X-Men (20th Century Fox)

**Ka-mai** · 05-07-2009 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mordred Deschain

also

Spoiler:

I was wondering the same thing.

Okay, I never was into X-Men as a kid, so I just know the movies. So my opinion is not really based on anything.

I thought Ryan Reynolds was a poor casting choice, because he is Ryan Reynolds. He should not be cast as anyone for anything. Something my boyfriend and I laughed about later:

Spoiler:

In summary, Deadpool sucked.

As for Wolverine/Sabretooth: Matt thinks he read somewhere that Sabretooth was actually Wolverine's dad, but he's not sure. It sounds like there's a lot of answers for this question. Which brings me to the opening scene of the movie:

Spoiler:

Maybe it makes sense if you read the comics, but it was horrible to me.

Probably my last gripe with this movie.

Spoiler:

Basically, I thought this was a good, albeit pretty cliche, action movie. I love the X-Men characters no matter how cheesy the movies get, and Hugh Jackman is delicious.

I wish I had known about the endings later, we left the theater right away.

**Mordred Deschain** · 05-07-2009 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by ka-mai

as for Wolverine/Sabretooth: Matt thinks he read somewhere that Sabretooth was actually Wolverine's dad, but he's not sure. It sounds like there's a lot of answers for this question. Which brings me to the opening scene of the movie:

Spoiler:

Maybe it makes sense if you read the comics, but it was horrible to me.

The problem is I think writers for the comics are given a certain amount of freedom. And since Wolverine's memories have been played with, they can almost say anything then change it again later on. I don't think he's Wolverine's father, but who knows. But your spoiler, ya, it was interesting to say the least. Like I said to, I do remember picking up a comic book that did have almost that story line where he's a kid. But I don't know where it went from there.

Probably my last gripe with this movie.

Spoiler:

I agree.

**turtlex** · 05-07-2009 01:23 PM

Yeah, you know - way back when, in the very beginning, when they announced Hugh Jackman as Wolverine... I was not happy. I thought he was a horrible choice and honestly, I was completely wrong. He's a GREAT Wolverine and I don't think anyone would or could do a better job. He had the whole character right ( meaning, the tone, the sarcasm, the angst, the pain, the strength ).

Gotta give him the thumbs up.

**flaggwalkstheline** · 05-07-2009 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by ka-mai

Probably my last gripe with this movie.

Spoiler:

Wait the Diamond Cream from Arrested Development was in the new xmen film!?

I gotta ses it now

**Seymour_Glass** · 05-07-2009 01:45 PM

That's what I thought too!

**RUBE** · 05-07-2009 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by ka-mai

Originally Posted by Mordred Deschain

also

Spoiler:

I was wondering the same thing.

Okay, I never was into X-Men as a kid, so I just know the movies. So my opinion is not really based on anything.

I thought Ryan Reynolds was a poor casting choice, because he is Ryan Reynolds. He should not be cast as anyone for anything. Something my boyfriend and I laughed about later:

Spoiler:

In summary, Deadpool sucked.

As for Wolverine/Sabretooth: Matt thinks he read somewhere that Sabretooth was actually Wolverine's dad, but he's not sure. It sounds like there's a lot of answers for this question. Which brings me to the opening scene of the movie:

Spoiler:

Maybe it makes sense if you read the comics, but it was horrible to me.

Probably my last gripe with this movie.

Spoiler:

Basically, I thought this was a good, albeit pretty cliche, action movie. I love the X-Men characters no matter how cheesy the movies get, and Hugh Jackman is delicious.

I wish I had known about the endings later, we left the theater right away.

The reason that Deadpool did not have diamond-hard skin is because they did not give him that power. They only gave him powers from ten specially chosen mutants according to what Stryker said. The rest of the mutants were just ones they captured. Remember what John Wraith said?

**valtr0n** · 05-07-2009 05:05 PM

Yeah, Stryker said they had to determine which mutant powers could coexist within a single host, if I recall correctly.

**Ka-mai** · 05-07-2009 05:42 PM

Oh yeah. Nevermind then.

**Mordred Deschain** · 05-07-2009 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by turtlex

Yeah, you know - way back when, in the very beginning, when they announced Hugh Jackman as Wolverine... I was not happy. I thought he was a horrible choice and honestly, I was completely wrong. He's a GREAT Wolverine and I don't think anyone would or could do a better job. He had the whole character right ( meaning, the tone, the sarcasm, the angst, the pain, the strength ).

Gotta give him the thumbs up.

You should find the interview he did for the first X-Men movie. Something like he couldn't get it. The director kept telling him that he wasn't quite getting it. And Jackman said his normal daily steps are wake up early and work out, do yoga, meditate, and I guess he eats pretty healthy. And he said after reading more of the Wolverine comics (or something), he decided to stay up late, slept thru his workout and meditation time, and started drinking coffee. When he went in that day to shoot a scene for X-Men, the director said he finally got it.

Don't quote me, I can't remember what the article said, but it was something like that.

**Rjeso** · 05-07-2009 08:44 PM

Yeeeeah... umm.... what the frickin' fuck was up with Deadpool?

Wade was fun, but Deadpool? There was no Deadpool. I can't believe there's gonna be a sequel based on that character (whoever that was) in the movie.

I liked Schreibertooth, but only because I dig Liev Schreiber in all that he does.

**Kidd Ikarus** · 05-08-2009 05:22 AM

There was a story line, by Chris Claremont I think, but I'm not sure so don't hold me to it . . . Anyway, he was gearing up for some kind of plot where Sabretooth was revealed as Wolverine's father, but it never came to fruition and later lost and forgotten.

**Ka-mai** · 05-08-2009 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Mordred Deschain

Originally Posted by turtlex

Yeah, you know - way back when, in the very beginning, when they announced Hugh Jackman as Wolverine... I was not happy. I thought he was a horrible choice and honestly, I was completely wrong. He's a GREAT Wolverine and I don't think anyone would or could do a better job. He had the whole character right ( meaning, the tone, the sarcasm, the angst, the pain, the strength ).

Gotta give him the thumbs up.

You should find the interview he did for the first X-Men movie. Something like he couldn't get it. The director kept telling him that he wasn't quite getting it. And Jackman said his normal daily steps are wake up early and work out, do yoga, meditate, and I guess he eats pretty healthy. And he said after reading more of the Wolverine comics (or something), he decided to stay up late, slept thru his workout and meditation time, and started drinking coffee. When he went in that day to shoot a scene for X-Men, the director said he finally got it.

Don't quote me, I can't remember what the article said, but it was something like that.

That would definitely do it.

**Mordred Deschain** · 05-09-2009 06:23 AM

Originally Posted by Kidd Ikarus

There was a story line, by Chris Claremont I think, but I'm not sure so don't hold me to it . . . Anyway, he was gearing up for some kind of plot where Sabretooth was revealed as Wolverine's father, but it never came to fruition and later lost and forgotten.

That is interesting, I really like Chris Claremont. I have a couple of graphic novels he was involved with. Wonder why they didn't go with it, unless for some reason it would cause to much of a disturbance in the Marvel Universe.

**Seymour_Glass** · 05-10-2009 05:56 AM

I read that Claremont decided not to make Sabretooth Wolvie's dad because too many of the fans called it. And the slight obviousness factor.

**Mordred Deschain** · 05-10-2009 01:07 PM

Makes sense.

**Spencer** · 05-12-2009 04:46 AM

Originally Posted by ka-mai

As for Wolverine/Sabretooth: Matt thinks he read somewhere that Sabretooth was actually Wolverine's dad, but he's not sure. It sounds like there's a lot of answers for this question. Which brings me to the opening scene of the movie:

Spoiler:

Maybe it makes sense if you read the comics, but it was horrible to me.

That opening scene was a scene from Wolverine:Origin, and it was a big plot twist that took 3 months to build up to, explaining the situation. To do it with no buildup here is very confusing to someone who's never read the story, and of course, presented as it is here, there's no plot twist. In the book, Victor's not the other kid, the caretaker's son's name is Logan, and of course, the plot twist is that for 3 issues you think he's gonna be Wolverine, and then you go Holy Shit when you find out it's the sickly kid. Very well done in the book, not so in the movie.

Also, in the comics, Sabertooth is Wolverine's cousin, not his brother, and they were never really close.

**Spencer** · 05-12-2009 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by wolverine0712

In the Origin comic, there was a Wolvie's half brother called Dog, but they never said any more than that.

This is the character called Logan, his nickname is Dog, and is most assuredly NOT Victor Creed.

**Mordred Deschain** · 05-12-2009 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Spencer

Originally Posted by wolverine0712

In the Origin comic, there was a Wolvie's half brother called Dog, but they never said any more than that.

This is the character called Logan, his nickname is Dog, and is most assuredly NOT Victor Creed.

**obscurejude** · 05-12-2009 03:37 PM

I liked the movie for what it was. I liked Ryan Reynolds, too, and I don't know why so many people don't. I used to watch Two Guys, A Girl, and a Pizza Place all the time from way back when and have enjoyed him ever since.

It was a good night out, but nothing particularly special, though Liev did a great job. He was on NPR's Wait, Wait Don't Tell Me show last week and was talking about the shakespearean elements of comic books which I found interesting. He also had a great sense of humor.

**Ka-mai** · 05-14-2009 05:32 PM

I basically don't like Ryan Reynolds because he looks completely vapid all of the time. Also once someone does enough shitty movies, I lose respect for them unless they come back with something really, really cool (Like the guy from Harold and Kumar playing Sulu... totally redeemed himself). This wasn't good enough.

You guys are making me want to read the comics now.

**Mordred Deschain** · 05-14-2009 05:49 PM

I will take Ryan Reynolds over Dane Cook anytime, as far as crappy movies. I use to watch 2 guys and a pizza place all the time to. Ryan was also in Blade trinity I think.

**obscurejude** · 05-14-2009 06:46 PM

Yeah, he was the only good thing about Trinity in my opinion. Comic relief in the midst of one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Sorry to the Blade fans.

**Ka-mai** · 05-15-2009 06:44 PM

Dane Cook really isn't that good either. He was really funny, but then I guess he got popular and decided he didn't need to work so hard anymore or something. He wasn't awful in Dan In Real Life though.

**Mordred Deschain** · 05-15-2009 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by ka-mai

Dane Cook really isn't that good either. He was really funny, but then I guess he got popular and decided he didn't need to work so hard anymore or something. He wasn't awful in Dan In Real Life though.

I agree, his roll in Dan In Real Life was alright.

**Empath of the White** · 05-16-2009 07:31 AM

I finally saw this last night with some friends. It was alright, but in the beginning

Spoiler:

All in all, I give it a 7. It was entertaining, but not something I could see myself buying once it hits DVD.

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