition of The Dead Zone? We'll look at the book and the DJ separately. First, the book. First Published in 1979 by The Viking Press is useless, they all say it. Absence of a number line? Usefull in differentiating between a 1st printing and a later printing, but useless in differentiating between a BCE and a 1st printing, because neither has number lines. What about size, you say. Some King BCE's are virtually the exact same size as the 1st editions. (The Dead Zone is one of these, It is another, not sure about others but unless you know for SURE that they NEVER made a BCE that size (and how can you really be sure?), then size wont help either (not all the time anyway). What's left? Quarter bound in black cloth with black boards? They're all like that. So now what's left? According to all the FAQ's I've seen, nothing. So there is NO surefire way to identify The Dead Zone as a first edition.

So basically people are identifying the dust jacket, not the book itself. Well, that's fine, right? If you've got a first edition DJ then it must be a first edition book, why the hell would someone put a first edition DJ on a book club? Where'd the first edition book go? DJ's almost always show wear before the book itself, so if you've got a real nice 1st edition DJ it'd be silly to think it contained a BCE book, right? The other way might happen, a First edition book with a shredded or absent DJ might have a BCE DJ, but you'd avoid that anyway assuming the book was also BCE.

Here's the problem. Later printing DJ's are, in at least some cases, identical to first edition DJ's. Christine is one of em, I own a 1st edition and a 3rd edition and the DJ's are completely identical. Date code is the same, price is the same, ISBN is the same, they're completely identical. The Dead Zone is the same way, at least up to the 6th printing (IIRC). So if you can't tell the difference between a 1st printing DJ and a 5th printing DJ, and you can't tell the difference between a BCE book and first edition book, then couldn't your "verified" first edition be a BCE with a later printing DJ? It sure as hell could, and I've seen several copies of the The Dead Zone in just such a manner sell for 75 dollars and up on eBay (as much as a real first edition, in other words. It's not like seeing a BCE Carrie sell for 75 dollars).

So here's where the little tidbit about Viking moving comes in. All the book clubs I've seen that are the correct size were printed AFTER 1983. The Dead Zone was, of course, printed in 1979. Which means the addresses should be different, and they are. The BCE's have the 40 West 23rd Street address, the real Firsts have the 625 Madison Avenue address. The nice thing here is that Viking printed the address on the CP AND the DJ. The later printings were still at 625 Madison, so when you see a BCE with a later printing DJ, not only is the address on the CP wrong, but the address on the CP and the DJ don't match.

Now, this doesn't mean that there couldn't be some BCE's out there that are the correct size printed before 1983. In which case I don't know what to tell ya.

John

John,

I had a coversation with the seller Brentkpg some time ago. He mentioned another identifier on the book as the way the cloth was overlapped over the board on the book. I wish I had saved it. Maybe Greg or Hutch might shed some light on this?.

[Patrick]

Stephen King The Dead Zone 1979 1st Edition Autographed

Interesting, great inscription and memorabilia, ....

Regarding the memorabilia:

The book has the birthday inscription and signature dated in August 1979 and the giver's inscription in September 1979, which makes sense.

The main auction photo (photo 7 of 10) shows the birthday card with the note about meeting SK, and proximity in the photo implies that the event program shown (the "provenance" referred to in the auction description) is where the signature was obtained. However the date of that event is a year later in October 1980. Probably just an unfortunate placement of unrelated items, but I found it interesting.

[wizardsrainbow]

I'm the high bidder currently.

[jhanic]

Good luck, David!

John

[Randall Flagg]

Well, I Davis is bidding, I think I'll stay on the side. No sense running the price up.

[Fsmdr]

Greg (Shibus) just won the book.