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    He should have called it Vegan Lesbian Lovers in Big Bad Trumpville.
    Sounds like I'll enjoy this book...

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    I guess I'm not the only one who sees politics in King's novels. I may (or may not) agree with his views, but I really liked ELEVATION, and I found it a nice tribute to Richard Matheson, whose novels, etc. I also like A LOT.

    I also liked SLEEPING BEAUTIES, which I just read a short time ago. In fact, I almost couldn't put it down, and it's not because I spilled Crazy Glue on my fingers either.

    EDIT - I do agree that LISEY'S STORY (to me) is his worst book. I can't sugarcoat it, I absolutely hated it.
    I'm sure if there is intelligent life somewhere out there in the universe, they are wise enough to stay away from us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BROWNINGS CHILDE View Post
    Just finished it. I hated it. It will go down as bottom three for me. Along with Liseys Story and Regulators. The whole book is nothing but SK forcing his political commentary down your throat, with poorly drawn, cookie-cutter cliche characters in a Matheson ripoff.
    Under The Dome is the most blatant of SK's politically driven novels. His over the top portrayal of Big Jim Rennie and Andy Sanders as caricatures of Dick Cheney and George W. Bush was unimaginative and predictable. The book should have been titled Straw Man.

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    Liseys Story was great.
    I hired Donald Trump to fire people like Yovanovitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Troy View Post
    Liseys Story was great.
    No.......................................it wasn't!!!




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    I never picked up on the politics in UTD, but I REALLY like that book. I was caught up in the story, although I gave up on the TV series after the 3rd season. Can't win 'em all, I guess.
    I just didn't like the characters in LISEY'S STORY. Especially Lisey and her husband. All the made up expressions really irritated me and I was nauseated when she ate Hamburger Helper, or whatever it was. BUT - since the book really affected me emotionally the way it did it succeeded 100% on that level.
    I also liked THE REGULATORS, although I can't recall much about it, which always makes re-reads more enjoyable.
    The King books I liked the least (which is a polite way of saying I didn't like them) are THE GIRL WHO LOVED TOM GORDON, THE COLORADO KID, THE SONG OF SUSANNAH and THE DARK TOWER. Oh yeah, didn't much care for FROM A BUICK 8 either.
    I'm sure if there is intelligent life somewhere out there in the universe, they are wise enough to stay away from us.

    And the people bowed and prayed, to the cell phone god they made...

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    I have an ELEVATION UK Review Copy for sale with the Review Letter from the Publisher.
    If anyone is interested?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BROWNINGS CHILDE View Post
    He should have called it Vegan Lesbian Lovers in Big Bad Trumpville.
    Some people cant be rational when it comes to politics - this whole weird thing about LGBTQs being discriminated against in America under trump is just utter crap.
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    I won't comment on the politics in other works, but I also quite like Lisey's Story. Being married to a woman whose first language is not English, we have a private language full of words borrowed from - or spawned from the unnatural coupling of - both languages, which only we and our son understand. King captured that perfectly in this novel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ur2ndbiggestfan View Post
    THE GIRL WHO LOVED TOM GORDON, THE COLORADO KID, THE SONG OF SUSANNAH and THE DARK TOWER. Oh yeah, didn't much care for FROM A BUICK 8 either.
    Of those, the only ones I did like were TGWLTG and DT7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Mears View Post
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    Just finished it. I hated it. It will go down as bottom three for me. Along with Liseys Story and Regulators. The whole book is nothing but SK forcing his political commentary down your throat, with poorly drawn, cookie-cutter cliche characters in a Matheson ripoff.
    Under The Dome is the most blatant of SK's politically driven novels. His over the top portrayal of Big Jim Rennie and Andy Sanders as caricatures of Dick Cheney and George W. Bush was unimaginative and predictable. The book should have been titled Straw Man.
    The politics in UTD were heavy handed, but I enjoyed the story, so it didnt really bother me. I just felt like the story was secondary to the political message, and was almost an afterthought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BROWNINGS CHILDE View Post
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    Just finished it. I hated it. It will go down as bottom three for me. Along with Liseys Story and Regulators. The whole book is nothing but SK forcing his political commentary down your throat, with poorly drawn, cookie-cutter cliche characters in a Matheson ripoff.
    Under The Dome is the most blatant of SK's politically driven novels. His over the top portrayal of Big Jim Rennie and Andy Sanders as caricatures of Dick Cheney and George W. Bush was unimaginative and predictable. The book should have been titled Straw Man.
    The politics in UTD were heavy handed, but I enjoyed the story, so it didnt really bother me. I just felt like the story was secondary to the political message, and was almost an afterthought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingfan24 View Post
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    He should have called it Vegan Lesbian Lovers in Big Bad Trumpville.
    Some people cant be rational when it comes to politics - this whole weird thing about LGBTQs being discriminated against in America under trump is just utter crap.
    Trump is already trying to stop transgender people from serving in the military for starters.

    Anyways IMO the politics in Elevation compared to UTD and Sleeping Beauties were mild beyond "Gay people are people too" which is inoffensive as you can get. It's the King equivalent of a Hallmark movie.

    If people are bothered by something as soft as this I wonder how they felt about the gay hate crime chapter in "It" or all the commentary on racism with Mike and Henry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingfan24 View Post
    Some people cant be rational when it comes to politics - this whole weird thing about LGBTQs being discriminated against in America under trump is just utter crap.

    I haven't read Elevation yet so I'm not sure of your context here but my first reaction is what the actual fuck?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberGhostface View Post
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    He should have called it Vegan Lesbian Lovers in Big Bad Trumpville.
    Some people cant be rational when it comes to politics - this whole weird thing about LGBTQs being discriminated against in America under trump is just utter crap.
    Trump is already trying to stop transgender people from serving in the military for starters.

    Anyways IMO the politics in Elevation compared to UTD and Sleeping Beauties were mild beyond "Gay people are people too" which is inoffensive as you can get. It's the King equivalent of a Hallmark movie.

    If people are bothered by something as soft as this I wonder how they felt about the gay hate crime chapter in "It" or all the commentary on racism with Mike and Henry.
    You pointed out a key difference between It and Elevation. It is an incredible book. And the politics fit not only the time of the story but also dont shove some sort of agenda in your face. I understand king has every right to use politics in his book but when he shoves it in your face its not fun as a reader and its not fun as a member of the group that supposedly has all this hate and animosity towards members of the LGBTQ community. Just because some extreme right wingers say stupid shit doesnt mean all conservatives are extremists which is what mainstream media and some liberals in general would have you believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingfan24 View Post
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    He should have called it Vegan Lesbian Lovers in Big Bad Trumpville.
    Some people cant be rational when it comes to politics - this whole weird thing about LGBTQs being discriminated against in America under trump is just utter crap.
    Trump is already trying to stop transgender people from serving in the military for starters.

    Anyways IMO the politics in Elevation compared to UTD and Sleeping Beauties were mild beyond "Gay people are people too" which is inoffensive as you can get. It's the King equivalent of a Hallmark movie.

    If people are bothered by something as soft as this I wonder how they felt about the gay hate crime chapter in "It" or all the commentary on racism with Mike and Henry.
    You pointed out a key difference between It and Elevation. It is an incredible book. And the politics fit not only the time of the story but also dont shove some sort of agenda in your face. I understand king has every right to use politics in his book but when he shoves it in your face its not fun as a reader and its not fun as a member of the group that supposedly has all this hate and animosity towards members of the LGBTQ community. Just because some extreme right wingers say stupid shit doesnt mean all conservatives are extremists which is what mainstream media and some liberals in general would have you believe.
    Not to make this too much an overtly political discussion, but I read and enjoyed Elevation and at no point did I believe that King was painting "All conservatives as extremists". He simply told a story that contained some bigoted people, this isn't new for King nor is it an attack on Trump. Outside of the context of the story, those that follow King's social media clearly know his stance on the current POTUS, but I think you're conflating the two if you believe Elevation is overtly attacking Trump, because it isn't.

    It's funny, if King happens to write about a white man who turns out to be a serial killer, there's no backlash from his readership claiming "King is painting all white men as Serial Killers!", because that isn't what he's doing, he's simply telling a story wherein a character happens to be white and a serial killer - But conversely if his story contains a visibly minority, or overtly bigoted characters, a portion of the same readership infer their own impression on what those characters represent, feel personally attacked, and are compelled to respond with; "THIS IS TOO POLITICAL, STOP CRAMMING IT DOWN OUR THROATS!" which I find patently absurd.

    Why can't it simply be a story that includes some gay people, and some people who discriminate against them as a basis for a plot device?

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    I really need to read Elevation.
    I hired Donald Trump to fire people like Yovanovitch.

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    Indeed. It's fantastic, in line with his more literary, human interest yarns with a supernatural element to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeDealInLead View Post
    Indeed. It's fantastic, in line with his more literary, human interest yarns with a supernatural element to it.
    That description sounds a bit like Lisey's Story, which I quite like but seemingly everyone else detests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Troy View Post

    That description sounds a bit like Lisey's Story, which I quite like but seemingly everyone else detests.

    I started liking Lisey's Story after I got past about the first 350 pages. That was liking running through wet cement.
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    I thought Liseys was as bad as a Koontz book..... but whatever floats your boat

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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Troy View Post
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    Indeed. It's fantastic, in line with his more literary, human interest yarns with a supernatural element to it.
    That description sounds a bit like Lisey's Story, which I quite like but seemingly everyone else detests.
    I like it too. But, according to Chad, my boat will float down to a drain where a weird clown will pull my arm off! Damn you, Chad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian861 View Post
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    Indeed. It's fantastic, in line with his more literary, human interest yarns with a supernatural element to it.
    That description sounds a bit like Lisey's Story, which I quite like but seemingly everyone else detests.
    I like it too. But, according to Chad, my boat will float down to a drain where a weird clown will pull my arm off! Damn you, Chad
    Exactly!

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