The Official 2019 Oscar Discussion/Contest Thread

[webstar1000]

Black Panther should not be there.

[Still Servant]

And the nominees are!

BEST PICTURE

Black Panther
BlacKkKlansman
Bohemian Rhapsody
The Favourite
Green Book
Roma
A Star Is Born
Vice

ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE

Christian Bale - Vice
Bradley Cooper - A Star Is Born
Willem Dafoe - At Eternity's Gate
Rami Malek - Bohemian Rhapsody
Viggo Mortensen - Green Book

ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE

Yalitza Aparicio - Roma
Glenn Close - The Wife
Lady Gaga - A Star Is Born
Olivia Colman - The Favourite
Melissa McCarthy - Can You Ever Forgive Me?


ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE

Amy Adams - Vice
Marina de Tavira - Roma
Regina King - If Beale Street Could Talk
Emma Stone - The Favourite
Rachel Weisz The Favourite

ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE

Mahershala Ali - Green Book
Adam Driver - BlackKKlansman
Sam Elliott - A Star Is Born
Richard E. Grant - Can You Ever Forgive Me
Sam Rockwell - Vice

DIRECTOR

Spike Lee - BlacKkKlansman
Pawel Pawlikowski - Cold War
Yorgos Lanthimos - The Favourite
Alfonso Cuarón - Roma
Adam McKay - Vice

FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM

Capernaum
Cold War
Never Look Away
Roma
Shoplifters

DOCUMENTARY (SHORT)

Black Sheep
End Game
Lifeboat
A Night at the Garden
Period. End of Sentence.

DOCUMENTARY FEATURE

Free Solo
Hale County This Morning, This Evening
Minding the Gap
Of Fathers and Sons
RBG

ORIGINAL SONG

All The Stars - Black Panther
I'll Fight - RBG
Shallow - A Star Is Born
The Place Where Lost Things Go - Mary Poppins Returns
When A Cowboy Trades His Spurs For Wings - "The Ballad of Buster Scruggs

ANIMATED FEATURE FILM

Incredibles 2
Isle of Dogs
Mirai
Ralph Breaks the Internet
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

ADAPTED SCREENPLAY

The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
BlacKkKlansman
Can You Ever Forgive Me?
If Beale Street Could Talk
A Star Is Born

ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY

First Reformed
Green Book
Roma
The Favourite
Vice



PRODUCTION DESIGN

Black Panther
The Favourite
First Man
Mary Poppins Returns
Roma

CINEMATOGRAPHY

Cold War
The Favourite
Never Look Away
Roma
A Star Is Born

COSTUME DESIGN

The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Black Panther
The Favourite
Mary Poppins Returns
Mary Queen of Scots

SOUND EDITING

A Quiet Place
Black Panther
Bohemian Rhapsody
First Man
Roma

SOUND MIXING

Black Panther
Bohemian Rhapsody
First Man
Roma
A Star Is Born

ANIMATED SHORT FILM

Animal Behaviour
Bao
Late Afternoon
One Small Step
Weekends

LIVE ACTION SHORT FILM

Detainment
Fauve
Marguerite
Mother
Skin

ORIGINAL SCORE

Black Panther
BlacKkKlansman
If Beale Street Could Talk
Isle of Dogs
Mary Poppins Returns

VISUAL EFFECTS

Avengers: Infinity War
Christopher Robin
First Man
Ready Player One
Solo: A Star Wars Story

FILM EDITING

BlacKkKlansman
Bohemian Rhapsody
Green Book
The Favourite
Vice

MAKEUP AND HAIRSTYLING

Border
Mary Queen of Scots
Vice

[Heather19]

I've only seen 4 films nominated, and they're more obscure ones. Surprised, but not surprised to see Willem Dafoe nominated for At Eternity's Gate. He was excellent as Vincent, but I haven't heard of anyone seeing this movie besides me There's a couple films that I want to see still, but honestly most of these don't interest me in the least.

[Still Servant]

I've only seen 4 films nominated, and they're more obscure ones. Surprised, but not surprised to see Willem Dafoe nominated for At Eternity's Gate. He was excellent as Vincent, but I haven't heard of anyone seeing this movie besides me There's a couple films that I want to see still, but honestly most of these don't interest me in the least.

Wow! I don't know anyone else who has seen that film. I will post my comments about the nominations tomorrow. In the meantime, we have some business to decide before Oscar night. We haven't talked about this since after the show last year, but we floated the idea of a secondary tiebreaker. We were having tons of ties, so we instituted a tiebreaker a few years ago. Well, last year we still had a tiebreaker even with the tiebreaker already in place.

If everyone is cool with ties, we can certainly keep it with just one tiebreaker. We can also discuss a secondary tiebreaker if you'd like. Some of the ideas last year were determining the winner by who submits earlier, best of the big 6 categories, second most Oscars won. I think that was it.

[Lurker]

Frankly, since there is no hardware involved, I see no need for any tie breaker.

[Heather19]

Did you see that movie Mike? I'd love to hear your thoughts. I feel like it's one of those movies that came and went. I wasn't a huge fan of it, but I did think Willem was excellent in that role. He really did look like Vincent.

[Still Servant]

Frankly, since there is no hardware involved, I see no need for any tie breaker.

That's my feelings as well.

Did you see that movie Mike? I'd love to hear your thoughts. I feel like it's one of those movies that came and went. I wasn't a huge fan of it, but I did think Willem was excellent in that role. He really did look like Vincent.

I haven't seen it. I remember seeing the trailer in theaters, but it never opened near me. I will have to track it down. I noticed that Cold War is opening near me at a few theaters this weekend.

In regards to the nominations, I knew going in that many of my favorite films and performances didn't have a chance to get nominated either because they came out too early or just simply got lost in the shuffle. Films and performances like Joaquin Phoenix in You Were Never Here, Charlize Theron in Tully, Leave No Trace, Toni Collette in Hereditary, A Quiet Place, Annihilation and a few more that I'm sure I'm forgetting never had a chance.

I would have liked to have seen Ethan Hawke get nominated for First Reformed, but that's the only true disappointment I had. The Best Picture nominations are no surprise, although I don't understand nominating just 8. Pawel Pawlikowski getting nominated for Best Director is the biggest surprise. I thought Bradley Cooper had that locked up.

I think more than a few of the categories are locks, but it should be fun debating in the coming weeks. I will say, I think Roma is the front runner right now.

[Mattrick]

I just want to know why Makeup and Hairstyling is always capped at 3 nominations.

[Heather19]

Why do you guys think Hereditary was left out of the mix. That's one film that I was hoping would get some nomination. It's so much more thought provoking than what the trailers make it out to be.

[mae]

Same reason Annihilation was. Small genre movie.

[Still Servant]

Same reason Annihilation was. Small genre movie.

Yeah, pretty much. The only reason why Get Out was remembered all year in 2017 was because of the timely nature of its subject matter.

[Mattrick]

It's clear Hereditary was left out because it wasn't diverse enough, and also wasn't a movie about historical and powerful white people or music. If Hereditary had a bitchin concert scene, it would've gotten some love, I think.

My Current Top 5 for 2018


1. Roma
2. Leave No Trace
3. Hereditary
4. Green Book
5. Mission Impossible: Fallout

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[Still Servant]

Black Panther's BP nomination is as much about luring people to their TV sets as it is about race.

[Garrell]

Just saw Green Book. Best pic of the year imho

[Ricky]

I'm totally underwhelmed by the nominations. For such a great year of film, it's just so blah. Maybe I'll feel different when I watch a few of the key films that I've missed. As it stands I'm hoping Roma/Green Book/The Favourite just clean house.

I agree. Just watched the nominations tonight and I'm underwhelmed as well. Some of them were a lock for weeks, but the subject matter of most of them just don't excite me, like Heather said. Compare this to last year when there were, what seemed like, more exciting films nominated for BP: Dunkirk, The Shape of Water, etc. I would like to see A Star is Born, thought.

Black Panther should not be there.

Yup, totally agree. I haven't seen it, but in the time and place that we're living in (especially considering the ridiculous #OscarsSoWhite thing a year or two ago), it was obvious that they were going to star nominating films based on social factors (and popularity) moreso than merit.

I've only seen 4 films nominated, and they're more obscure ones. Surprised, but not surprised to see Willem Dafoe nominated for At Eternity's Gate. He was excellent as Vincent, but I haven't heard of anyone seeing this movie besides me There's a couple films that I want to see still, but honestly most of these don't interest me in the least.

I've heard of Eternity's Gate, but haven't seen it. I don't even think it opened anywhere near me. But I agree with you, there's not many that interest me at all in this group of BP noms.

Yeah, pretty much. The only reason why Get Out was remembered all year in 2017 was because of the timely nature of its subject matter.

Yup. But you can't say that, though, because then you're racist.

If Hereditary had a bitchin concert scene, it would've gotten some love, I think.

Black Panther's BP nomination is as much about luring people to their TV sets as it is about race.

Echoing your thoughts again, Mike.

And I've not seen a single BP nominated film. Or even nominated-adjacent.

However, I was surprised not to see more love (or BP noms) given to: Beale Street, Ben Is Back, Beautiful Boy, Boy Erased, and First Man.

[Mattrick]

Black Panther's BP nomination is as much about luring people to their TV sets as it is about race.

Same with Rhapsody. Very populist in terms of getting popular movies in there.

They did just add something like 780 new Academy members last year, the biggest increase ever. That could've swayed the voting a lot.

[fernandito]

Black Panther is good but its inclusion is more a reflection of a modern cultural zeitgeist. It's not even the best Marvel movie.

Also, if ANY CBM should have won best picture, that film is The Dark Knight. Still the best of its kind and one of the best films of the 00's.

And yes, I'm still bitter that it wasn't even nominated that year. Fucking Slumdog Millionaire. GTFO.

[webstar1000]

Black Panther is good but its inclusion is more a reflection of a modern cultural zeitgeist. It's not even the best Marvel movie.

Also, if ANY CBM should have won best picture, that film is The Dark Knight. Still the best of its kind and one of the best films of the 00's.

And yes, I'm still better that it wasn't even nominated that year. Fucking Slumdog Millionaire. GTFO.

100% AGREE with you!

[mae]

I really liked Black Panther, but yes, it wasn't even the best superhero movie of the year, which was Spider-Verse. I'm fine with it being nominated but the first superhero film to be nominated for Best Picture should've been Wonder Woman last year.

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[Ricky]

Black Panther is good but its inclusion is more a reflection of a modern cultural zeitgeist. It's not even the best Marvel movie.

Also, if ANY CBM should have won best picture, that film is The Dark Knight. Still the best of its kind and one of the best films of the 00's.

And yes, I'm still bitter that it wasn't even nominated that year. Fucking Slumdog Millionaire. GTFO.

Agree with all of this. Blank Panther is this year's Get Out.

And I like how your bitterness is still intact.

[Heather19]

I'm also shocked that Won't You Be My Neighbor wasn't nominated. It was such a good movie, and has such a wonderful positive message. Everyone should see that movie. It really deserves to be there. I also loved Three Identical Strangers. Out of the nominees, I've only seen RGB (which I did enjoy), and I really want to see Free Solo. But yeah, I thought those two if not Neighbor should at least be there.

[Still Servant]

Black Panther is good but its inclusion is more a reflection of a modern cultural zeitgeist. It's not even the best Marvel movie.

Also, if ANY CBM should have won best picture, that film is The Dark Knight. Still the best of its kind and one of the best films of the 00's.

And yes, I'm still bitter that it wasn't even nominated that year. Fucking Slumdog Millionaire. GTFO.

Agree with all of this. Blank Panther is this year's Get Out.

And I like how your bitterness is still intact.

No way! Get Out was much more deserving of the Best Picture Oscar nomination than Black Panther.

If Black Panther wins the Oscar for Best Picture, I may never watch again. No joke. If Beale Street Could Talk is the African American vehicle if any they should be getting behind and it doesn't even get nominated. I can't figure this shit out sometimes.

[Still Servant]

Here is the online ballot I created for this year. If someone would be so kind to double check my work to make sure I didn't make any mistakes, it would be appreciated.

https://tinyurl.com/OscarContest2019