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    The paper conservationist I mentioned in an earlier post brought up some interesting points/problems that he has seen in his years of working in the field. These were mostly related to "acid free" materials. He has seen slipcases made with acid free paper and cardboard but put together with a glue that was not archival quality. He said he has seen problems with transfer of the glue to the book and dj with adverse effects. He said also to be aware of mylar dust jacket covers that have acid free mylar and backing paper but joined with non-archival glue. He said he has seen some of these have problems with glue transfer to the dust jacket they were supposed to protect.

    I'll have to read the descriptions for BroDart and DemCo dust jacket protectors more closely. I honestly have no idea if they use archival quality glue or not.

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    Great comment on the glue. I have thought this many times. I actually went to Hobby Lobby and bought a tube of archival glue specifically for use in my library. I have fixed minor corners of slipcases with this glue and feel comfortable with it not ruining my books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlosdetweiller View Post
    The paper conservationist I mentioned in an earlier post brought up some interesting points/problems that he has seen in his years of working in the field. These were mostly related to "acid free" materials. He has seen slipcases made with acid free paper and cardboard but put together with a glue that was not archival quality. He said he has seen problems with transfer of the glue to the book and dj with adverse effects. He said also to be aware of mylar dust jacket covers that have acid free mylar and backing paper but joined with non-archival glue. He said he has seen some of these have problems with glue transfer to the dust jacket they were supposed to protect.

    I'll have to read the descriptions for BroDart and DemCo dust jacket protectors more closely. I honestly have no idea if they use archival quality glue or not.
    The Just-a-Fold III covers I get from Brodart says they use a pH neutral PVA adhesive. I would hope that it is archival quality.

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    I use Brodart for all my books. Hopefully the glue is not a problem. I don't recall which brand I get. I think it's the Just a Fold.

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    Oh God. Now you guys are mentioning the wrong types of glue?! I never even thought about that as I would assume that companies like Brodart were making their wraps properly with the right adhesive. I guess time will tell if a dust jacket sticks to it. Maybe the wrong glue will simply stop working?
    I buy "just a fold II" and forget which else.
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    I took his statement to mean that some people use tape to "seal" their Brodart covers. I have seen this before. I would assume that maybe some use glue also. I didn't think he meant that Brodart used a non-archival adhesive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    I took his statement to mean that some people use tape to "seal" their Brodart covers. I have seen this before. I would assume that maybe some use glue also. I didn't think he meant that Brodart used a non-archival adhesive.
    The conservationist told me that some items sold as archival on eBay and elsewhere use nonarchival adhesive. He didn't say which brands. I took it to mean that I (we) should investigate before we buy any of this stuff to make sure that all of the material used is archival. Of course sealing the covers with Scotch tape is a no-no.

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    This makes me think about the first Stephen King book I ever bought. It was a 1st UK edition of EOTD. I wrapped it in a plastic cover, not Brodart. Then I stuck down the ends with tape to the plastic not the book, but the tape was exposed to the inside boards. Didn't know what I was doing of course. Over the years it obviously caused the resin to stain the inside. I still have that book and like to look at it from time to time.

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    I use comic bags to cover some of my paperbacks. I then use standard scotch tape to close them. The tape never touches the book. What are the thoughts on this? Should I find archival tape?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlosdetweiller View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    I took his statement to mean that some people use tape to "seal" their Brodart covers. I have seen this before. I would assume that maybe some use glue also. I didn't think he meant that Brodart used a non-archival adhesive.
    The conservationist told me that some items sold as archival on eBay and elsewhere use nonarchival adhesive. He didn't say which brands. I took it to mean that I (we) should investigate before we buy any of this stuff to make sure that all of the material used is archival. Of course sealing the covers with Scotch tape is a no-no.
    Good to know. Didn't mean to put words in your mouth. I certainly will keep mindful of what I buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    I use comic bags to cover some of my paperbacks. I then use standard scotch tape to close them. The tape never touches the book. What are the thoughts on this? Should I find archival tape?
    As long as the tape never touches the book, I think you're okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhanic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    I use comic bags to cover some of my paperbacks. I then use standard scotch tape to close them. The tape never touches the book. What are the thoughts on this? Should I find archival tape?
    As long as the tape never touches the book, I think you're okay.

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    If the tape isn't in contact with or in the environment of the book then you're fine.
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    Some Paperback Books in my Collection have been in plastic for over 50 years.

    around 25 years ago I did replace the dusty bags for new (Stopped collecting Paperback almost 20 years ago now.)

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    I love the older paperbacks. I picked up a few the other day. Tales From the Crypt from early 60s never even been opened. It was 25¢ at Half Price Books.

    Thanks for the info, by the way!

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    OK folks, new set from Jeff is in hand and (IMHO) they look great!!

    Jeff is now accepting orders, he's gonna be busy, so get in quick! Price will be £12.95 plus shipping as before as Jeff has once again paid for the plates in lieu of the quantity of orders based on member feedback. If you have stated in this thread that you will be buying one or more, please do so as Jeff has had the plates made on this basis. I'm also going to leave it a few days (so everyone here can get orders in first) and then I intend on posting their availability on SKCollector, CD and some other SK forums.

    For those that have not ordered from Jeff before, please email direct to jeffrey.whiley@ntlworld.com. Note Jeff is UK based.

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    Order placed! I hope i was first!!! I love them!! Please start working on "IT"

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroppygoblin View Post
    OK folks, new set from Jeff is in hand and (IMHO) they look great!!

    Jeff is now accepting orders, he's gonna be busy, so get in quick! Price will be £12.95 plus shipping as before as Jeff has once again paid for the plates in lieu of the quantity of orders based on member feedback. If you have stated in this thread that you will be buying one or more, please do so as Jeff has had the plates made on this basis. I'm also going to leave it a few days (so everyone here can get orders in first) and then I intend on posting their availability on SKCollector, CD and some other SK forums.

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    Looks awesome!! Keeping the dust off my signed books!!!!

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    Those look amazing. Unfortunately, I cannot afford any at the moment. I am curious why the art for Cujo is different and Firestarter doesn't include the dash (-).

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    Ordered!

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    Looking good and I kept my word. I just sent Jeff an email asking for all 6 in black. Thanks!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by skyofcrack View Post
    Those look amazing. Unfortunately, I cannot afford any at the moment. I am curious why the art for Cujo is different and Firestarter doesn't include the dash (-).
    The dash got dropped as I felt it was cleaner without. You can see it was there originally on a post a few pages back. Cujo is different because the original cover is a very blurred image of the dogs snout. It really didn't lend itself to a two color image that is required for the embossing. The majority of my time and effort has been in recreating the original cover in this format, much as it pains me, there are going to be covers that just cant be made to look good. (BTW Different Seasons was a royal PITA!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by stroppygoblin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skyofcrack View Post
    Those look amazing. Unfortunately, I cannot afford any at the moment. I am curious why the art for Cujo is different and Firestarter doesn't include the dash (-).
    The dash got dropped as I felt it was cleaner without. You can see it was there originally on a post a few pages back. Cujo is different because the original cover is a very blurred image of the dogs snout. It really didn't lend itself to a two color image that is required for the embossing. The majority of my time and effort has been in recreating the original cover in this format, much as it pains me, there are going to be covers that just cant be made to look good. (BTW Different Seasons was a royal PITA!)
    I won't argue but the Cujo doesn't interest me with that art. Firestarter on the spine without the dash is now two separate words. Still a great job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyofcrack View Post
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    Those look amazing. Unfortunately, I cannot afford any at the moment. I am curious why the art for Cujo is different and Firestarter doesn't include the dash (-).
    The dash got dropped as I felt it was cleaner without. You can see it was there originally on a post a few pages back. Cujo is different because the original cover is a very blurred image of the dogs snout. It really didn't lend itself to a two color image that is required for the embossing. The majority of my time and effort has been in recreating the original cover in this format, much as it pains me, there are going to be covers that just cant be made to look good. (BTW Different Seasons was a royal PITA!)
    I won't argue but the Cujo doesn't interest me with that art. Firestarter on the spine without the dash is now two separate words. Still a great job.

    Since you aren't buying any, you do not qualify for the Money Back Guarantee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Flagg View Post
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    Those look amazing. Unfortunately, I cannot afford any at the moment. I am curious why the art for Cujo is different and Firestarter doesn't include the dash (-).
    The dash got dropped as I felt it was cleaner without. You can see it was there originally on a post a few pages back. Cujo is different because the original cover is a very blurred image of the dogs snout. It really didn't lend itself to a two color image that is required for the embossing. The majority of my time and effort has been in recreating the original cover in this format, much as it pains me, there are going to be covers that just cant be made to look good. (BTW Different Seasons was a royal PITA!)
    I won't argue but the Cujo doesn't interest me with that art. Firestarter on the spine without the dash is now two separate words. Still a great job.

    Since you aren't buying any, you do not qualify for the Money Back Guarantee.
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