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    Default Blaine - and your feelings about it

    I see that many folks like Blaine very much moreover there are people who feel sorry for him.
    For my part I liked the character because it was interesting and new but I felt no sorry for it at all. For me it was hard to think of me as a train and when I was first reading it I couldn't. Now I can.
    What did he do what he had done with the people in Lud? Was he lonely? Was he insane? Can a robot be insane at all? Have feelings?

    Let's talk about our choo-choo Blain.

    Roland would have understood.

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    Blaine was great as a character. It's weird is'nt it that we talk of this train as a 'character' in the book! - very skillful/creative of SK to suck us into that.
    Was I sorry for him - not at all.
    Yes Letti, I believe he was indeed crazy. I think Blaine went well beyond our concept of 'robot'. Of course we are told anyway that 'Blaine' was not just the train we saw, but also (and mainly?) the banks & banks of computers back in Lud (& elsewhere??) that linked to the train.
    Blaine had acquired emotions, and that is what made him more than robot & therefore enabled him to go crazy. (Just as Patricia had emotions & that drove her to suicide (with Blaine's help of course)).

    Would this work in the 'real' universe - No. Does it work in King's universe - hell Yes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManOfWesternesse View Post
    Blaine was great as a character. It's weird is'nt it that we talk of this train as a 'character' in the book! - very skillful/creative of SK to suck us into that.
    Was I sorry for him - not at all.
    Yes Letti, I believe he was indeed crazy. I think Blaine went well beyond our concept of 'robot'. Of course we are told anyway that 'Blaine' was not just the train we saw, but also (and mainly?) the banks & banks of computers back in Lud (& elsewhere??) that linked to the train.
    Blaine had acquired emotions, and that is what made him more than robot & therefore enabled him to go crazy. (Just as Patricia had emotions & that drove her to suicide (with Blaine's help of course)).

    Would this work in the 'real' universe - No. Does it work in King's universe - hell Yes!
    All very well said Brian. I thought Blaine an ingenious creation on King's part. A psychopathic super-computer personified by a super-luxury monorail... brilliant! As for Letti's question... no, I did not feel a shred of sympathy for Blaine. Crazy or not, there is no excusing what he did to the people of Lud twice-over with the God drums and the going-away present. My feelings echo Jake's, Blaine is a pain.

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    And that is the truth!

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    I had sympathy for the poor thing during the riddles--he really seemed like he was once the height of service to those who built him.

    As time went on, he got lonely and it drove him crazy. Seems kind of tragic to me.

    That's not an excuse, he was a pain when our Katet met him for sure.
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    i liked him he was my favorite character in the series and i felt some remorse for him. his action of lud before his departure i think was right due to how he had been misleading them for so long and completely destoing all life of lud

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    How could I not? He was made both sentient and powerful, then "abandoned" first by his makers, then by those who at least knew how to use/interact with him, and finally by Patricia. Tragic, tragic. I think I most felt for him when Roland shows Blaine that he can be rude.

    Still, I think it's quite possible to feel a mix of hate and pity. I also hated Blaine, and I believe he deserved what he got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woofer View Post
    How could I not?
    I don't know but for me it's quite easy.
    I might be evil but I felt no pity no sorry at all.
    It was a damn great character but just a big speaking crazy toaster.

    Roland would have understood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
    I might be evil but I felt no pity no sorry at all.
    It was a damn great character but just a big speaking crazy toaster.
    I am inclined to feel the same

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    Normally I would keep my feelings on something like this to myself, but its late, and I feel like admitting this.

    I loved Blaine. Really. I mean, Blaine was indeed a pain, and a jerk to boot, but I think that is why I loved it.

    I agree that the character itself seems very tragic, Matt. That seems a good assessment for a hyper-intelligent super-computer/monorail repeatedly abandoned and finally driven to insanity and unspeakable acts.

    And while I do not agree with its course of action, I do feel sadness that it was ever forced to come to that at all. A creation like Blaine should not be left to itself, which was a mistake on the part of its makers. So in that case, I don't believe it was entirely Blaine's fault that it lost the mind (and was able to have festered negative emotion) which it had gained over the years.

    But of course, that does not excuse Blaine of what it did, and was willing to do simply on a whim. It should still be held responsible for its actions, because at one point it did know that such actions were not tolerable or proper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
    I might be evil but I felt no pity no sorry at all.
    It was a damn great character but just a big speaking crazy toaster.
    I am inclined to feel the same
    "My name plate medallion Says never trust a hal 9000"

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    He didn't present himself as a like-able to me, but he was a unique character. Imean...a talking insane train. Whoda thunkit.
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    Can, I am so happy you wrote down your opinion. Why would you keep your feelings?
    Anyway, you are absolutely right. It wasn't Blaine's fault, of course not. I think we can never blame a toaster or a car or any robots for this or that. That's why I can't hate Blaine, either. Because it wasn't his fault he had no responsibility.

    Roland would have understood.

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    Nope, it was ka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storyslinger View Post
    Nope, it was ka.
    Brian... isn't it way too easy??

    Roland would have understood.

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    Probably, but, he still was sadistic

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    I meant it's too wasy to always say "ka" to a question.
    But yes of course Blaine was sadistic.

    Roland would have understood.

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    Tell that to Roland, it does make it easy to answer any question, though.

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    Letti,

    I think he deserves a little blame for being a douche. He's a little more advanced than a toaster and thus capable (to some extent) of making decisions with moral consequences that he understood. I'll give you another example. Andy (messenger robot and many functions) was also a douche. But Nigel (domestic) was really nice to Susannah in Fedic and she felt really bad about shooting his eyes out. King even describes her remorse by noting that Susannah began to think of Nigel as "him" rather than "it" after he helped her to the New York/Fedic door.

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    I wish I could tell him.

    Roland would have understood.

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    kaka

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    Quote Originally Posted by obscurejude View Post
    I'll give you another example. Andy (messenger robot and many functions) was also a douche. But Nigel (domestic) was really nice to Susannah in Fedic and she felt really bad about shooting his eyes out. King even describes her remorse by noting that Susannah began to think of Nigel as "him" rather than "it" after he helped her to the New York/Fedic door.
    exactly OJ. how 'bout stuttering bill as well. both of those showed that not all A.I. in the multiverse are sadistic sociopaths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armand St Pierre View Post
    "My name plate medallion Says never trust a hal 9000"
    My computer is called Hal, I sometimes wonder if thats tempting fate

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    Yeah R of G. Another good example. Nigel was cool as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkthoughts View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Armand St Pierre View Post
    "My name plate medallion Says never trust a hal 9000"
    My computer is called Hal, I sometimes wonder if thats tempting fate
    That would scare the hal out of me.

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