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    Does that Mausoleum take payments from the Afterlife?
    You can talk with one of our Suntup Estate Planners!
    That could actually be a thing with the value of DR and Suntup editions.

    I told a friend about Misery S/L Numbered going for $4050 and the Rebounds/Portfolio/Paperweight going for $12000.

    She said, "Well, you could use $16,000."

    She's right. I could. And perhaps an estate planner.
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    ICYMI....

    I've listed a Stephen King Misery Artist Gift Edition by Suntup Editions Signed by Rick Berry on eBay.

    One bid of $199. One recently sold by a member for $250 and one for $310.

    Auction ends tonight at seven on the west coast and ten on the east. I'll cover shipping for site members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian861 View Post
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    Any chance you will drop us hints like you did for Misery and Haunting of Hill House?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarface View Post
    Any chance you will drop us hints like you did for Misery and Haunting of Hill House?
    Absolutely!

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    Hey Paul, is misery still slated for an 8/8/18 publication date?
    Looking for:
    - Philtrum Press Eyes of the Dragon RED #165
    - Fine Viking Eyes of the Dragon proof

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    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey66 View Post
    Hey Paul, is misery still slated for an 8/8/18 publication date?
    We’re posting an official update on this in the week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarface View Post
    Any chance you will drop us hints like you did for Misery and Haunting of Hill House?
    I'm not speaking for Paul, BUT the rumor mill says that fans of Danielle Steel's children's books will be very happy!

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    If I purchase a copy of Haunting of Hill House aftermarket, will that guarantee my spot for your next book, Paul? That stuff got so confusing and I wasn't really in the game at the time to pay enough attention. If so, if anyone is selling, I'm looking to buy if we can come to an agreement. Please PM me. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian861 View Post
    If so, if anyone is selling, I'm looking to buy if we can come to an agreement. Please PM me. Thanks!
    Are they still valued at list price?
    Looking for Mister Slaughter S/L #78

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father Cody View Post
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    If so, if anyone is selling, I'm looking to buy if we can come to an agreement. Please PM me. Thanks!
    Are they still valued at list price?
    I haven't seen anyone selling their preorder.

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    Brain, I know it's confusing but if my conversations with Paul are correct, you will have first rights to the next Non-King book but not the next King book. You would need Misery for that. I don't know what the
    worth would be though for Haunting of Hill house is now. Unless Paul makes more then what he did for Misery, or people who bought Misery do not buy the next King book (assuming there is one) then people might have a shot. But I don't know if you would need Hill house for that.
    I am sure Paul will correct me if I got anything wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian861 View Post
    If I purchase a copy of Haunting of Hill House aftermarket, will that guarantee my spot for your next book, Paul? That stuff got so confusing and I wasn't really in the game at the time to pay enough attention. If so, if anyone is selling, I'm looking to buy if we can come to an agreement. Please PM me. Thanks!
    I think if you purchase the copy during the preorder phase, then I'd bet the right to that number (for the future non-King books) would be part of what you're buying. But I guess that would be up to the seller.

    After the book is published and out in the wild, I wouldn't expect the right to that number.

    I'll hang up and listen for Paul's response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian James Freeman View Post
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    Any chance you will drop us hints like you did for Misery and Haunting of Hill House?
    I'm not speaking for Paul, BUT the rumor mill says that fans of Danielle Steel's children's books will be very happy!

    So hard to keep a secret these days.

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    Hey Paul, just sent you an email, but your Suntup site seems to be down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian861 View Post
    If I purchase a copy of Haunting of Hill House aftermarket, will that guarantee my spot for your next book, Paul? That stuff got so confusing and I wasn't really in the game at the time to pay enough attention. If so, if anyone is selling, I'm looking to buy if we can come to an agreement. Please PM me. Thanks!
    Hey Brian. If you purchase a book aftermarket before it is released, yourself and the seller would need to fill out and send in the 'Transfer of Ownership' form. There's a link to it in the footer of suntup.press called "Support". Then yes, rights to future non-King are transferred to the new owner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeDuke View Post
    Hey Paul, just sent you an email, but your Suntup site seems to be down.
    Fixed. A security plugin malfunctioned. Bah.

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    I kept an extra letter of Haunting as from what I have seen coming from Paul.. the next is gonna be earth shattering....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
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    If so, if anyone is selling, I'm looking to buy if we can come to an agreement. Please PM me. Thanks!
    Are they still valued at list price?
    I haven't seen anyone selling their preorder.
    I'm curious to see how a non-King Suntup will do on the secondary market. Given

    (a) that it sold out quickly
    (b) that the limitation is rather small
    (c) that it comes with future non-King rights

    I expect it to do pretty well!

    And the combination of those three things is pretty important, too. I could be wrong, but I can't imagine that Paul's distribution list is as big as Sub Press, Cemetery Dance, or Centipede Press, who have all been amassing emails for more than a decade. Yet the two titles so far have sold as well as a very good performing title from each of those publishers would have. Part of that has to do with the generally smaller limitation (185 vs 300+), and part has to do with the sheer number of titles that each of those presses puts out each year compared to the 2-3 Suntup Editions we'll see in 2018.

    But what I really think is going on is that a small group of collectors (including a number of people on these forums) are all-in on Suntup and plan to keep purchasing matching titles. And some of those people missed out on Misery and then Hill House and are looking to get in now. So the rights alone will probably drive up the price of the earliest books - the opportunity to secure a number/letter this early in the life of a fine press is a rare event.

    And last but not least, the books are worth it. I like Sub Press a lot, but their books are all very similarly produced: nice paper, better-than-average binding, some new jacket art, and a limitation page. Yet I am still surprised by some of the prices out there on the secondary market. They have a lot to do with scarcity, rather than the particular qualities of each book. The exception to this is when they go all out for a lettered and do something unique or different (think Smoke & Mirrors or the recent Stories of Your Life and Others). Those books command an even bigger premium because collectors rightly see them as more special than their standard lettereds. And both of Paul's productions are carefully crafted in this same way.

    There are a subset of collectors that are interested in books as objects of art, and will seek out the most creatively made editions. Suntup Editions is enormously appealing to that market. To make another comparison, Charnel House is a publisher for people who appreciate books as art. Joe Stefko makes no bones about it when discussing his target market - if you're not willing to pay $1000 for a book, he's happy not to sell you one. And you can tell by looking at a shelf stocked with Charnel House books - they are different sizes and shapes and materials and bindings. They don't have the uniformity of a shelf of Sub Press books because each book is approached as a separate and independent work. And Suntup Editions looks to be the same in that regard. I think Suntup Editions even has a leg up now, judging from the choice of Hill House. Charnel House is mostly a vehicle for the works of Tim Powers and Dean Koontz, which limits the appeal to some collectors. If Suntup Editions continues to plumb into the horror cannon, or even branch out further, then any single book will have a larger collector base and more individuals competing for it, beyond just those who are trying to get in early so that they can have matching sets. Which of course will keep prices on the secondary market up, up, up.

    Wow - that was a lot more words than I had originally planned to write, but it all supports my thesis: if anything, Suntup Editions books are probably undervalued right now (I know that sounds crazy but I think I made the point in an earlier post about the very limited audience that DRE and SE auctions have reached, despite being public auctions). It will be very interesting to watch the secondary market for these, especially in the coming months, as the actual books are released and people can hold them in their hands and take flattering pictures and point to the rave reviews. From what I can tell, DRE prices really took off around the publication of Firestarter, when people had physical evidence that there was really something special happening.

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    A lovely new update today!

    I tell ya, and I mean no disrespect at all to other publishers, it's going to be weird getting a book around the date it was promised

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelig View Post
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    If I purchase a copy of Haunting of Hill House aftermarket, will that guarantee my spot for your next book, Paul? That stuff got so confusing and I wasn't really in the game at the time to pay enough attention. If so, if anyone is selling, I'm looking to buy if we can come to an agreement. Please PM me. Thanks!
    Hey Brian. If you purchase a book aftermarket before it is released, yourself and the seller would need to fill out and send in the 'Transfer of Ownership' form. There's a link to it in the footer of suntup.press called "Support". Then yes, rights to future non-King are transferred to the new owner.
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    Well, I missed out on Misery, but I got Hill House. I have no idea what is coming next but if it's a non-King book that I know I can get already, it is going to be bought by me.

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    I am also an owner of the lettered Hill House but do not have Misery or the Portfolio. If one of the lettered Misery owners who did not order Hill House is reading this, please send me a PM if you are interested in selling.

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    I am just wondering when the announcement will be. And when the ordering will take place. I hope there is some space. Like we don't have to order next week. But if we do, we do. I am
    not missing out on the next one if I am able to get it.

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    Has Paul stated why Hill House had no gift edition? Specifically, I wonder if future non-King books will have gift editions (as I'm rather counting on that).
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