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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyHitchhiker View Post
    I think Andy was being used...
    I think he was reprogrammed just as the Terminators were repogrammed to help John Conner rather than kill him, but I think it was the opposite way with Andy. Originally he was a mildly annoying horoscope-bot who was reprogrammed with fiendish purposes in mind... And yes, I did feel sorry for The Terminator at the end of Terminator 2 because I felt he had surpassed his programming and became more human, just as I empathized with Data from Star trek.
    If Andy were human, I would say he was brainwashed...
    That's my theory so far at least..
    But he could very well just originally have been programmed for nefarious plots and just had the interesting little songs and ditties installed to cover up his evil plans...
    I'm not SK I do not know the answer.
    i have to disagree. i think that cruel spark was already there, the reprogramming just allowed him to unleash it.
    By the way, did something happen to data that i don't know about?
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    i really got the feeling that andy hated the folken - as much as a robot can hate. he seemed to have that, i don't know, sinister feeling to him. i didn't like him from the very first time he showed up. and then when it turned out he was a traitor i thought well that explains that. i really thought it was just him though, so when it turned out that slightman the elder was in on it i was really very sad.

    as for why he was doing it. programming? maybe. but like i said, i really just think he didn't like those folken. i think he felt like they thought they were better than him. i don't know why i got that feeling - just in every interaction it was like there was something bubbling under his surface.

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    The more I read about that walking can the more I can't stand him.

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    Hey, maybe there's a reason Andy ended up not liking them...

    I mean treating him like he was useless all those years, not appreciating him, and then his bad programming or deteroriating programming on top of it...

    Maybe he was going insane like Blaine...

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    There is no reason for letting little children die.

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    No reason for a sane person or robot...

    If I felt he was working properly I would have no sympathy for him. Also, I would detest his makers.

    Who were his makers?

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    I don't feel Andy was insane. He did what he was programmed to do still I can't stand him. I don't think he had any other choice (he has neither own personality nor soul nor mind) but the way he acts makes me so damn angry with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyHitchhiker View Post
    Who were his makers?
    I believe North Central Positronics. Didn't they also create Data?
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    And yet, we seek it, insatiably. Such is our fate. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
    I don't feel Andy was insane. He did what he was programmed to do still I can't stand him. I don't think he had any other choice (he has neither own personality nor soul nor mind) but the way he acts makes me so damn angry with him.
    I agree to an extent. I do think that Andy had some choice in the how of what he did, though, and I think he intentionally chose the how that would hurt the townfolks the most. And that's the area where I believe their treatment of him had an effect.

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    Who were his makers?
    I believe North Central Positronics. Didn't they also create Data?
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    i think it had nothing to do with programming or hate and was all about getting the most of whatever it was the wolves took from the twins. think about it, it was some chemical/hormonal quality that they needed. if andy, or a predecessor, gave the calla enough warning-everyone goes in to full "fight or flight" mode, adrenaline and about a thousand other things start pumping through the brain and body....think of it as a psychological marinade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bethany View Post
    i think it had nothing to do with programming or hate and was all about getting the most of whatever it was the wolves took from the twins. think about it, it was some chemical/hormonal quality that they needed. if andy, or a predecessor, gave the calla enough warning-everyone goes in to full "fight or flight" mode, adrenaline and about a thousand other things start pumping through the brain and body....think of it as a psychological marinade.
    Hrm, sounds like you do think it was programming, then. If that's what was needed from the twins (and I think that's an awesome theory, btw), then he would need to be programmed to ensure that's how it went. Even so, I feel like he derived pleasure from it. I think that, like Blaine, Andy was capable of rudimentary feelings.
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    A whole lot more than riches and muscle.

    The hands of the many must join as one.
    And together we'll cross the river.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razz View Post
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    Who were his makers?
    I believe North Central Positronics. Didn't they also create Data?
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    Default Andy... why?

    I searched and didn't see this brought up, but one thing that kept bugging me: WHY did Andy warn the calla folk that the wolves were coming? Why did he get them to reach out the the gunslingers?

    I'd originally thought that maybe he was really a good robot that was trying to fight his programming, but after finishing the book, it's clear that that's not the case.

    Any thoughts?

    *edt* nevermind, was messing up my search. Found this thread: http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/...ead.php?t=2219

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    Hi outsider, Welcome to the site.Interesting question...
    I thought it was his programming that made him do it.
    In any event the computers werent funtioning at all well anyway
    were they? Maybe it was just a glitch, but I am not sure about it at all.

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    Andy enjoyed the desperation and panic his announcement caused among the Calla folken.

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    Why did Andy blab about the wolves? "Messenger; many other functions" is about all we need to know on that question.
    As far as Andy getting the folken to reach out to the gunslingers...if I remember correctly, it was the Old Fella who convinced the men at the town meeting to go to the ka-tet and ask for their help. Andy spread the news about the gunslingers' arrival, though.

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    Nevermind, Outsider. Welcome to the site. We will merge the two threads soon.

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    My personal theory is that he's an arse.
    " Say, the wolves're comin'. I know what they come for, and how they always know where the children are hidden, but I'm not telling you because you treat me like a pile of scrap. So, up yours."

    ... That's the mentality, anyway. The likelyness of Andy saying something like that is nihil, but you get the idea.

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    I tend to agree with you guys. Andy's an asterisk.

    Finishing up book 7 now so I can join in more discussions This was just one issue I thought was never resolved by king in the book

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    I think it's because andy like blaine became more humanlike as time wore on and part of that involved him telling the calla folk that the wolves were coming, yeah he was on the side of the CK but telling the calla folk that the wolves were coming satisfied that little bit of him that felt honestly bad
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    I agree with the idea that over time Andy, like Blaine, took on some human qualities. But, I don't think he ever felt bad for telling the people about the wolves. I think he enjoyed it. I always imagined that he rather enjoyed the panic he would cause. Each time he got to see everyone run around like crazy people for a month (or more).
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    Right, right , the machines gone mad

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