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    Default The Official 2020 Oscar Discussion/Contest Thread

    Welcome to the 2020 Oscar Contest!

    The Rules

    Oscar night is right around the corner, so I'm going to post the rules for those who might not be familiar with them. Please tell your friends from other boards to come on over and join us. The more the merrier.

    You have until showtime on February 9, 2020.

    IMPORTANT: Don't forget the tie breaker. It's simple: Basically, everybody will submit their choices like usual, except they will also add which film they think will win the most Oscars and give a number. In case of a tie, whomever has the closest number without going over is the winner. If the tie remains, the person who submits their ballot earliest is the winner.

    Predictions have to be in by showtime, so there is no rush to post them. We still have some time before Oscar night. I myself will be waiting for the last possible moment to post my predictions.


    Remember, these are just educated guesses. None of us have seen every film nominated and I doubt if anybody has seen any of the documentary short subject nominees. Just make an educated guess. Or an uneducated guess.

    Returning this year:

    Returning this year will be the online ballot submission I created. Of course, ballots can still be submitted here.

    Where it says "name" just put your DT.org handle, or designate in some way that you are from the Dark Tower boards. I will be sharing the same contest form with other friends and I don't want to get them confused.

    https://tinyurl.com/OscarContest2020

    And the nominees are!

    Best Picture

    1917
    Ford v Ferrari
    The Irishman
    Jojo Rabbit
    Joker
    Little Women
    Marriage Story
    Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
    Parasite

    Actor in a Leading Role

    Antonio Banderas - Pain and Glory
    Leonardo DiCaprio - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
    Adam Driver - Marriage Story
    Joaquin Phoenix - Joker
    Jonathan Pryce - The Two Popes

    Actress in a Leading Role

    Cynthia Erivo - Harriet
    Scarlett Johansson - Marriage Story
    Saoirse Ronan - Little Women
    Charlize Theron - Bombshell
    Renée Zellweger - Judy

    Actress in a Supporting Role

    Kathy Bates - Richard Jewell
    Laura Dern - Marriage Story
    Scarlett Johansson - Jojo Rabbit
    Florence Pugh - Little Women
    Margot Robbie - Bombshell

    Actor in a Supporting Role

    Tom Hanks - A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood
    Anthony Hopkins - The Two Popes
    Al Pacino - The Irishman
    Joe Pesci - The Irishman
    Brad Pitt - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

    Directing

    Bong Joon Ho - Parasite
    Sam Mendes - 1917
    Todd Phillips - Joker
    Martin Scorsese - The Irishman
    Quentin Tarantino - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

    Adapted Screenplay

    The Irishman
    Jojo Rabbit
    Joker
    Little Women
    The Two Popes

    Original Screenplay

    1917
    Knives Out
    Marriage Story
    Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
    Parasite

    International Feature Film

    Corpus Christi
    Honeyland
    Les Miserables
    Pain and Glory
    Parasite

    Production Design

    1917
    The Irishman
    Jojo Rabbit
    Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
    Parasite

    Film Editing

    Ford v Ferrari
    The Irishman
    Jojo Rabbit
    Joker
    Parasite

    Cinematography

    1917
    The Irishman
    Joker
    The Lighthouse
    Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

    Visual Effects

    1917
    Avengers: Endgame
    The Irishman
    The Lion King
    Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

    Costume Design

    Jojo Rabbit
    Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
    The Irishman
    Joker
    Little Women

    Sound Mixing

    1917
    Ad Astra
    Ford v Ferrari
    Joker
    Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

    Sound Editing

    1917
    Ford v Ferrari
    Joker
    Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
    Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

    Original Score

    1917
    Joker
    Little Women
    Marriage Story
    Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

    Documentary Feature

    American Factory
    The Cave
    The Edge of Democracy
    For Sama
    Honeyland

    Documentary Short Subject

    In the Absence
    Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (If You’re a Girl)
    Life Overtakes Me
    St. Louis Superman
    Walk Run Cha-Cha

    Makeup and Hairstyling

    1917
    Bombshell
    Joker
    Judy
    Maleficent: Mistress of Evil

    Animated Feature Film

    How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World
    I Lost My Body
    Klaus
    Missing Link
    Toy Story 4

    Animated Short Film

    Dcera (Daughter)
    Hair Love
    Kitbull
    Memorable
    Sister

    Live-Action Short Film

    Brotherhood
    Nefta Football Club
    The Neighbors’ Window
    Saria
    A Sister

    Original Song

    "I Can't Let You Throw Yourself Away" - Toy Story 4
    "(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again" - Rocketman
    "I'm Standing With You" - Breakthrough
    "Into the Unknown" - Frozen 2
    "Stand Up" - Harriet


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    Yay finally!

    Okay this is super early and highly speculative, but here are what I imagine at this point the ten Best Picture noms could be, and yeah I know we never get ten but still:
    1. A Hidden Life
    2. Avengers: Endgame
    3. Booksmart
    4. Hustlers
    5. Joker
    6. Marriage Story
    7. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
    8. Parasite
    9. Portrait of a Lady on Fire
    10. The Farewell

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    Quote Originally Posted by mae View Post
    Yay finally!

    Okay this is super early and highly speculative, but here are what I imagine at this point the ten Best Picture noms could be, and yeah I know we never get ten but still:
    1. A Hidden Life
    2. Avengers: Endgame
    3. Booksmart
    4. Hustlers
    5. Joker
    6. Marriage Story
    7. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
    8. Parasite
    9. Portrait of a Lady on Fire
    10. The Farewell
    Solid list. You might be spot on with Endgame. The Academy wants to get ratings and what better way than to nominate the biggest film of the year. Hustlers is getting a lot of buzz, but it doesn't feel like a Best Picture film to me. I love Booksmart, but I think it came out too early. I think Jojo Rabbit is almost a lock for a nomination. It won the top prize at the Toronto International Film Festival, which is becoming a good Best Picture predictor. Green Book won it last year and La La Land before it.

    Here's my list:

    1. Knives Out
    2. Avengers: Endgame
    3. Jojo Rabbit
    4. The Irishman
    5. Joker
    6. Marriage Story
    7. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
    8. Parasite
    9. Portrait of a Lady on Fire
    10. The Farewell

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    True, Hustlers is a longshot, but I would love it if the Academy spiced things up. There are plenty of choices this year, some we still know very little about like The Irishman or Little Women or 1917. I hope the Academy keeps Booksmart in mind like they did with Get Out. And Booksmart came out in May, while Get Out came out in February. Jojo is certainly a good choice too, we'll see. I'm not sure about Knives Out, sure it's getting lots of praise but it seems like a Clue remake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mae View Post
    True, Hustlers is a longshot, but I would love it if the Academy spiced things up. There are plenty of choices this year, some we still know very little about like The Irishman or Little Women or 1917. I hope the Academy keeps Booksmart in mind like they did with Get Out. And Booksmart came out in May, while Get Out came out in February. Jojo is certainly a good choice too, we'll see. I'm not sure about Knives Out, sure it's getting lots of praise but it seems like a Clue remake.
    The main reason I put Knives out there is that it seems like it's going to be a crowd pleasing film like Green Book was last year. They are both different, but the thing that Green Book had going for it was how wide the demographic for the film was. Same with Knives Out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Servant View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mae View Post
    Yay finally!

    Okay this is super early and highly speculative, but here are what I imagine at this point the ten Best Picture noms could be, and yeah I know we never get ten but still:
    1. A Hidden Life
    2. Avengers: Endgame
    3. Booksmart
    4. Hustlers
    5. Joker
    6. Marriage Story
    7. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
    8. Parasite
    9. Portrait of a Lady on Fire
    10. The Farewell
    Solid list. You might be spot on with Endgame. The Academy wants to get ratings and what better way than to nominate the biggest film of the year. Hustlers is getting a lot of buzz, but it doesn't feel like a Best Picture film to me. I love Booksmart, but I think it came out too early. I think Jojo Rabbit is almost a lock for a nomination. It won the top prize at the Toronto International Film Festival, which is becoming a good Best Picture predictor. Green Book won it last year and La La Land before it.

    Here's my list:

    1. Knives Out
    2. Avengers: Endgame
    3. Jojo Rabbit
    4. The Irishman
    5. Joker
    6. Marriage Story
    7. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
    8. Parasite
    9. Portrait of a Lady on Fire
    10. The Farewell
    Can I ask why movies are on here that you have not viewed yet?

    PS: I had to turn Parasite off. I found it so boring.
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    Speaking just for myself, like I said in my initial post, this is just speculation, this is what I think the nominations could potentially be. I've only included films that have been released (maybe only at festivals) and reviewed by critics, so I'm basing their BP potential on that plus their trailer and just what the film feels like overall to me, even if I haven't seen it yet. No one has seen The Irishman or Little Women yet, but some critics are already putting those in the running based simply on their potential. We won't know of course until end of the year really, once these movies all come out, buit it's still fun to speculate, and to see how wildly off I was in September.

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    Do you guys really think Avengers: Endgame and Joker will get a nomination? My guess is it'll be one or the other, and I'm leaning towards Joker because it sounds like it's more artsy. Don't get me wrong I love Endgame, but I'm just not sure it's good enough for best picture. Especially since it doesn't really stand on it's own. Without the context of the 10 years of movies before it, it's not really as good. That said I haven't seen enough of the movies that would be nominated to make an educated guess for the Oscars this year.

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    I think there's a good chance. They may want to acknowledge their accomplishment, both at the box-office with this installment but just for the MCU as a whole and how it ties everything together. But it's also just a great film on its own, it's got a 4.1/5 on Letterboxd. I wouldn't be surprised if it's not nominated, but it should be. Once we see the fall and winter movies like The Irishman and Little Women, it might well fall out of the Top Ten BP picks for me. Closer to the actual nominations I'll post an updated Top 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mae View Post
    I think there's a good chance. They may want to acknowledge their accomplishment, both at the box-office with this installment but just for the MCU as a whole and how it ties everything together. But it's also just a great film on its own, it's got a 4.1/5 on Letterboxd. I wouldn't be surprised if it's not nominated, but it should be.
    Mostly I just don't think they're going to nominate two comic book movies. So I think it'd either be Joker or Endgame. The only other Marvel movie to be nominated was Black Panther right? I think Disney campaigned pretty hard for that too. I wonder if they'll put as much effort into Endgame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post

    Can I ask why movies are on here that you have not viewed yet?

    PS: I had to turn Parasite off. I found it so boring.
    We are just going off of what the buzz surrounding these films is generating. Before the baseball season, people predict who is going to play in the World Series. This is no different.

    Where did you get to see Parasite? Did you steal it off of the internet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Servant View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post

    Can I ask why movies are on here that you have not viewed yet?

    PS: I had to turn Parasite off. I found it so boring.
    We are just going off of what the buzz surrounding these films is generating. Before the baseball season, people predict who is going to play in the World Series. This is no different.

    Where did you get to see Parasite? Did you steal it off of the internet?
    Got ya. Was curious how you picked them.

    I did get the copy off the Internet of Parasite as there is no theatres for 1500klm that showed it near me. I also did not like it at all...



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    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Still Servant View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post

    Can I ask why movies are on here that you have not viewed yet?

    PS: I had to turn Parasite off. I found it so boring.
    We are just going off of what the buzz surrounding these films is generating. Before the baseball season, people predict who is going to play in the World Series. This is no different.

    Where did you get to see Parasite? Did you steal it off of the internet?
    Got ya. Was curious how you picked them.

    I did get the copy off the Internet of Parasite as there is no theatres for 1500klm that showed it near me. I also did not like it at all...
    You're not a big Asian Cinema guy though, are you?

    Have you seen any of Bong Joon-ho's other films like Snowpiercer or The Host? Parasite leans closer to Memories of Murder and Mother I'm guessing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Servant View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Still Servant View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post

    Can I ask why movies are on here that you have not viewed yet?

    PS: I had to turn Parasite off. I found it so boring.
    We are just going off of what the buzz surrounding these films is generating. Before the baseball season, people predict who is going to play in the World Series. This is no different.

    Where did you get to see Parasite? Did you steal it off of the internet?
    Got ya. Was curious how you picked them.

    I did get the copy off the Internet of Parasite as there is no theatres for 1500klm that showed it near me. I also did not like it at all...
    You're not a big Asian Cinema guy though, are you?

    Have you seen any of Bong Joon-ho's other films like Snowpiercer or The Host? Parasite leans closer to Memories of Murder and Mother I'm guessing.
    Loved Snowpiercer. I also liked Host. I would say not a huge Asian Cinema guy but def seen some beauties from them.


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    I got very slight hints of Burning, too, at least from the trailer.

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    Just some food for thought, never seen these guys before, but a pretty good outlook. Still, 21 picks for Best Picture and no Hustlers or Booksmart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mae View Post
    I got very slight hints of Burning, too, at least from the trailer.
    Me too! And you know how much I loved that one.

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    Sounds like The Irishman is the real deal:


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    I'm trying to stay away from reviews etc., but I heard it's 3 and a half hours long. Is that true?

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    Yes and there are no spoilers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mae View Post
    Yes and there are no spoilers.
    Thank you.

    It's not really about spoilers, I'm trying to go into as many movies as I can knowing absolutely nothing. It's hard because I love talking about movies, but it's worked nicely for a few films like Ready or Not and Midsommar.

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    https://deadline.com/2019/10/oscars-...es-1202754361/
    The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences has released the full list of countries that have submitted a pic for consideration for the new International Feature Film Oscar category.

    Here are the 93 nations and their hopefuls, in alphabetical order:

    Albania, The Delegation, Bujar Alimani, director;
    Algeria, Papicha, Mounia Meddour, director;
    Argentina, Heroic Losers, Sebastián Borensztein, director;
    Armenia, Lengthy Night, Edgar Baghdasaryan, director;
    Australia, Buoyancy, Rodd Rathjen, director;
    Austria, Joy, Sudabeh Mortezai, director;
    Bangladesh, Alpha, Nasiruddin Yousuff, director;
    Belarus, Debut, Anastasiya Miroshnichenko, director;
    Belgium, Our Mothers, César Díaz, director;
    Bolivia, I Miss You, Rodrigo Bellott, director;
    Bosnia and Herzegovina, The Son, Ines Tanovic, director;
    Brazil, Invisible Life, Karim Aïnouz, director;
    Bulgaria, Ága, Milko Lazarov, director;
    Cambodia, In the Life of Music, Caylee So, Sok Visal, directors;
    Canada, Antigone, Sophie Deraspe, director;
    Chile, Spider, Andrés Wood, director;
    China, Ne Zha, Yu Yang, director;
    Colombia, Monos, Alejandro Landes, director;
    Costa Rica, The Awakening of the Ants, Antonella Sudasassi Furniss, director;
    Croatia, Mali, Antonio Nuic, director;
    Cuba, A Translator, Rodrigo Barriuso, Sebastián Barriuso, directors;
    Czech Republic, The Painted Bird, Václav Marhoul, director;
    Denmark, Queen of Hearts, May el-Toukhy, director;
    Dominican Republic, The Projectionist, José María Cabral, director;
    Ecuador, The Longest Night, Gabriela Calvache, director;
    Egypt, Poisonous Roses, Ahmed Fawzi Saleh, director;
    Estonia, Truth and Justice, Tanel Toom, director;
    Ethiopia, Running against the Wind, Jan Philipp Weyl, director;
    Finland, Stupid Young Heart, Selma Vilhunen, director;
    France, Les Misérables, Ladj Ly, director;
    Georgia, Shindisi, Dimitri Tsintsadze, director;
    Germany, System Crasher, Nora Fingscheidt, director;
    Ghana, Azali, Kwabena Gyansah, director;
    Greece, When Tomatoes Met Wagner, Marianna Economou, director;
    Honduras, Blood, Passion, and Coffee, Carlos Membreño, director;
    Hong Kong, The White Storm 2 Drug Lords, Herman Yau, director;
    Hungary, Those Who Remained, Barnabás Tóth, director;
    Iceland, A White, White Day, Hlynur Pálmason, director;
    India, Gully Boy, Zoya Akhtar, director;
    Indonesia, Memories of My Body, Garin Nugroho, director;
    Iran, Finding Farideh, Azadeh Moussavi, Kourosh Ataee, directors;
    Ireland, Gaza, Garry Keane, Andrew McConnell, directors;
    Israel, Incitement, Yaron Zilberman, director;
    Italy, The Traitor, Marco Bellocchio, director;
    Japan, Weathering with You, Makoto Shinkai, director;
    Kazakhstan, Kazakh Khanate. The Golden Throne, Rustem Abdrashov, director;
    Kenya, Subira, Ravneet Singh (Sippy) Chadha, director;
    Kosovo, Zana, Antoneta Kastrati, director;
    Kyrgyzstan, Aurora, Bekzat Pirmatov, director;
    Latvia, The Mover, Davis Simanis, director;
    Lebanon, 1982, Oualid Mouaness, director;
    Lithuania, Bridges of Time, Audrius Stonys, Kristine Briede, directors;
    Luxembourg, Tel Aviv on Fire, Sameh Zoabi, director;
    Malaysia, M for Malaysia, Dian Lee, Ineza Roussille, directors;
    Mexico, The Chambermaid, Lila Avilés, director;
    Mongolia, The Steed, Erdenebileg Ganbold, director;
    Montenegro, Neverending Past, Andro Martinović, director;
    Morocco, Adam, Maryam Touzani, director;
    Nepal, Bulbul, Binod Paudel, director;
    Netherlands, Instinct, Halina Reijn, director;
    Nigeria, Lionheart, Genevieve Nnaji, director;
    North Macedonia, Honeyland, Ljubo Stefanov, Tamara Kotevska, directors;
    Norway, Out Stealing Horses, Hans Petter Moland, director;
    Pakistan, Laal Kabootar, Kamal Khan, director;
    Palestine, It Must Be Heaven, Elia Suleiman, director;
    Panama, Everybody Changes, Arturo Montenegro, director;
    Peru, Retablo, Alvaro Delgado Aparicio, director;
    Philippines, Verdict, Raymund Ribay Gutierrez, director;
    Poland, Corpus Christi, Jan Komasa, director;
    Portugal, The Domain, Tiago Guedes, director;
    Romania, The Whistlers, Corneliu Porumboiu, director;
    Russia, Beanpole, Kantemir Balagov, director;
    Saudi Arabia, The Perfect Candidate, Haifaa Al Mansour, director;
    Senegal, Atlantics, Mati Diop, director;
    Serbia, King Petar the First, Petar Ristovski, director;
    Singapore, A Land Imagined, Yeo Siew Hua, director;
    Slovakia, Let There Be Light, Marko Skop, director;
    Slovenia, History of Love, Sonja Prosenc, director;
    South Africa, Knuckle City, Jahmil X.T. Qubeka, director;
    South Korea, Parasite, Bong Joon Ho, director;
    Spain, Pain and Glory, Pedro Almodóvar, director;
    Sweden, And Then We Danced, Levan Akin, director;
    Switzerland, Wolkenbruch’s Wondrous Journey into the Arms of a Shiksa, Michael Steiner, director;
    Taiwan, Dear Ex, Mag Hsu, Chih-Yen Hsu, directors;
    Thailand, Krasue: Inhuman Kiss, Sitisiri Mongkolsiri, director;
    Tunisia, Dear Son, Mohamed Ben Attia, director;
    Turkey, Commitment Asli, Semih Kaplanoglu, director;
    Ukraine, Homeward, Nariman Aliev, director;
    United Kingdom, The Boy Who Harnessed the Wind, Chiwetel Ejiofor, director;
    Uruguay, The Moneychanger, Federico Veiroj, director;
    Uzbekistan, Hot Bread, Umid Khamdamov, director;
    Venezuela, Being Impossible, Patricia Ortega, director;
    Vietnam, Furie, Le Van Kiet, director.

    The Academy’s Board of Governors voted this year to rename the Foreign Language Film category as International Feature Film and expand the shortlist from nine to 10 films.

    An international feature film is defined as a feature-length motion picture (more than 40 minutes) produced outside the United States with a predominantly non-English dialogue track. Ghana, Nigeria and Uzbekistan are first-time entrants.

    The shortlist of 10 films will be announced on Monday, December 16, and the nominations for the 92nd Oscars will be announced on Monday, January 13. The Academy Awards will be handed out on Sunday, February 9.

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    So for my part, just a very rough guestimate as to what the 10 shortlisted picks (having seen none of these so based mainly on trailers, buzz, talent, and plot) would be:
    1. Australia: Buoyancy
    2. Brazil: The Invisible Life of Eurídice Gusmão
    3. Colombia, Monos
    4. Czech Republic, The Painted Bird
    5. Denmark, Queen of Hearts
    6. France, Les Misérables
    7. Japan, Weathering with You
    8. Luxembourg, Tel Aviv on Fire
    9. South Korea, Parasite
    10. Spain, Pain and Glory

    The five nominees in my estimation are in bold. And we all know who the winner is.

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    I haven't seen Joker yet, but I've of course been following all this ridiculous controversy surrounding the film.

    As we all know, there have been tons of ultra-violent films with similar subject matter. Funny Games, A Clockwork Orange and Man Bites Dog come to mind. Yes, many films of this nature are relegated to artsy theaters. Joker is one of the more high profile films to deal with this kind of subject matter that is aimed for a mass audience.

    I guess I'm kind of annoyed right now hearing that the film is getting so much backlash that its chances of garnering Oscar attention is now in doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Servant View Post
    I haven't seen Joker yet, but I've of course been following all this ridiculous controversy surrounding the film.

    As we all know, there have been tons of ultra-violent films with similar subject matter. Funny Games, A Clockwork Orange and Man Bites Dog come to mind. Yes, many films of this nature are relegated to artsy theaters. Joker is one of the more high profile films to deal with this kind of subject matter that is aimed for a mass audience.

    I guess I'm kind of annoyed right now hearing that the film is getting so much backlash that its chances of garnering Oscar attention is now in doubt.
    I go back and forth on this topic. On the one hand, one can never know what is going to trigger someone to violence.
    However, I think it is a little naive to think that art has no effect on real life.

    Catholic zealots set a movie theater on fire in Paris during a screening of The Last Temptation of Christ injuring 13 people. At another theater, a man rammed his car into the box office of a theater showing the same movie. Scorsese still gets death threats over that film.

    The Birth of a Nation is widely credited with bringing back to life a nearly non-existent KKK.

    Propaganda film is used during wartime to make the enemy even more hated and easily killable, less human and it works pretty well.

    And you mentioned A Clockwork Orange which I believe Kubrick himself took out of of circulation in the UK due to copycat gang violence.

    Art imitates life but art is a lie that helps us better understand the truth we've been given at least. We get our ideas of what love and friendship, family and conflict resolution could/should be like from films.

    It's a bit of a problem in my brain because I don't believe in artistic censorship but at the same time, I can clearly see how films and TV can affect real life in both positive and negative ways. And it's difficult to say that said art has no responsibility in those effects.

    And not for nothing but we live in a generation with people like the incels and laundry-detergeant eaters and kids that join ISIS through YouTube recruitment videos. To be an "influencer" is an actual thing now.

    Film and TV as both media and art forms is a relatively new thing and I don't think we fully understand it's power.

    Just as a stupid example, how many girls got the Rachel haircut because of Friends and how many boys had that Justin Bieber haircut?

    Film and TV definitely can influence things to happen, does that make them responsible for those actions though? I really don't know.

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