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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian861 View Post
    Did Stranger Things Season 3 never come about? Or did I sleep through it?
    They just wrapped production - S3 airing 2019 Iím pretty sure. Or maybe itís out and only you and me are in the upside down

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    Did Stranger Things Season 3 never come about? Or did I sleep through it?
    They just wrapped production - S3 airing 2019 Iím pretty sure. Or maybe itís out and only you and me are in the upside down
    Very well could be
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl of Popkin View Post
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    Did Stranger Things Season 3 never come about? Or did I sleep through it?
    They just wrapped production - S3 airing 2019 Iím pretty sure. Or maybe itís out and only you and me are in the upside down
    Perhaps next summer.

    It's the end of the world as we know it.
    And I feel fine.


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    Talk about a flashback.
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    So accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky View Post
    So accurate.
    Yup! Pretty much. Just throwing money at everything. I truly don't know how they do it.

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    On an Excitement Level scale I'm a solid 11 for Bird Box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeDealInLead View Post
    On an Excitement Level scale I'm a solid 11 for Bird Box.
    Have never read the book but I'm looking forward to it as well. Bullock is a favorite of mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian861 View Post
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    On an Excitement Level scale I'm a solid 11 for Bird Box.
    Have never read the book but I'm looking forward to it as well. Bullock is a favorite of mine.
    I'm looking forward to it as well. It's getting mixed early reviews though.

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    I was really excited about it until I started hearing all this bad stuff about it. Now I'm a little worried but I'll still be watching it right away. I haven't read the book in years though, so maybe that will be a good thing.
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    We had this discussion in another thread, but I'm endlessly fascinated by Netflix and its structure. Netflix has been historically tight-lipped about their streaming analytics, except when it serves them. They recently revealed how well Bird Box has done. It made me start to wonder if Netflix is sometimes shooting themselves in the foot by not releasing their films in more theaters.

    If Bird Box was in theaters, the argument could be made that it would have made Netflix millions of dollars. In 2019, possibly the biggest film Netflix has ever produced will be released and that is the Martin Scorsese film The Irishman. The film has a reported budget of 125 million bucks. It's still a mystery to me how Netflix will make back their money on a property like that without releasing it in a decent amount of theaters.

    This post is not meant to bash Netflix and their streaming strategy. In fact, I think what Netflix is doing with their original films is incredibly important and will continue to be so as movie theaters and their audience continue to change. Without Netflix, films like Apostle, Hold the Dark, and this year's Oscar front runner, Roma would be almost impossible to see. Theaters are less and less likely to show films of that nature. As a platform to provide audiences with smaller, more artistic (sometimes odd) films, I think Netflix might just be a godsend. If I were them, I would seriously reconsider the amount of theaters certain films get shown in.

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    I have zero hard data but have heard that the Distribution costs that theatres are being forced to pay recently for blockbusters has gotten to pretty obnoxious levels. Netflix can avoid a sizable chunk of those costs (for now), so thereís probably a fancy spreadsheet somewhere in their offices that says the opportunity cost of neglecting the big screen is about equal to the additional dist costs theyíd incur by partnering with theatres. And also thereís probably a whole bunch of lawyers somewhere trying to figure out how to build a Netflix Theatre Cineplex thatís somehow exempt from previously mentioned obnoxious costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl of Popkin View Post
    I have zero hard data but have heard that the Distribution costs that theatres are being forced to pay recently for blockbusters has gotten to pretty obnoxious levels. Netflix can avoid a sizable chunk of those costs (for now), so thereís probably a fancy spreadsheet somewhere in their offices that says the opportunity cost of neglecting the big screen is about equal to the additional dist costs theyíd incur by partnering with theatres. And also thereís probably a whole bunch of lawyers somewhere trying to figure out how to build a Netflix Theatre Cineplex thatís somehow exempt from previously mentioned obnoxious costs.
    I'm sure you're on the right track there.

    I still think it's flawed, at least from my very basic assessment. How many people went out and subscribed to Netflix because they wanted to watch Bird Box? My guess is it's not many. The reason? Everyone I know already has Netflix. Some pay for it. Most are using someone else's subscription. Bird Box didn't have much of a budget, but for some of those films it seems reckless. Actually, what's even crazier is the money Netflix is shelling out to comedians for their specials. I don't know how they will make back the 40 mil they paid Chris Rock for his specials. I don't know one person that is going to subscribe to Netflix to watch a comedy special.

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    I agree that it sure seems like they spend insane amounts of money. At some point theyíll hafta calm down. Most likely after Disney+ and a few other big boys hit their stride

    The comedian thing is more about casting a net for talent that evolves into production deals. They know theyíre gonna get saddled with some real dud specials along the way, but they will also get someone like Bill Burr who was a big comic but after he put his specials on Netflix he became huge. Then they let him make F is for Family and it of course is released by Netflix under most likely favorable terms on their behalf. Seinfeld, Chappelle, Rock. If any of them have a new show, itís gonna be on Netflix. Hopefully the next gen of Comic Jedis are one of the many minnows theyíre currently nurturing and the cycle repeats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl of Popkin View Post
    I agree that it sure seems like they spend insane amounts of money. At some point theyíll hafta calm down. Most likely after Disney+ and a few other big boys hit their stride

    The comedian thing is more about casting a net for talent that evolves into production deals. They know theyíre gonna get saddled with some real dud specials along the way, but they will also get someone like Bill Burr who was a big comic but after he put his specials on Netflix he became huge. Then they let him make F is for Family and it of course is released by Netflix under most likely favorable terms on their behalf. Seinfeld, Chappelle, Rock. If any of them have a new show, itís gonna be on Netflix. Hopefully the next gen of Comic Jedis are one of the many minnows theyíre currently nurturing and the cycle repeats.
    That's a good point. It's kind of a good way for them to get in on the ground level of a lot of talent.

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    Iíll tell ya though.... some of the movies coming and tv shows are just unreal. I mean have you all seen the Polar trailer?!!! Better and better content. Thatís what will make more subscribing paying people. I know at least 4 people personally that signed up just cause of the Bird Box hype.


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    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
    Iíll tell ya though.... some of the movies coming and tv shows are just unreal. I mean have you all seen the Polar trailer?!!! Better and better content. Thatís what will make more subscribing paying people. I know at least 4 people personally that signed up just cause of the Bird Box hype.
    Where are you finding people that still don't have Netflix? It's been years since I met someone who didn't have Netflix. It's also kind of sad that people are signing up for Bird Box. It's such an average film. I think a lot of people are going to wonder what the big deal is. People should be signing up for Roma if anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Servant View Post
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    Iíll tell ya though.... some of the movies coming and tv shows are just unreal. I mean have you all seen the Polar trailer?!!! Better and better content. Thatís what will make more subscribing paying people. I know at least 4 people personally that signed up just cause of the Bird Box hype.
    Where are you finding people that still don't have Netflix? It's been years since I met someone who didn't have Netflix. It's also kind of sad that people are signing up for Bird Box. It's such an average film. I think a lot of people are going to wonder what the big deal is. People should be signing up for Roma if anything.
    Bird Box is clearly not an average film man... that many views says it isn't. Sorry, I loved it.
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    It's funny, because I was very reluctant to join Netflix, and only finally caved when Blockbuster shut down (I rented DVDs by mail through Blockbuster and Netflix was the only possible substitute). I very much wanted to avoid streaming (as opposed to DVDs) because I didn't trust the technology (or my internet connection) and since I already knew how to operate DVDs (ha), I saw no reason to reinvent the wheel.

    Now, as the years have gone by, Netflix has blown me (all of us) away with their original content. I don't want to have to subscribe to dozens of services (and will likely miss out on CBS All Access' The Stand adaptation because of this), but I can't imagine being without Netflix.
    That is not the good kind of "thick."

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    Iíll tell ya though.... some of the movies coming and tv shows are just unreal. I mean have you all seen the Polar trailer?!!! Better and better content. Thatís what will make more subscribing paying people. I know at least 4 people personally that signed up just cause of the Bird Box hype.
    Where are you finding people that still don't have Netflix? It's been years since I met someone who didn't have Netflix. It's also kind of sad that people are signing up for Bird Box. It's such an average film. I think a lot of people are going to wonder what the big deal is. People should be signing up for Roma if anything.
    Bird Box is clearly not an average film man... that many views says it isn't. Sorry, I loved it.
    A lot of views says it's been watched by a lot of people. It says nothing about its quality. Anybody who thinks it's better than something like A Quiet Place has to reconsider their taste in film.

    Like I said, I enjoyed the film, but there's a lot of issues I had with it.
    • The biggest issue with the film and I'm not sure why people don't understand this, is the structure. By showing Sandy B and the kids in the boat at the beginning, you completely remove the suspense from the film. You know she lives. You know she and the kids make it out of the house alive. Therefore, she and the children are never in peril, thus removing much of the suspense from the film.
    • Wind isn't scary. I need to see what you're seeing in order to truly be terrified. Otherwise, I'm going to use my imagination and I see a pink bunny wearing overalls.
    • The rules aren't clear. Why can't it penetrate walls? Why can't it get into cars? Why can they infiltrate your mind and imitate voices? Do they even have physical form, or are people just imagining them being there?
    • So, crazy people aren't made suicidal, they just become huge fanboys of these things? Who defines crazy? Where do you draw the line? Is it just mental patients and serial killers? What about people who wear socks with sandals? That's some crazy shit

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    Iíll tell ya though.... some of the movies coming and tv shows are just unreal. I mean have you all seen the Polar trailer?!!! Better and better content. Thatís what will make more subscribing paying people. I know at least 4 people personally that signed up just cause of the Bird Box hype.
    Where are you finding people that still don't have Netflix? It's been years since I met someone who didn't have Netflix. It's also kind of sad that people are signing up for Bird Box. It's such an average film. I think a lot of people are going to wonder what the big deal is. People should be signing up for Roma if anything.
    Bird Box is clearly not an average film man... that many views says it isn't. Sorry, I loved it.
    A lot of views says it's been watched by a lot of people. It says nothing about its quality. Anybody who thinks it's better than something like A Quiet Place has to reconsider their taste in film.

    Like I said, I enjoyed the film, but there's a lot of issues I had with it.
    • The biggest issue with the film and I'm not sure why people don't understand this, is the structure. By showing Sandy B and the kids in the boat at the beginning, you completely remove the suspense from the film. You know she lives. You know she and the kids make it out of the house alive. Therefore, she and the children are never in peril, thus removing much of the suspense from the film.
    • Wind isn't scary. I need to see what you're seeing in order to truly be terrified. Otherwise, I'm going to use my imagination and I see a pink bunny wearing overalls.
    • The rules aren't clear. Why can't it penetrate walls? Why can't it get into cars? Why can they infiltrate your mind and imitate voices? Do they even have physical form, or are people just imagining them being there?
    • So, crazy people aren't made suicidal, they just become huge fanboys of these things? Who defines crazy? Where do you draw the line? Is it just mental patients and serial killers? What about people who wear socks with sandals? That's some crazy shit
    Yes watched by a lot of people. Why? Because people loved it. Why is that? Cause it was GOOD. As for your issues? I liked the way it was down other than the woods part at the end. The whispers and shit was silly.... the rest you mention? I liked that we don't know. Same as NOT seeing the monsters. The unknown sometimes is so much better in a movie then knowing.

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    Popularity does not equal quality.

    I do 100% agree about not knowing being better sometimes. In this regard, the movie stayed true to the book. That's the part the movie got right, that uneasy feeling the apparition or whatever could be sitting on your shoulder and you'd never know is pretty neat. Closed places being safe probably should've been explained a little. Or why the mentally unstable were spared. The thing was clearly intelligent and in theory, that should've made the movie menacing AF...which brings me to why it wasn't: flashbacks. I'm not opposed to them in general, but this was a major misstep which robbed the movie of that tension the book had. I mean, if you know someone is going to make it, you don't tend to root for them as much... they'll be fine, what's the point? That's why I was actually hoping there'd be a directors cut of The Martian where Mr. Potato gets killed in most gruesome ways.

    Anyway, I wanted to like it a lot more than I did but it just didn't live up to the hype.

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    I agree with them not showing the "monsters" or whatever it is that's out there. I think it's much better to use your imagination, because if they were to show something it most likely wouldn't convey what you could create in your mind. Think about Blair Witch. That movie was very successful and you never once saw the Blair Witch. However, I do agree that they could have conveyed it better in the film. I didn't like the whispering. It's been awhile since I read the book, so can someone refresh my memory. I don't remember anything of the sort. Of whispers trying to get to the people in the book? I remember it as being strictly seeing whatever this thing is. So being outside wasn't as much of an issue. Yes, you couldn't see, but there wasn't really this threat of being hypnotized so to say. Weren't they always going outside to get fresh water and everything from the well?

    As for the crazy people not being susceptible, I just took it that they're already crazy so this "thing" doesn't really have any effect on them since they're already crazy. Since in essence it makes people go crazy and loose their mind.

    And lastly I really do wish they had followed the ending to the book. It was so much better than the ending they chose for the movie. Overall I enjoyed it. Will I watch it again, maybe, maybe not. But if do it won't be anytime soon.
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