Cycle of the werewolf Porfolio

[webstar1000]

I'm honestly surprised 3/5 $2,000 packages were bought already.

Why? It has an original.... and a large one. If it is detailed even a bit that price is a steal. I would buy one if I had the money. I can tell ya that!


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I will NOT be going for any of these.

Confused here buddy - what changed?

Earlier when I posted it.. no price on the top issue. I read Rf's post about $8k or so... and I was like no. But $2k!!!!???? Sorry that is a deal. And I retract my statement. For some reason they held back that price... but it's a good one. I found out the price from your post actually brother!


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[webstar1000]

I'm honestly surprised 3/5 $2,000 packages were bought already.

Why? It has an original.... and a large one. If it is detailed even a bit that price is a steal. I would buy one if I had the money. I can tell ya that!

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I agree, and am one of three backers so far (I think I was second). For $2k you get: a 14x17 original sketch from 1983 (!!!), twelve print set all signed by Bernie on higher quality paper (310gsm Textured Exhibition Watercolor paper vs 305gsm cold-press natural watercolor paper), a really nice wooden case, sketch book with never before printed behind the scenes concept and process sketches, t-shirt, and two calendar (2017 and 1984 lunar one).

Can you see the artwork? I really wish you could.... $2k could be a friggin steal depending....


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[Kingfan24]

I think two of them are the pictures that they show in the campaign

[webstar1000]

I think two of them are the pictures that they show in the campaign

Hmmmm.... those sketches are nice but I would say if those are 2 of the 5 I would pass again. Mostly cause I would prefer a larger wolf or picture. Probably worth asking price though to be honest. Those are ones I have pics of that he was selling at a Comic Com over a year ago for a couple hundred bucks.... never got them


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[DoctorZaius]

I also should note... I contacted the chap starting this campaign about 3/4 months ago. I sent him pics of some Bernie's that I was aware of floating around Comic Con's with Bernie and Liz. I could not get in touch with them and he said he would on my behalf. He is very close to the Wrightsons. He got back to me and told me that he was in contact and they would look for the pieces I was after. The price's were out of this world cheap and I was shocked and started my hunt. Ironically Doctorzuis (member here) scored some of them when he met up with them at a show. I waited to hear back for a bit and then reached out... he told me that they had not found anything... then imagine my surprise when this pops across my desk a couple days ago. GRRRRRRR!! Oh well

Man, those pieces of Bernie's I scored this summer are looking pretty good now.

[webstar1000]

I also should note... I contacted the chap starting this campaign about 3/4 months ago. I sent him pics of some Bernie's that I was aware of floating around Comic Con's with Bernie and Liz. I could not get in touch with them and he said he would on my behalf. He is very close to the Wrightsons. He got back to me and told me that he was in contact and they would look for the pieces I was after. The price's were out of this world cheap and I was shocked and started my hunt. Ironically Doctorzuis (member here) scored some of them when he met up with them at a show. I waited to hear back for a bit and then reached out... he told me that they had not found anything... then imagine my surprise when this pops across my desk a couple days ago. GRRRRRRR!! Oh well

Man, those pieces of Bernie's I scored this summer are looking pretty good now.

100000%


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[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Should this be merged into the Bernie Wrightson thread?

[burial]

whats the limitation on the print portfolio. It says it is hand numbered, but no mention of the limitation, or is that tbd based on the number of pledges?

Never mind, I see it now (500) in the the button to pledge for that item. Never done Kickstarter before so wasn't familiar with their format.

Although I am confused, wouldn't the orders for the $185, $800, $2000 levels count against the limit for the $175, or will there be 655 copies of the portfolio (500+100+50+5). Looking at the number remaining it doesn't look like the other levels count against the $175 level (again, not familiar with how kickstarter works).

I think it should state 500+100 (standard portfolio) and 50+5 (wood box portfolio)

[Beverly Marsh]

I splurged and ordered a calendar

[Randall Flagg]

Should this be merged into the Bernie Wrightson thread?

Not at this time.

[amd013]

Looks like the $185 level sold out, so they added a $200 level, that is essentially the same as the $185 level for those that missed out. So I wonder if that increases the potential limitation from 600 to 700.

[wolfehr]

Looks like the $185 level sold out, so they added a $200 level, that is essentially the same as the $185 level for those that missed out. So I wonder if that increases the potential limitation from 600 to 700.

I think they added that so there's a reward their that includes the calendar, t-shirt, etc. in addition to the prints. The update they sent out very much sounded like the limitation isn't changing.

"We had quite a few messages from people who missed out on the Early Bird Lycanthrope sets, but still wanted to get the box set + shirt + calendar, so we added a NEW REWARD TIER for them! Kickstarter doesn't allow a person to pledge several times for a project, so if you wanted more than one reward, this is the only way to get all of them! It's not as much a deal as the Early Bird set, but still better than getting them all individually. Pledge at the $200 level if you want to pick it up!"

[amd013]

Looks like the $185 level sold out, so they added a $200 level, that is essentially the same as the $185 level for those that missed out. So I wonder if that increases the potential limitation from 600 to 700.

I think they added that so there's a reward their that includes the calendar, t-shirt, etc. in addition to the prints. The update they sent out very much sounded like the limitation isn't changing.

"We had quite a few messages from people who missed out on the Early Bird Lycanthrope sets, but still wanted to get the box set + shirt + calendar, so we added a NEW REWARD TIER for them! Kickstarter doesn't allow a person to pledge several times for a project, so if you wanted more than one reward, this is the only way to get all of them! It's not as much a deal as the Early Bird set, but still better than getting them all individually. Pledge at the $200 level if you want to pick it up!"

So will they close the $175, $200 reward levels when the sum of $175,$185,$200 reward levels sold reaches 500? or 600? Otherwise they would need to reduce the number of $175 reward levels to ensure they don't oversell

[webstar1000]

Can someone answer me why a Kickstarter was needed for this?

[jsmcmullen92]

Can someone answer me why a Kickstarter was needed for this?

I think there are still The Stand portfolios left from the last time they did this. As book collectors we will buy the same book 3 different ways because each is a little different than the last and each is a piece of art in itself. But will an art collector buy the same piece of art because it was handed to you in a better box and on a little better paper? Not to mention spend the same or more amount on the artwork as you could on the hardcover edition of the entire book. I think these guys knew that there was no need for this portfolio other than to sturate the market so they would rather have the money up front to do instead of losing their ass on making 600 portfolios and only selling 100.

Just speculation

[webstar1000]

Can someone answer me why a Kickstarter was needed for this?

I think there are still The Stand portfolios left from the last time they did this. As book collectors we will buy the same book 3 different ways because each is a little different than the last and each is a piece of art in itself. But will an art collector buy the same piece of art because it was handed to you in a better box and on a little better paper? Not to mention spend the same or more amount on the artwork as you could on the hardcover edition of the entire book. I think these guys knew that there was no need for this portfolio other than to sturate the market so they would rather have the money up front to do instead of losing their ass on making 600 portfolios and only selling 100.

Just speculation

I thought the Stand was sold out long ago.. mind you at half price ($150). But yeah good idea.... I was wondering if the company perhaps doesn't have the capital to do it and this was a way to find it...

[zelig]

Can someone answer me why a Kickstarter was needed for this?

I think there are still The Stand portfolios left from the last time they did this. As book collectors we will buy the same book 3 different ways because each is a little different than the last and each is a piece of art in itself. But will an art collector buy the same piece of art because it was handed to you in a better box and on a little better paper? Not to mention spend the same or more amount on the artwork as you could on the hardcover edition of the entire book. I think these guys knew that there was no need for this portfolio other than to sturate the market so they would rather have the money up front to do instead of losing their ass on making 600 portfolios and only selling 100.

Just speculation

I thought the Stand was sold out long ago.. mind you at half price ($150). But yeah good idea.... I was wondering if the company perhaps doesn't have the capital to do it and this was a way to find it...

Sure, but the thing is, how would it have been any different if they had launched this on their own website and taken pre-orders like other small press publishers do. They'd fund it that way.

I'm not sure I get the motivation for going the Kickstarter route. What is the benefit over simply taking pre-orders. To me both strategies produce the same result, unless I'm missing some key component or benefit to crowdfunding. I'm curious to hear if anyone has some insight on this.

[Ari_Racing]

Easy: with Kickstarter you can collect more money than with just pre-orders.

[zelig]

Easy: with Kickstarter you can collect more money than with just pre-orders.

Why?

[Randall Flagg]

Easy: with Kickstarter you can collect more money than with just pre-orders.

Why?

Without knowing, I'm guessing they pocket the excess with all of the money up front (otherwise known as profit).
If they can collect $20K+ through Paypal with LESS than 200 "funder's", they won't get a 1099K from Paypal.
Doesn't mean they won't report the income (I think they will, it's silly not to).
It's a good way to advertise.

[Ari_Racing]

Easy: with Kickstarter you can collect more money than with just pre-orders.

Why?

First the easy fact: there are people that donate more money than the one needed for a particular reward. It happens everytime. And sometimes there's even a reward category that requires extra money and you actually don't get more stuff. Sometime ago I put money for Ron Gilbert's Thimbleweed Park (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ck-adv?lang=es). If you look at the rewards, the U$S 20 and the U$S 25 are exactly the same reward. Well...3048 people applied for the more expensive one. That's 15K extra.

Then you've got rewards that don't cause a cost to the launcher: thank you in the credits, executive producer's title, a digital wallpaper. Most are pocket money (executive producer is not, of course).

And don't forget you can optimize production. When you do a preorder you usually have a quantity of books for sale. Here the limitation can only apply to one or two certain articles of all the rewards. You can narrow your possible losses.

Just in case someone didn't see this:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ad/description

[zelig]

Thanks for the feedback Jerome and Ari. Looks like I'm in the wrong business. I should be making potato salad.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Thanks for the feedback Jerome and Ari. Looks like I'm in the wrong business. I should be making potato salad.

I'm working on an Air Guitar project and will be using KickStarter.

"Turn It Up to 11"

Mulleins

[bdwyer19]

Thanks for the feedback Jerome and Ari. Looks like I'm in the wrong business. I should be making potato salad.

I'm working on an Air Guitar project and will be using KickStarter.

"Turn It Up to 11"

Mulleins

I'm intrigued... what kind of air, acoustic or electric?

[herbertwest]

Easy: with Kickstarter you can collect more money than with just pre-orders.

Why?

First the easy fact: there are people that donate more money than the one needed for a particular reward. It happens everytime. And sometimes there's even a reward category that requires extra money and you actually don't get more stuff. Sometime ago I put money for Ron Gilbert's Thimbleweed Park (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ck-adv?lang=es). If you look at the rewards, the U$S 20 and the U$S 25 are exactly the same reward. Well...3048 people applied for the more expensive one. That's 15K extra.

Then you've got rewards that don't cause a cost to the launcher: thank you in the credits, executive producer's title, a digital wallpaper. Most are pocket money (executive producer is not, of course).

And don't forget you can optimize production. When you do a preorder you usually have a quantity of books for sale. Here the limitation can only apply to one or two certain articles of all the rewards. You can narrow your possible losses.

Intriguing, thanks.