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    Ugh, now waiting for mine stuck in customs is even more agonizing THANKS for those beautiful pictures
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    Quote Originally Posted by PennyUnwise View Post
    That looks great! Must say though, feel bad for the person on eBay paying over $350 for the numbered when they are still available on the site in abundance.
    I always feel I should call people out on that, but then I always end up thinking that any self respecting collector / buyer checks the original publisher first before buying on second market... I guess this will be an eternal internal struggle for me ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiceM View Post
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    That looks great! Must say though, feel bad for the person on eBay paying over $350 for the numbered when they are still available on the site in abundance.
    I always feel I should call people out on that, but then I always end up thinking that any self respecting collector / buyer checks the original publisher first before buying on second market... I guess this will be an eternal internal struggle for me ...
    The onus is on the buyer. Always do your research before buying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe315 View Post
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    That looks great! Must say though, feel bad for the person on eBay paying over $350 for the numbered when they are still available on the site in abundance.
    I always feel I should call people out on that, but then I always end up thinking that any self respecting collector / buyer checks the original publisher first before buying on second market... I guess this will be an eternal internal struggle for me ...
    The onus is on the buyer. Always do your research before buying.
    I guess... but the gullible, the impulsive and the unknowing need some form of protection no?
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    Sure. There are return policies and fraud protection. But of the seller isnít doing anything illegal and they find someone that is willing to spend more good on them. Look at very fine books. They have buyers that pay well over market and are very willing to do so.

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    I tend to agree, but I also think ďcaveat emptorĒ has limits. I think the seller is responsible for the accuracy of the listing, including whether something is signed and by whom, what number it is, any condition problems, etc. In short, they need to be honest and complete about what they are selling. But, given that, a seller can list an item for whatever price they want.

    In this case I donít think the seller is doing anything wrong.
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    Yeah itís one thing to see the people pay way more than they need to. But I would also much rather see Paul get the sales. Maybe the buyers on eBay are gunning for a real number below 250, knowing they canít match anything over 250.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
    Yeah itís one thing to see the people pay way more than they need to. But I would also much rather see Paul get the sales. Maybe the buyers on eBay are gunning for a real number below 250, knowing they canít match anything over 250.


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    Yeah its a bummer the publisher is missing on the sale. Copy going for over $350 is #208 too. And I agree the seller isn't doing anything wrong, just feel bad for buyer/publisher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PennyUnwise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
    Yeah itís one thing to see the people pay way more than they need to. But I would also much rather see Paul get the sales. Maybe the buyers on eBay are gunning for a real number below 250, knowing they canít match anything over 250.


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    Yeah its a bummer the publisher is missing on the sale. Copy going for over $350 is #208 too.
    Yeah. And if the buyer is hunting a real number then they can request 208 in the next numbered offered for sale and hope to begin a matching set of Suntups. Otherwise it makes no sense to pay $80 more for a book Paul could send brand new.

    But caveat emptor and all that. Itís still fun to watch that secondary.


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    Isnít 208 Kingfan2323 here??!


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    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
    Isnít 208 Kingfan2323 here??!


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    It is him. Kind of a shitty thing to not disclose.


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    I admit I don't watch the Suntup videos or follow them on Facebook, but I notice on the site there is a lock on the first picture of BROTHER. Is this included with the lettered edition? If it's just something to do with the story PLEASE don't tell me what it is as I have not read the book yet, I just want to know if this was part of the lettered package because it looks kind of cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ur2ndbiggestfan View Post
    I admit I don't watch the Suntup videos or follow them on Facebook, but I notice on the site there is a lock on the first picture of BROTHER. Is this included with the lettered edition? If it's just something to do with the story PLEASE don't tell me what it is as I have not read the book yet, I just want to know if this was part of the lettered package because it looks kind of cool.
    It is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
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    It is him. Kind of a shitty thing to not disclose.
    What is a shitty thing to not disclose? That it is still available from the publisher? He listed a book ~$50 above the cost to purchase it. Someone bid on it. Capitalism at it's finest! /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
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    Isnít 208 Kingfan2323 here??!


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    It is him. Kind of a shitty thing to not disclose.


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    Why? Nothing about his listing is misleading. Do the research. It is very easy to google. Maybe the buyer wants 208 to have a foot in the door of other releases.

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    Isnít 208 Kingfan2323 here??!


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    It is him. Kind of a shitty thing to not disclose.


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    Why? Nothing about his listing is misleading. Do the research. It is very easy to google. Maybe the buyer wants 208 to have a foot in the door of other releases.
    Brother is not the last release.... And yes Brian.... it is the way.


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    Ummm. . . I am so lost.

    Last thing I want to do is come off bad on here. Can you help me out with what I did wrong? I paid $314.31 total for my copy of Brother (I had to make payments so paid more) I marked it up 13% to cover Ebay fees (they are probably higher now for all I know). I was the first copy of Brother on Ebay and someone bid. So I am making zero profit actually. After everything is said and done losing a few bucks actually.

    Confused but want to make it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingfan2323 View Post
    Ummm. . . I am so lost.

    Last thing I want to do is come off bad on here. Can you help me out with what I did wrong? I paid $314.31 total for my copy of Brother (I had to make payments so paid more) I marked it up 13% to cover Ebay fees. I was the first copy of Brother on Ebay and someone bid. So I am making zero profit actually. After everything is said and done losing a few bucks actually.

    Confused but want to make it right.

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    Makes sense man. Sorry brother!


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    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
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    Ummm. . . I am so lost.

    Last thing I want to do is come off bad on here. Can you help me out with what I did wrong? I paid $314.31 total for my copy of Brother (I had to make payments so paid more) I marked it up 13% to cover Ebay fees. I was the first copy of Brother on Ebay and someone bid. So I am making zero profit actually. After everything is said and done losing a few bucks actually.

    Confused but want to make it right.

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    Makes sense man. Sorry brother!


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    Thanks for saying that, Kris.

    Hope that is good clarification, Jeffingoff and Pennyunwise. If you need more clarification please feel free to let me know. So yeah. . . zero profit And I am also confused because in the decades of collecting I have never once seen a book sell on the secondary market mention (or "disclose") whether they are still available from the publisher.

    Collecting is a small world so hope this clarifies things.

    P.S - I do not think I have made a profit on a book (King or Otherwise) Ever. Usually lose money. So there is that. Ha!

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    Ummm. . . I am so lost.

    Last thing I want to do is come off bad on here. Can you help me out with what I did wrong? I paid $314.31 total for my copy of Brother (I had to make payments so paid more) I marked it up 13% to cover Ebay fees. I was the first copy of Brother on Ebay and someone bid. So I am making zero profit actually. After everything is said and done losing a few bucks actually.

    Confused but want to make it right.

    Thanks;

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    Makes sense man. Sorry brother!


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    Thanks for saying that, Kris.

    Hope that is good clarification, Jeffingoff and Pennyunwise. If you need more clarification please feel free to let me know. So yeah. . . zero profit And I am also confused because in the decades of collecting I have never once seen a book sell on the secondary market mention (or "disclose") whether they are still available from the publisher.

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    I have no problem with you! Sorry if you thought so. I fully understand getting money back. I just feel unfortunate for the publisher on missing a sale, and the buyer spending extra cash.
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    Ummm. . . I am so lost.

    Last thing I want to do is come off bad on here. Can you help me out with what I did wrong? I paid $314.31 total for my copy of Brother (I had to make payments so paid more) I marked it up 13% to cover Ebay fees. I was the first copy of Brother on Ebay and someone bid. So I am making zero profit actually. After everything is said and done losing a few bucks actually.

    Confused but want to make it right.

    Thanks;

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    Makes sense man. Sorry brother!


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    Thanks for saying that, Kris.

    Hope that is good clarification, Jeffingoff and Pennyunwise. If you need more clarification please feel free to let me know. So yeah. . . zero profit And I am also confused because in the decades of collecting I have never once seen a book sell on the secondary market mention (or "disclose") whether they are still available from the publisher.

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    I have no problem with you! Sorry if you thought so. I fully understand getting money back. I just feel unfortunate for the publisher on missing a sale, and the buyer spending extra cash.
    I gotcha. No problem. Publisher did not miss the sale. I bought it from them. So balance is achieved. Ha!

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    Ummm. . . I am so lost.

    Last thing I want to do is come off bad on here. Can you help me out with what I did wrong? I paid $314.31 total for my copy of Brother (I had to make payments so paid more) I marked it up 13% to cover Ebay fees. I was the first copy of Brother on Ebay and someone bid. So I am making zero profit actually. After everything is said and done losing a few bucks actually.

    Confused but want to make it right.

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    Makes sense man. Sorry brother!


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    Thanks for saying that, Kris.

    Hope that is good clarification, Jeffingoff and Pennyunwise. If you need more clarification please feel free to let me know. So yeah. . . zero profit And I am also confused because in the decades of collecting I have never once seen a book sell on the secondary market mention (or "disclose") whether they are still available from the publisher.

    Collecting is a small world so hope this clarifies things.

    P.S - I do not think I have made a profit on a book (King or Otherwise) Ever. Usually lose money. So there is that. Ha!

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    Like Penny Unwise, I have no problem with your listing or your asking price. None at all. I was merely looking at things from the perspective of the buyer. With a copy readily available from Suntup, I don't understand why anyone would jump to eBay in search of dank Suntup goodness. Especially if it's for more than the published price. I was wondering if it had anything to do with the search for a real number.

    I was also looking at it from my perspective as a collector and fan of Suntup. I'd like to see Paul sell out his inventory so that money can go back into fueling the Suntup engine which will produce the best books out there.

    But I totally respect and understand your position and really, you can ask whatever you want for whatever you sell. If you asked $800 and got $800 then that's between you and the buyer. I will say as someone who already has the book in hand, I don't mind anything that appears to drive up the value of the book. So there's that.

    I hope your auction goes smoothly and the buyer is pleased.

    EDIT--I realize my continued reference to "real number" can seem to disregard the very real numbers between 251 and 500. I mean no offense to Paul or anyone who bought books with those numbers. My "real number" remark is simply shorthand for the numbers that are in the majority of the Suntup print runs (1-250).

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    Ummm. . . I am so lost.

    Last thing I want to do is come off bad on here. Can you help me out with what I did wrong? I paid $314.31 total for my copy of Brother (I had to make payments so paid more) I marked it up 13% to cover Ebay fees. I was the first copy of Brother on Ebay and someone bid. So I am making zero profit actually. After everything is said and done losing a few bucks actually.

    Confused but want to make it right.

    Thanks;

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    Makes sense man. Sorry brother!


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    Thanks for saying that, Kris.

    Hope that is good clarification, Jeffingoff and Pennyunwise. If you need more clarification please feel free to let me know. So yeah. . . zero profit And I am also confused because in the decades of collecting I have never once seen a book sell on the secondary market mention (or "disclose") whether they are still available from the publisher.

    Collecting is a small world so hope this clarifies things.

    P.S - I do not think I have made a profit on a book (King or Otherwise) Ever. Usually lose money. So there is that. Ha!

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    I feel your pain. Even if I buy straight from Suntup. I get charged 9.5% sales tax. I'd have to sell that book on Ebay for at least 25 to 30% over retail to break even.

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    Ummm. . . I am so lost.

    Last thing I want to do is come off bad on here. Can you help me out with what I did wrong? I paid $314.31 total for my copy of Brother (I had to make payments so paid more) I marked it up 13% to cover Ebay fees. I was the first copy of Brother on Ebay and someone bid. So I am making zero profit actually. After everything is said and done losing a few bucks actually.

    Confused but want to make it right.

    Thanks;

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    Makes sense man. Sorry brother!


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    Thanks for saying that, Kris.

    Hope that is good clarification, Jeffingoff and Pennyunwise. If you need more clarification please feel free to let me know. So yeah. . . zero profit And I am also confused because in the decades of collecting I have never once seen a book sell on the secondary market mention (or "disclose") whether they are still available from the publisher.

    Collecting is a small world so hope this clarifies things.

    P.S - I do not think I have made a profit on a book (King or Otherwise) Ever. Usually lose money. So there is that. Ha!

    seeking: anything DT#246, Strange Weather (CD)
    Like Penny Unwise, I have no problem with your listing or your asking price. None at all. I was merely looking at things from the perspective of the buyer. With a copy readily available from Suntup, I don't understand why anyone would jump to eBay in search of dank Suntup goodness. Especially if it's for more than the published price. I was wondering if it had anything to do with the search for a real number.

    I was also looking at it from my perspective as a collector and fan of Suntup. I'd like to see Paul sell out his inventory so that money can go back into fueling the Suntup engine which will produce the best books out there.

    But I totally respect and understand your position and really, you can ask whatever you want for whatever you sell. If you asked $800 and got $800 then that's between you and the buyer. I will say as someone who already has the book in hand, I don't mind anything that appears to drive up the value of the book. So there's that.

    I hope your auction goes smoothly and the buyer is pleased.
    On a serious note: First of all . . .I finally watched your videos AND they are great! Shell shock from other awful unboxing videos kept me away. Officially hooked. Ha!

    Second of all. . . I am getting my money back on Brother to spend it (plus way more) on Suntup. And. . . Brother will sell out at the publisher. So we are all good there.

    seeking: anything DT#246, Strange Weather (CD)
    ANYTHING DT Related #246
    Dead Zone First Edition F/F or NF/NF

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