Up on his site. Went for $12,000. Man, and I thought $10,000 was a lot.
Up on his site. Went for $12,000. Man, and I thought $10,000 was a lot.
I better get mine up off of the floor then!
"One day you're going to figure out that everything they taught you was a lie."
$12K is insane. More power to them.
Good timing. I just scheduled a pickup for Friday from the bookbinder. They're all done. Will do my best to pack in a day or two at the most, and hoping to have them ready to ship by the end of next week.Originally Posted by ICry4Oy
are we there yet...
I said I was going to be that annoying little child in the back seat!
I think one thing that's notable is the overall number of bidders: 6. And at least half of them were members here! Obviously the starting bid pushed a lot of people out right away, but I would love to see how these books would do on eBay. I think many people assume that every collector knows about Betts, but that's not the case - eBay just has a much farther reach. Hence the $4050 winning bid for the numbered Misery! I think a truly public auction would realize even higher prices. Not that this wasn't a public auction, it was, in the sense that every member of the public had a right to bid, but I mean an auction that's visible or known to a greater section of the public.
I guess what I'm getting to is that I think, if anything, DRE and SE lettered editions are probably undervalued. They rarely come up for sale, and when they do a significant number of sales are private. The ones that are public are indeed available to any member of the public, but the number of collectors that are aware of them is still a fraction of the number of collectors out there. That lady paid $9000 for the IT prototype - what do you think she would have paid for the entire collection so far, and rights to future editions? (And thank you Kris for sharing that, it was really interesting! And for all I know she is the one who made the winning bid...)
Paul, major, major congratulations to you for vaulting so quickly to the top - I hope that seeing prices like these makes you feel proud!
Holey smokes!
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It's very flattering, if that's the right way to put it. I had no idea the books would become this desirable. From now on, I think I'm going to quadruple all of my prices.I think one thing that's notable is the overall number of bidders: 6. And at least half of them were members here! Obviously the starting bid pushed a lot of people out right away, but I would love to see how these books would do on eBay. I think many people assume that every collector knows about Betts, but that's not the case - eBay just has a much farther reach. Hence the $4050 winning bid for the numbered Misery! I think a truly public auction would realize even higher prices. Not that this wasn't a public auction, it was, in the sense that every member of the public had a right to bid, but I mean an auction that's visible or known to a greater section of the public.
I guess what I'm getting to is that I think, if anything, DRE and SE lettered editions are probably undervalued. They rarely come up for sale, and when they do a significant number of sales are private. The ones that are public are indeed available to any member of the public, but the number of collectors that are aware of them is still a fraction of the number of collectors out there. That lady paid $9000 for the IT prototype - what do you think she would have paid for the entire collection so far, and rights to future editions? (And thank you Kris for sharing that, it was really interesting! And for all I know she is the one who made the winning bid...)
Paul, major, major congratulations to you for vaulting so quickly to the top - I hope that seeing prices like these makes you feel proud!
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12k for a current set of Dragon Rebounds - wow!
I think the 5 books and one Portfolio I have from Paul are worth nearly as much as the rest of my collection put together!
(And I have over 50 S/L’s!!)
My children wish you many thanks Paul
"A real limited edition, far from being an expensive autograph stapled to a novel, is a treasure. And like all treasures do, it transforms the responsible owner into a caretaker, and being a caretaker of something as fragile and easily destroyed as ideas and images is not a bad thing but a good one...and so is the re-evaluation of what books are and what they do that necessarily follows." - Stephen King
IT Rebound
Really interesting and very helpful what you wrote. I thought Misery selling for $4K was circumstantial and didn’t reflect the true market value. Yet, now I think that’s exactly what it is- the true market value, based on what you’re saying. The key circumstance was that it reached a greater number of the actual size of the market.I think one thing that's notable is the overall number of bidders: 6. And at least half of them were members here! Obviously the starting bid pushed a lot of people out right away, but I would love to see how these books would do on eBay. I think many people assume that every collector knows about Betts, but that's not the case - eBay just has a much farther reach. Hence the $4050 winning bid for the numbered Misery! I think a truly public auction would realize even higher prices. Not that this wasn't a public auction, it was, in the sense that every member of the public had a right to bid, but I mean an auction that's visible or known to a greater section of the public.
I guess what I'm getting to is that I think, if anything, DRE and SE lettered editions are probably undervalued. They rarely come up for sale, and when they do a significant number of sales are private. The ones that are public are indeed available to any member of the public, but the number of collectors that are aware of them is still a fraction of the number of collectors out there. That lady paid $9000 for the IT prototype - what do you think she would have paid for the entire collection so far, and rights to future editions? (And thank you Kris for sharing that, it was really interesting! And for all I know she is the one who made the winning bid...)
Paul, major, major congratulations to you for vaulting so quickly to the top - I hope that seeing prices like these makes you feel proud!
Damn, Paul.
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Hey Lotuz.
I agree with everything you said. It's surprising that's all. It's just that those are pretty amazing prices on their own. Paul has the magic and people are beginning to see that now. For those of us that are late to the party, it just seems very impressive.
Oh I was surprised as well! But the $12k result + Kris's comment + the numbered Misery sale really got me thinking...
Happy to help...My children wish you many thanks Paul
And we're just gettin' started. I have some exciting things coming down the line over at SE! ;-)
Will we see another release in 2018?
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You know, you just might! But nothing will be announced until Misery is published and out the door.Will we see another release in 2018?
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I squeed so loud I scared our cats!
Paul should raise the price of future SE and DRB publications. Seems like he's doing the heavy lifting while others are making easy money.
Hmmmmmm. Supply and Demand. That is why the price is high. If he were to charge those prices out the gate... there would be no demand, thus those prices. What he is doing is a very cool thing and it is creating a desire for his books ensuring sell outs for years to come. What your suggesting is business suicide. Just my thoughts...Paul should raise the price of future SE and DRB publications. Seems like he's doing the heavy lifting while others are making easy money.
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I don’t want him to raise the prices either, but I’m sure he could increase them a certain amount and not commit “business suicide.” 10%-20% I doubt would limit demand enough that the next King book wouldn’t sell out in minutes.Hmmmmmm. Supply and Demand. That is why the price is high. If he were to charge those prices out the gate... there would be no demand, thus those prices. What he is doing is a very cool thing and it is creating a desire for his books ensuring sell outs for years to come. What your suggesting is business suicide. Just my thoughts...Paul should raise the price of future SE and DRB publications. Seems like he's doing the heavy lifting while others are making easy money.
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Maybe. Maybe not. CD has sold out of each of their unsigned Doubleday Years deluxe editions at $1200 per and those are not nearly the quality of the Suntup limited edition of Misery (which was issued at less than half that price) let alone the lettered edition. I'm not suggesting $4000/$12,000 for Paul's next SK limited/lettered (if there is one) but I do think the ceiling is higher for SK titles if he continues to produce at the quality level that has been established.What your suggesting is business suicide.Paul should raise the price of future SE and DRB publications. Seems like he's doing the heavy lifting while others are making easy money.
I agree. That isn't much at all. BUT he isn't going to be doing only King books. They would sell easy at 25% more. No question. But if you started charging $10-12K for every 26 letters and $4000 for a number. You have seriously limited the buying pool.I don’t want him to raise the prices either, but I’m sure he could increase them a certain amount and not commit “business suicide.” 10%-20% I doubt would limit demand enough that the next King book wouldn’t sell out in minutes.Hmmmmmm. Supply and Demand. That is why the price is high. If he were to charge those prices out the gate... there would be no demand, thus those prices. What he is doing is a very cool thing and it is creating a desire for his books ensuring sell outs for years to come. What your suggesting is business suicide. Just my thoughts...Paul should raise the price of future SE and DRB publications. Seems like he's doing the heavy lifting while others are making easy money.
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Paul could clearly charge a premium for SK books if he chose to do so but not for non-SK books.I agree. That isn't much at all. BUT he isn't going to be doing only King books. They would sell easy at 25% more. No question. But if you started charging $10-12K for every 26 letters and $4000 for a number. You have seriously limited the buying pool.I don’t want him to raise the prices either, but I’m sure he could increase them a certain amount and not commit “business suicide.” 10%-20% I doubt would limit demand enough that the next King book wouldn’t sell out in minutes.Hmmmmmm. Supply and Demand. That is why the price is high. If he were to charge those prices out the gate... there would be no demand, thus those prices. What he is doing is a very cool thing and it is creating a desire for his books ensuring sell outs for years to come. What your suggesting is business suicide. Just my thoughts...Paul should raise the price of future SE and DRB publications. Seems like he's doing the heavy lifting while others are making easy money.
I agree. I said that... but not the prices we are seeing. Like I said, not everyone can afford $12K for a book. Those prices are due to supply and demand.Paul could clearly charge a premium for SK books if he chose to do so but not for non-SK books.I agree. That isn't much at all. BUT he isn't going to be doing only King books. They would sell easy at 25% more. No question. But if you started charging $10-12K for every 26 letters and $4000 for a number. You have seriously limited the buying pool.I don’t want him to raise the prices either, but I’m sure he could increase them a certain amount and not commit “business suicide.” 10%-20% I doubt would limit demand enough that the next King book wouldn’t sell out in minutes.Hmmmmmm. Supply and Demand. That is why the price is high. If he were to charge those prices out the gate... there would be no demand, thus those prices. What he is doing is a very cool thing and it is creating a desire for his books ensuring sell outs for years to come. What your suggesting is business suicide. Just my thoughts...Paul should raise the price of future SE and DRB publications. Seems like he's doing the heavy lifting while others are making easy money.
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I specifically indicated in my initial response that there isn't a market for $4000/$12,000 SK limited/lettered editions but there is likely a higher ceiling than what Misery was offered at. Maximizing the revenue on any future SK offerings will help Paul seed his non-SK titles.I agree. I said that... but not the prices we are seeing. Like I said, not everyone can afford $12K for a book. Those prices are due to supply and demand.Paul could clearly charge a premium for SK books if he chose to do so but not for non-SK books.I agree. That isn't much at all. BUT he isn't going to be doing only King books. They would sell easy at 25% more. No question. But if you started charging $10-12K for every 26 letters and $4000 for a number. You have seriously limited the buying pool.I don’t want him to raise the prices either, but I’m sure he could increase them a certain amount and not commit “business suicide.” 10%-20% I doubt would limit demand enough that the next King book wouldn’t sell out in minutes.Hmmmmmm. Supply and Demand. That is why the price is high. If he were to charge those prices out the gate... there would be no demand, thus those prices. What he is doing is a very cool thing and it is creating a desire for his books ensuring sell outs for years to come. What your suggesting is business suicide. Just my thoughts...Paul should raise the price of future SE and DRB publications. Seems like he's doing the heavy lifting while others are making easy money.
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