The Official 2017 Oscar Discussion/Contest Thread

[Still Servant]

Who do think deserves an Oscar nomination this year, but probably won't get one?

Ben Foster - Hell or High Water
John Goodman - 10 Cloverfield Lane
Jonah Hill - War Dogs


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I would love it if John Goodman got a nomination, but no matter how good his performance is, that's just one of those movies that will not got any nominations. I really do wish the academy would broaden their minds and include performances like this even though its not from an "awards type" film.

I know, it's annoying. The other thing that hurts 10 Cloverfield Lane is that it came out really early in the year.

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[mae]

So Oscar nominations come out on Tuesday the 24th. What are some of your predictions? What gets a Best Picture nom, etc?

Food for thought: http://www.goldderby.com/odds/expert...inations-2017/

[Still Servant]

I'm hoping to watch a livestream at work. I don't think they nominate 10, they seem to be unwilling to.

My predictions:

1) La La Land
2) Moonlight
3) Arrival
4) Silence
5) Hell or High Water
6) Manchester by the Sea
7) Lion
8 ) Hacksaw Ridge
9) Fences


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[Mattrick]

What time are the nominations released? They've done it around noon in the past. just wondering if I need to skip class that day to watch them as I hate not watching it.

Best picture is obviously between Moonlight and La La Land. Moonlight deserves the award because its a smaller movie that's impactful and delicately made, and while La La Land would win and I'd be just as happy, it's the sort of movie you'd expect to win, which almost devalues its win.

Stone and Gosling are shoe ins for best actor/actress, though Casey Affleck might take Goslings statue away. I think Naome Harris deserves supporting actress for Moonlight. She's so good in it. I'd vote for Foster as supporting actor. I actually haven't seen a role otherwise that astounded me in terms of instant oscar buzz. Probably some great performances I haven't seen yet.

Best score will be between Moonlight and La La Land with La La Land taking it. La La Land for cinematograhy and production design. Moonlight for best original screenplay. Not sure who will win best director yet but it's between Jenkins and Chazelle. Elle will probably take foreign language film.

[Still Servant]

What time are the nominations released? They've done it around noon in the past. just wondering if I need to skip class that day to watch them as I hate not watching it.

They will be announced at 8:18 Eastern Time. Just adjust that for Canadian time.

http://ew.com/awards/2017/01/13/osca...tions-changed/

Best picture is obviously between Moonlight and La La Land. Moonlight deserves the award because its a smaller movie that's impactful and delicately made, and while La La Land would win and I'd be just as happy, it's the sort of movie you'd expect to win, which almost devalues its win.

Not so fast. I feel it's between La La Land, Moonlight and Manchester by the Sea. You can't count them out.

Not sure who will win best director yet but it's between Jenkins and Chazelle.

I think Chazelle takes it. Jenkins could take it, especially if Oscar is trying to make up for last year.

[Mattrick]

I'm not counting Manchester out, but I just don't think it has a chance against the other two. Nothing to do with movie quality, but I just don't think it has near the momentum.

[Still Servant]

I'm not counting Manchester out, but I just don't think it has a chance against the other two. Nothing to do with movie quality, but I just don't think it has near the momentum.

Have you seen Manchester yet? I'm interested to hear what you think.

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[mae]

Here is what my ten picks for Best Picture would be, in order of most likely to least:

1. La La Land
2. Moonlight
3. Arrival
4. Manchester by the Sea
5. Hell or High Water
6. Hidden Figures
7. Fences
8. Hacksaw Ridge
9. Jackie
10. Lion

In don't see Silence making it. I haven't seen it yet, and it's apparently very good, but there's been no buzz or really any good word about it at all, and no box office success.

[Still Servant]

I don't see Silence making it. I haven't seen it yet, and it's apparently very good, but there's been no buzz or really any good word about it at all, and no box office success.

True. My thinking is that the Academy loves Scorsese and Silence was a 20+ year passion project.

Here are my last minute predictions:

SUPPORTING ACTOR

Mahershala Ali, “Moonlight”
Ben Foster, “Hell or High Water”
Aaron Taylor-Johnson, “Nocturnal Animals"
Lucas Hedges, “Manchester By The Sea”
Dev Patel, “Lion”

I know it's Jeff Bridges that is the one getting mentioned for Hell or High Water, but it's Foster who steals the film. As much as I love Bridges, he's really kind of channeling his True Grit character. The one most likely to be wrong is Aaron Taylor-Johnson. I could see Hugh Grant stealing that spot, which sucks because Taylor-Johnson was fantastic.

SUPPORTING ACTRESS

Viola Davis, “Fences”
Naomie Harris, “Moonlight”
Nicole Kidman, “Lion”
Octavia Spencer, “Hidden Figures”
Michelle Williams, “Manchester by the Sea”

This group seems to be the consensus. I haven't seen Hidden Figures yet, but I could see relative newcomer Janelle Monáe taking Octavia Spencer's spot, despite the fact that Spencer is an Oscar darling.

ACTOR

Casey Affleck, “Manchester by the Sea”
Ryan Gosling, “La La Land”
Andrew Garfield, “Hacksaw Ridge”
Jake Gyllenhaal, “Nocturnal Animals”
Denzel Washington, “Fences”

I know I'm going out on a limb here and my love for Gyllenhaal might be showing, but if he doesn't get nominated something is wrong. He was great in Nocturnal Animals, he also gave a strong performance earlier in the year in Demolition. He was snubbed big time for Nightcrawler a few years back. Lastly, his main competition at this point is Viggo Mortensen for Captain Fantastic. I love Viggo from his Lord of the Rings days, but I'm shocked he has gained so much steam these last few months. The film wasn't very well received and his performance hardly got any attention until recently. I'm telling you, if Viggo gets it instead of Jake, it's gonna get ugly.


ACTRESS

Amy Adams, “Arrival”
Isabelle Huppert, "Elle"
Ruth Negga, "Loving"
Natalie Portman, “Jackie”
Emma Stone, “La La Land”

There's a couple surprises here and I'm sure Meryl Streep will steal a spot. I'm hoping Negga gets a nomination. I love her on Preacher and I'm really looking forward to her performance in Loving. I hear she's great.

Here is a link to the livestream: https://youtu.be/2LyfuLS2mlM

[mae]

Here is a link to the livestream: https://youtu.be/2LyfuLS2mlM

Here it is embedded so it's easier:

[mae]

And there you have it!

Full list: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...ominees-967374

[Still Servant]

Here is the complete list of this year's Oscar nominations. I will give my thoughts after work.

Best Picture

Arrival
Fences
Hacksaw Ridge
Hell or High Water
Hidden Figures
La La Land
Lion
Manchester by the Sea
Moonlight

Best Director

Denis Villeneuve - Arrival
Mel Gibson - Hacksaw Ridge
Damien Chazelle - La La Land
Kenneth Lonergan - Manchester by the Sea
Barry Jenkins - Moonlight

Best Actor

Casey Affleck - Manchester by the Sea
Andrew Garfield - Hacksaw Ridge
Ryan Gosling - La La Land
Viggo Mortensen - Captain Fantastic
Denzel Washington - Fences

Best Actress

Isabelle Huppert - Elle
Ruth Negga - Loving
Emma Stone - La La Land
Natalie Portman - Jackie
Meryl Streep - Florence Foster Jenkins

Best Supporting Actor

Mahershala Ali - Moonlight
Jeff Bridges - Hell or High Water
Lucas Hedges - Manchester by the Sea
Dev Patel - Lion
Michael Shannon - Nocturnal Animals

Best Supporting Actress

Viola Davis - Fences
Naomie Harris - Moonlight
Nicole Kidman - Lion
Octavia Spencer - Hidden Figures
Michelle Williams - Manchester by the Sea

Best Cinematography

Arrival
La La Land
Lion
Moonlight
Silence

Best Documentary Feature

Fire at Sea
I Am Not Your Negro
Life, Animated
O.J.: Made in America
The 13th

Best Foreign Language Film

Land of Mine
A Man Called Ove
The Salesman
Tanna
Toni Erdmann

Best Costume Design

Allied
Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Florence Foster Jenkins
Jackie
La La Land

Best Original Score

Jackie
La La Land
Lion
Moonlight
Passengers

Best Original Song

"Audition" - La La Land
"Can't Stop the Feeling!" - Trolls
"City of Stars" - La La Land
"The Empty Chair" - Jim: The James Foley Story
"How Far I'll Go" - Moana

Best Sound Editing

Arrival
Deepwater Horizon
Hacksaw Ridge
La La Land
Sully

Best Sound Mixing

Arrival
Hacksaw Ridge
La La Land
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi

Best Documentary Short

4.1 Miles
Extremis
Joe's Violin
Watani: My Homeland
The White Helmets

Best Production Design

Arrival
Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Hail, Caesar!
La La Land
Passengers

Best Original Screenplay

Hell or High Water
La La Land
The Lobster
Manchester by the Sea
20th Century Women

Best Adapted Screenplay

Arrival
Fences
Hidden Figures
Lion
Moonlight

Best Animated Feature

Kubo and the Two Strings
Moana
My Life As a Zucchini
The Red Turtle
Zootopia

Best Animated Short

Blind Vaysha
Borrowed Time
Pear Cider and Cigarettes
Pearl
Piper

Best Live Action Short

Ennemis Interieurs
La Femme et le TGV
Silent Nights
Sing
Timecode

Best Film Editing

Arrival
Hacksaw Ridge
Hell or High Water
La La Land
Moonlight

Best Visual Effects

Deepwater Horizon
Doctor Strange
The Jungle Book
Kubo and the Two Strings
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Best Makeup and Hairstyling

A Man Called Ove
Star Trek Beyond
Suicide Squad

[mae]

I am really surprised O.J.: Made in America was nominated. Yes, technically it premiered theatrically, but it's a television miniseries.

[Tommy]

I am really surprised O.J.: Made in America was nominated. Yes, technically it premiered theatrically, but it's a television miniseries.

It's also one of the best documentaries I've ever seen. I'm surprised and glad it was nominated.

[Mattrick]

No real surprises here.

[Tommy]

Surprised Finding Dory wasn't nominated...

[webstar1000]

LA LA LA... please. I am however thrilled for Arrival and Hacksaw. I hope one of them take it!

[Tommy]

The only one I've seen for Best Picture is Hell or High Water. I got some catching up to do!

[mae]

Start with Arrival, if it's still out anywhere.

[webstar1000]

Start with Arrival, if it's still out anywhere.

100%

[Tommy]

Start with Arrival, if it's still out anywhere.

100%

I'm hoping it will show up at my local discount theater soon. I never know when or what will show up there but it should be getting close to the time when it will arrive. The arrival of Arrival if you will.

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[Heather19]

The only one I've seen for Best Picture is Hell or High Water. I got some catching up to do!

Me too. I've only seen Hell or High Water and La La Land. Still dying to see Manchester By the Sea, and Arrival is on my list as well. The others don't really interest me much, but maybe I'll check them out at some point.

[Still Servant]

I am really surprised O.J.: Made in America was nominated. Yes, technically it premiered theatrically, but it's a television miniseries.

I remember hearing before the show aired that the producers were determined to get their documentary nominated for an Academy Award. They were sure to release the film in the required amount of theaters in order to qualify. I know what you're saying, but I'm pretty sure there have been HBO documentaries that have been nominated for Academy Awards.

LA LA LA... please. I am however thrilled for Arrival and Hacksaw. I hope one of them take it!

Arrival and Hacksaw Ridge were two of my favorite films of the year. Neither has a chance of winning Best Picture. It's really between La La Land and Moonlight. I think Manchester by the Sea might make their way into the conversation.

My thoughts on the nominations:

As Matt said, no huge surprises here. It still annoys me that the Academy can't just nominate 10 films. It's nice to see Mel Gibson get a nomination despite is history. I'm not sure what the voters saw in Viggo Mortensen. Jake Gyllenhaal should have been nominated there.

They keep saying Isabelle Huppert is the Meryl Streep of France and she must be considering she gets nominated despite the fact that her film doesn't even get a foreign film nomination. Speaking of Streep, this love affair with her has got to stop. It's utterly ridiculous that she gets nominated over Amy Adams. I was happy to see Ruth Negga get nominated though.

The other thing that annoys me is when they nominate people because they are familiar faces and past winners/nominees. Perfect example of this is Best Supporting Actor. Bridges doesn't come close to Foster in Hell or High Water, and as great has Shannon was in Nocturnal Animals, it's Aaron Taylor-Johnson that really steals the film. I would have liked to see a little more variety in the acting categories, but at least we don't have to hear any more BS about #OscarSoWhite anymore.

I'm already prepared to listen to all the La La Land haters. It's bound to happen whenever a film gets so much praise. It's a shame that people will dislike the film just because others like it, but that's the world we live in.

Well, I'm looking forward to seeing a few more of these movies, formulating opinions, making my picks and losing by 2 points to Heather.

[webstar1000]

I'm somewhat shocked with all the complaints that concerning the lack of a nom for Deadpool. Did these people really believe it would be nominated? It was great yes... but come on people! Really?


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