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    Hey guys, I know this thread has been inactive since October of 2018 and is primarily about Nocturnal Readers Box, but because now when you search my name and Dark Regions Press in Google this thread pops up, I wanted to correct the record on the podcasts about Dark Regions Press.

    The creator of the podcasts slandering Dark Regions Press and myself owed us a manuscript for almost 4 years. After two years of waiting I started to get a little antsy to read the new story, so would e-mail the author asking for updates. Each time I contacted him he would tell me something like "it's being edited" "it's with my test readers" then "it's with my editors" again or "first draft is complete, now it's being edited." These kind of replies persisted for almost another year until it got to the point where I felt as if I was being led on and not being told the truth after 2.5 years of waiting. Eventually we signed a new contract addendum with him to get the story from him by September 2016 in exchange for paying him the 2nd part of his advance early. Then another year came and went with no manuscript, and October 2017 is when we cancelled the deal and he paid us back in installments the advance that we paid him.

    His final repayment to us was on January 10th 2018 in paying us back the advance that we paid him for this book that we signed under contract in February 2014. His first podcast episode bashing Dark Regions Press and myself came out on February 15th 2018, 36 days after he finished paying us back. Personally, I find it extremely unlikely that he would have created these podcasts if he was still under contract with Dark Regions Press, LLC and find the timing of these podcasts very suspect.

    Unfortunately, this author also spread falsehoods about myself and Dark Regions Press, LLC. He publicly claimed that we never paid Tom Piccirilli's wife royalties since Tom passed away, but this is 100% false and we have the PayPal transaction records to prove it. He claimed there were multiple authors being treated "poorly" by us and created a "grievance inbox" so that all of these authors we were supposedly mistreating could send their complaints. Do you know how many e-mails they got in that inbox? TWO! One e-mail was from an author who was unhappy about contracts taking too long to be sent out for a new project, the other e-mail was regarding Tom Piccirilli. If we were really mistreating as many authors as this individual claimed, wouldn't they have gotten more e-mails in this inbox that they were soliciting publicly?

    All of this bad press and negative information about myself and Dark Regions Press, LLC came out of one person's mouth, and that person paid us back money that we paid him 36 days before he started bashing us publicly. He is also known to be prone to conflict and controversy, with many of his podcasts and online posts attacking other people and publishers.

    Dark Regions Press is not perfect. Sometimes we do take too long to pay our authors royalties, but it's never out of malice or ill intent. We make mistakes and have delays, but Dark Regions Press always pays our authors their due royalties and always strives to treat them with respect and kindness. Authors from Jeff Strand to Joe R. Lansdale to Ramsey Campbell who have been working with us for years will tell you the same.

    I really hope that people who read my side of the story can see that this individual who started bashing myself and Dark Regions Press publicly 36 days after he paid us back clearly had ulterior motives and was doing so largely out of vengeance. He still has public tweets slandering me personally spreading false information, and two litigation attorneys have a plethora of screenshots and evidence that can be used in a slander case against all parties involved. It is absolutely wrong to slander people or businesses publicly using false information, and the notion that we mistreat our authors, that we never paid Tom Piccirilli's wife royalties since Tom passed, that you shouldn't contact me personally because I'm difficult to work with... all of it is false but all of it has hurt our public image.

    Thanks for reading guys. Yes, I know this thread is older and it's primarily about Nocturnal Readers Box, but since there are two public podcasts bashing myself and Dark Regions Press, LLC and this thread now pops up in Google when you search my name, I thought it fair that we get a chance to respond in a public forum post. Happy to answer any questions you guys might have. Best wishes.

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    Thanks for posting this on here, Chris, and balancing the record. As it happens, I have also heard much of what you've just said confirmed by another source ...

    (oh, and IMHO Keene is a righteous hack...)

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    Thanks for reading. There's a contingent in this industry now who act in a hostile way toward me and Dark Regions Press, LLC... and every single one of them is associated with this single author who illegally slandered us out of vengeance for having to pay us back because he didn't deliver a book after nearly 4 years. It's shocking to me that anyone believes what that guy says... he spends so much of his time attacking people. We have ample evidence to move forward with a slander case. One of my former "colleagues" who is close with this author even gave him access to our private conversations and he literally copied and pasted those conversations in public social media posts (we have screenshots). Turns out that's illegal too. These people should be punished by the law, otherwise they will continue to slander people and businesses with false information.

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    Thanks for posting this on here, Chris, and balancing the record. As it happens, I have also heard much of what you've just said confirmed by another source ...

    (oh, and IMHO Keene is a righteous hack...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Morey View Post
    Thanks for reading. There's a contingent in this industry now who act in a hostile way toward me and Dark Regions Press, LLC... and every single one of them is associated with this single author who illegally slandered us out of vengeance for having to pay us back because he didn't deliver a book after nearly 4 years. It's shocking to me that anyone believes what that guy says... he spends so much of his time attacking people. We have ample evidence to move forward with a slander case. One of my former "colleagues" who is close with this author even gave him access to our private conversations and he literally copied and pasted those conversations in public social media posts (we have screenshots). Turns out that's illegal too. These people should be punished by the law, otherwise they will continue to slander people and businesses with false information.

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    Thanks for posting this on here, Chris, and balancing the record. As it happens, I have also heard much of what you've just said confirmed by another source ...

    (oh, and IMHO Keene is a righteous hack...)
    Interesting READ, but I was completely unaware of ALL of this. and I still order from you. Sometimes people need to inform, and sometimes we are just completely oblivious to all the behind scenes shenanigans.

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    Is the author that is being mentionned Brian Keene?

    As for Dark Region Press, here is something that was posted on Twitter : The Stand by Stephen King Limited Edition Hardcover Set ORDERING LIVE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by herbertwest View Post
    Is the author that is being mentioned Brian Keene?
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    Thanks for the comments. There were a lot of falsehoods and misinformation still floating around, including in this thread, so I thought it appropriate to clear the air. The notion that Dark Regions Press, LLC didn't pay Tom Piccirilli's wife royalties since he passed away is absolutely false and we can prove it via PayPal records, yet this individual spread this falsehood publicly and people believed him. That is the definition of illegal slander. He also claimed that we mistreat our authors, another falsehood that was not corroborated by any authors that we've worked with. It should be considered suspicious that the only person spreading this negative and false information about myself and Dark Regions Press was one individual, and that individual just got done paying us back 36 days earlier for a book he never delivered. It also happens to be an individual who has several podcast episodes attacking other people and publishers, and has spent a good deal of time focusing on conflicts and controversy.

    Dark Regions Press, LLC will continue to pay its authors their due royalties and I'll continue to treat the authors well both professionally and personally. Jack Ketchum and I were professional friends before his untimely passing, but if you listened to this other individual you would think we treated Jack (Dallas) horribly. Yet another falsehood from a litany of false statements made by this person.

    Thanks again for reading guys, that's all from me on this topic unless anyone has some questions. Hope all of you have a great weekend.

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    Thanks for reading. There's a contingent in this industry now who act in a hostile way toward me and Dark Regions Press, LLC... and every single one of them is associated with this single author who illegally slandered us out of vengeance for having to pay us back because he didn't deliver a book after nearly 4 years. It's shocking to me that anyone believes what that guy says... he spends so much of his time attacking people. We have ample evidence to move forward with a slander case. One of my former "colleagues" who is close with this author even gave him access to our private conversations and he literally copied and pasted those conversations in public social media posts (we have screenshots). Turns out that's illegal too. These people should be punished by the law, otherwise they will continue to slander people and businesses with false information.

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    Thanks for posting this on here, Chris, and balancing the record. As it happens, I have also heard much of what you've just said confirmed by another source ...

    (oh, and IMHO Keene is a righteous hack...)
    Interesting READ, but I was completely unaware of ALL of this. and I still order from you. Sometimes people need to inform, and sometimes we are just completely oblivious to all the behind scenes shenanigans.

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    Still waiting for my Reader's Box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ur2ndbiggestfan View Post
    Still waiting for my Reader's Box.
    Dont hold your breath.

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    Yeah, I know......sigh.
    I'm sure if there is intelligent life somewhere out there in the universe, they are wise enough to stay away from us.

    And the people bowed and prayed, to the cell phone god they made...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ur2ndbiggestfan View Post
    Still waiting for my Reader's Box.
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    Yeah, I know......sigh.
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    I paid with PayPal. I wonder if they would give me my money back.
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    And the people bowed and prayed, to the cell phone god they made...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ur2ndbiggestfan View Post
    I paid with PayPal. I wonder if they would give me my money back.
    You have six months from the date of payment to dispute a charge. It's likely too late now.
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    I sort of remember hearing somewhere that it would actually be a year or so.
    Given that Paypal now that this company has not delivered this, to hundreds or more people, maybe he can get the money.

    I'd still try it
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    Definitely contact PayPal and dispute the charges. Everyone that paid with PayPal was being refunded even if it was beyond the timeframe, I believe. Plus there's so many people that disputed with them, so it'll be know that NRB hasn't delivered product and hopefully you'll get your money back right away.
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    I looked into it, but it's such a pain in the butt or else I'm too stupid to understand how to do it (the more likely scenario), that I just gave up.
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    I didn't pay through PayPal so I'm not sure how theirs works. But is there a contact number you can call and talk to someone? Just tell them you want to dispute a charge and they should tell you how to or direct you to the right person. I did mine though my credit card, and it was super easy. I didn't need to send documentation or anything. They basically tried to contact the seller and gave the seller a chance to dispute my claim (which they obviously didn't do) so I got my money back.
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    I missed the spam, I was watching the Jeopardy tournament of champions (None of them could question the Debbie Harry FACE IT answer, ha!). I thought for a second I was going to get my money back, how disappointing!
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    Not this thread again!!!! lol Anyone ever here the resolution of that guy?

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