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[jsmcmullen92]

Mr Rabbit Trick,

Has there been numbered Legends for sale? I have not seen one!

Thanks!

Betts sold one not too long ago for $1700

[webstar1000]

Mr Rabbit Trick,

Has there been numbered Legends for sale? I have not seen one!

Thanks!

Still listed on Bett's site too Glen.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Mr Rabbit Trick, Has there been numbered Legends for sale? I have not seen one!

Thanks!

Betts have sold...
#170 - $1000
#125 - $1750
#27 - $1700

...and that's just Betts

[Priest]

Lettered Gunslinger - any guess ?

[Br!an]

First born child?

[Priest]

Already offered that but eBay told me, reserve not met ...

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Lettered Gunslinger - any guess ?

Betts sold: Gunslinger Lettered "AF" - uber-rare as I've seen a total of 7 for sale in 15 years; this one is PERFECT in every way except for a very small flaw near binding where two pages stuck together resulting in small loss of color - (see photos above) - $$6,700

[Priest]

Great ! Proven data is perfect / thanks!
You don't know by chance when this have been?

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Great ! Proven data is perfect / thanks!
You don't know by chance when this have been?

Within the last 2 years? Can't remember.

[Niels]

It was for sale at Veryfinebooks for $12,000. http://www.veryfinebooks.com/mobile/...t_p/sk879.htm=

[AKC]

Consistent with a majority of the listings at VeryFine Books.....ridiculously overpriced.

Dumb.

[Rahfa]

He's doing something right - so I'm not sure it's "dumb." It's certainly exclusive. (obviously this Gunslinger was priced much too high - but it seems like it was a consignment)

By all accounts, he does have a customer base willing to pay top dollar. Maybe not often, maybe not consistently, but if any seller prices really, really high they only need to hit one home run for a big score, and not a bunch of bloop singles.

[webstar1000]

He's doing something right - so I'm not sure it's "dumb." It's certainly exclusive. (obviously this Gunslinger was priced much too high - but it seems like it was a consignment)

By all accounts, he does have a customer base willing to pay top dollar. Maybe not often, maybe not consistently, but if any seller prices really, really high they only need to hit one home run for a big score, and not a bunch of bloop singles.

His prices are higher than anywhere else. WAY higher. Would you buy from him a book you can buy from David for a significantly lower amount? NO!!! No one would! His customer base must not know about two things.... this site here and Bett's Books. SO mayhap they are the "dumb" ones for paying a ridiculous price. lol

[stroppygoblin]

He's doing something right - so I'm not sure it's "dumb." It's certainly exclusive. (obviously this Gunslinger was priced much too high - but it seems like it was a consignment)

By all accounts, he does have a customer base willing to pay top dollar. Maybe not often, maybe not consistently, but if any seller prices really, really high they only need to hit one home run for a big score, and not a bunch of bloop singles.

His prices are higher than anywhere else. WAY higher. Would you buy from him a book you can buy from David for a significantly lower amount? NO!!! No one would! His customer base must not know about two things.... this site here and Bett's Books. SO mayhap they are the "dumb" ones for paying a ridiculous price. lol

There is a different viewpoint to this, David buys and sells books as a 2nd job, his main employment is completely different. David's prices are probably the best out there, but he only sells what he has bought or consigned to him. His main clientele are mid to high range collectors who are looking for a book to fill a specific hole in their collection. Emmanuel (VFB) on the other hand runs a business and his *main* clientele have very different needs. Not only does Emmanuelle focus on extremely fine copies, he also actively searches for specific books for his bigger customers. He acts as a high end dealer and go between and will buy books 'on spec' specifically for individuals. If those buyers do not want (for any reason) to buy the book, the cost of purchase falls to him, and he has to then try and resell. He also offers a full no quibble guarantee on the books he sells. Also for his 'best' customers I believe those high prices are 'negotiable'

I'm not trying to speak for Emmanuelle or demean David in any way, simply pointing out very different business models. Are Emmanuelles' prices too high? Not if you are the kind of collector who wants the level of service he offers. For the rest of us, quite probably.

[webstar1000]

He's doing something right - so I'm not sure it's "dumb." It's certainly exclusive. (obviously this Gunslinger was priced much too high - but it seems like it was a consignment)

By all accounts, he does have a customer base willing to pay top dollar. Maybe not often, maybe not consistently, but if any seller prices really, really high they only need to hit one home run for a big score, and not a bunch of bloop singles.

His prices are higher than anywhere else. WAY higher. Would you buy from him a book you can buy from David for a significantly lower amount? NO!!! No one would! His customer base must not know about two things.... this site here and Bett's Books. SO mayhap they are the "dumb" ones for paying a ridiculous price. lol

There is a different viewpoint to this, David buys and sells books as a 2nd job, his main employment is completely different. David's prices are probably the best out there, but he only sells what he has bought or consigned to him. His main clientele are mid to high range collectors who are looking for a book to fill a specific hole in their collection. Emmanuel (VFB) on the other hand runs a business and his *main* clientele have very different needs. Not only does Emmanuelle focus on extremely fine copies, he also actively searches for specific books for his bigger customers. He acts as a high end dealer and go between and will buy books 'on spec' specifically for individuals. If those buyers do not want (for any reason) to buy the book, the cost of purchase falls to him, and he has to then try and resell. He also offers a full no quibble guarantee on the books he sells. Also for his 'best' customers I believe those high prices are 'negotiable'

I'm not trying to speak for Emmanuelle or demean David in any way, simply pointing out very different business models. Are Emmanuelles' prices too high? Not if you are the kind of collector who wants the level of service he offers. For the rest of us, quite probably.

Love ya Simon but I have to disagree. David will offer the same if not better level of service that Emmanuelle offers as I am sure you know as you have purchased from him. I have tried to purchase something from Emmanuelle before and his prices were not negotiable at that time anyway.... To each his own but some things make sense and some things do not. Very Fine Books pricing makes no sense to me at all brother...

[WeDealInLead]

[Love ya Simon but I have to disagree. David will offer the same if not better level of service that Emmanuelle offers as I am sure you know as you have purchased from him.

How so? VFB is an actual store and not a list of books that are possibly for sale. You add a book to your cart, check out and it's yours. You don't need to wait for an email (sometimes for days) only to find out the book is unavailable. David does this as second job and there are blackout days when he's unavailable, not so with VFB. I wouldn't pay those prices but somebody obviously is.

[webstar1000]

[Love ya Simon but I have to disagree. David will offer the same if not better level of service that Emmanuelle offers as I am sure you know as you have purchased from him.

How so? VFB is an actual store and not a list of books that are possibly for sale. You add a book to your cart, check out and it's yours. You don't need to wait for an email (sometimes for days) only to find out the book is unavailable. David does this as second job and there are blackout days when he's unavailable, not so with VFB. I wouldn't pay those prices but somebody obviously is.

I have never had that issue with David. Nothing but top notch expert service. I guess if you were looking for a specific book in a specific number you might pay the price.. but it is nice to have a "cart" to buy from. I am sure that David will have that eventually.

[WeDealInLead]

If I remember correctly, Ari was working on a store for Betts. Not sure what happened.

I had a bigcartel e-store for my old band. It took five minutes to set up. They take a small percentage but something like an "add to cart" button and "stock availability" clearly displayed would probably increase impulse purchases at Betts.

[TrueNorth]

I have bought from both guys and will again.
I always thought Emmanuelle's prices werre too high and when David took over from Stu his prices were too low. I think that is changing. Both guys are super, returned phone calls and each had a little wiggle room. Wish David had new website and an assistant.

[AKC]

Great dialogue and I didn't recognize my "dumb" comment would generate so much passion.

Bottom line is that I'm not gonna' pay the following prices:

- $850 for a S/L Doctor Sleep
- $1,250 for a S/L CUJO
- $1,895 for a S/L Firestarter

Obviously, somebody will. To each their own….

[webstar1000]

Great dialogue and I didn't recognize my "dumb" comment would generate so much passion.

Bottom line is that I'm not gonna' pay the following prices:


- $850 for a S/L Doctor Sleep
- $1,250 for a S/L CUJO
- $1,895 for a S/L Firestarter

Obviously, somebody will. To each their own….

What about $450 for a 1st signed Revival? Going rate is it not? lol

[webstar1000]

If I remember correctly, Ari was working on a store for Betts. Not sure what happened.

I had a bigcartel e-store for my old band. It took five minutes to set up. They take a small percentage but something like an "add to cart" button and "stock availability" clearly displayed would probably increase impulse purchases at Betts.

That be great news! David needs a new site I also think once this house stuff is done and he is back to his regular routine... postings/updates/returned emails and what not will get back on track. I bear with him... cause HE IS WORTH IT

[TrueNorth]

If I remember correctly, Ari was working on a store for Betts. Not sure what happened.

I had a bigcartel e-store for my old band. It took five minutes to set up. They take a small percentage but something like an "add to cart" button and "stock availability" clearly displayed would probably increase impulse purchases at Betts.

That be great news! David needs a new site I also think once this house stuff is done and he is back to his regular routine... postings/updates/returned emails and what not will get back on track. I bear with him... cause HE IS WORTH IT

Plus knowing its yours is nice. Last winter I saw a LE of Firestarter & Christine. I wrote David as soon as I saw them and he replied "Sorry sold". A month later I got them from Kris. These are in the top 10 of my favorite SK books. Thanks again Kris!

[webstar1000]

If I remember correctly, Ari was working on a store for Betts. Not sure what happened.

I had a bigcartel e-store for my old band. It took five minutes to set up. They take a small percentage but something like an "add to cart" button and "stock availability" clearly displayed would probably increase impulse purchases at Betts.

That be great news! David needs a new site I also think once this house stuff is done and he is back to his regular routine... postings/updates/returned emails and what not will get back on track. I bear with him... cause HE IS WORTH IT

Plus knowing its yours is nice. Last winter I saw a LE of Firestarter & Christine. I wrote David as soon as I saw them and he replied "Sorry sold". A month later I got them from Kris. These are in the top 10 of my favorite SK books. Thanks again Kris!

You got it brother!!!! I love what I got in return!!!

[Br!an]

I agree with Simon.

They have different business models and cater to a largely different clientèle.

I'm more of a Bett's person.

I find VFB to be too pricey. However there are some who have the money and desire the finest. VFB might be the better option for them.