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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean View Post

    T2 is winning... if it wins, I won't be brokenhearted, I loved it... It's only that Twelve Monkeys is a thoroughly bears' type of movie, and T2 isn't.
    That is what makes T2 a special movie in it's own right. It's one of those view movies that is universally loved. It hits so many notes and hits them all perfectly. The only flub is the 'dramatically swinging a melee object to fake break an important object/kill a person' that I believe is only in the special edition, and should have stayed on the cutting room floor...but that edition also contains Arnold learning how to smile which is pure gold so I guess it evens out.
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    Just need one vote for 12 Monkeys to tie, two to win!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattrick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jean View Post

    T2 is winning... if it wins, I won't be brokenhearted, I loved it... It's only that Twelve Monkeys is a thoroughly bears' type of movie, and T2 isn't.
    That is what makes T2 a special movie in it's own right. It's one of those view movies that is universally loved. It hits so many notes and hits them all perfectly. The only flub is the 'dramatically swinging a melee object to fake break an important object/kill a person' that I believe is only in the special edition, and should have stayed on the cutting room floor...but that edition also contains Arnold learning how to smile which is pure gold so I guess it evens out.
    Yes!

    And I totally wouldn't mind it being #2 in our tournament!

    Time to close the poll while Monkeys are still leading!!!

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    As much as I love T2, Twelve Monkeys is exactly the kind of time travel story that I adore. Straightforward and yet complex, well-thought through, no tricks or moments that leave you scratching your head and thinking, "hang on...", (Looper, I'm looking at you,) and that's very tricky to find in the genre. On top of that is a really great mystery story and some pretty cool characters. Couldn't resist voting for it, as it's exactly the kind of time travel story that I want to write.


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    bah gawd now it's a tie!
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    NOTE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Girlystevedave View Post
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    I voted for T2, obviously!
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    T2 T2 T2 T2.... come on.. this should never have gotten to a tie! Bruce Wilis over Arnie??????????????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by fernandito View Post
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    The critics and fans are not always right however I would like to put these *stats out there:

    T2

    Academy Awards Nominations
    Total Nominations: 6
    Total Wins: 4
    Editing
    Cinematography
    Makeup (WIN)
    Visual Effects (WIN)
    Sound (WIN)
    Sound Editing (WIN)

    Total Lifetime Grosses
    Domestic: $204,843,345 39.4%
    + Foreign: $315,000,000 60.6%
    = Worldwide: $519,843,345

    12 Monkeys

    Academy Awards Nominations

    Supporting Actor: Brad Pitt
    Costume Design

    Total Nominations: 2
    Total Wins: 0

    Total Lifetime Grosses
    Domestic: $57,141,459 33.8%
    + Foreign: $111,698,000 66.2%
    = Worldwide: $168,839,459

    *Stats and info provided by boxofficemojo

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    Quote Originally Posted by fernandito View Post
    NOTE

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    Any posts after 12:15 PST (time thread closes) will NOT be counted.
    I assume posts from unique members. So if I had two posts favoring 12M, that'd count as one.

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    Based on the sales figures and industry recognized achievements T2 is the obvious choice.

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    and we need more 12 Monkeys votes!!!

    shit, I so wish I could get my former eloquence back for five minutes!

    the only thing I can say now is: Guys, it's a damn good film!!! It's one of the best films bears have seen in their long, eventful, filled with movie-watching life

    just... remember the man on the street. Remember the airport. Remember the graffiti. Remember Madeleine Stowe's voice, for God's sake!

    (that, not talking about the cinematography, the story, the ideas, the layers, the emotions... the pure genius of it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Staad View Post
    The critics and fans are not always right however I would like to put these *stats out there:

    T2

    Academy Awards Nominations
    Total Nominations: 6
    Total Wins: 4
    Editing
    Cinematography
    Makeup (WIN)
    Visual Effects (WIN)
    Sound (WIN)
    Sound Editing (WIN)

    Total Lifetime Grosses
    Domestic: $204,843,345 39.4%
    + Foreign: $315,000,000 60.6%
    = Worldwide: $519,843,345

    12 Monkeys

    Academy Awards Nominations

    Supporting Actor: Brad Pitt
    Costume Design

    Total Nominations: 2
    Total Wins: 0

    Total Lifetime Grosses
    Domestic: $57,141,459 33.8%
    + Foreign: $111,698,000 66.2%
    = Worldwide: $168,839,459

    *Stats and info provided by boxofficemojo
    That should end all discussion right there.... and lets be honest guys... 12 Monkeys is NOT cult status nor timeless like T2!
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    excuse me? Are we voting the Academy Awards or the best Sci-Fi according to .org?

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    Twelve Monkeys by far. Much more creative and visual appealing!
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    hear, hear!!!

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    Since when do the box office and awards make a classic? Plenty of all-time great films failed at the box office and/or didn't fare well at the Oscars or other awards. Doesn't mean anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo View Post
    Since when do the box office and awards make a classic?
    Precisely what I mean. Precisely.

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    I feel those stats are a good indicator. They certainly do not tell the whole story or provide every bit of information however they do provide insight as to what the industry felt about the film(s) and how the general public felt about the film(s).

    Personal feelings and opinions can buck the system every time. I did not think 12 Monkeys was very good whereas I thought T2 was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo View Post
    Since when do the box office and awards make a classic? Plenty of all-time great films failed at the box office and/or didn't fare well at the Oscars or other awards. Doesn't mean anything.
    Agree.... look at Shawshank... it was a dud at the box office... BUT it is a reason in a dead tie to sway a certain way...
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    Quote Originally Posted by becca69 View Post
    Much more creative and visual appealing!
    I love 12 Monkeys, but there is nothing in that film more visually appealing than the kind of things you'll see in T2. Whatever things 12M might have an edge on, SFX is certainly not one of them!
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    T2. I've seen at least 50 times.

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    Twelve Monkeys is a much smarter time travel film than Terminator 2, I think. As a piece of cinema, Twelve Monkeys is also better, on every level. T2 is certainly the more fun flick, granted, but it's designed to be that. Both are not, for me, in the top 5 or 10 of all-time sci-fi films (where's 2001, The Day the Earth Stood Still, Blade Runner, Forbidden Planet, etc. etc.?), but 12M is definitely better than T2. Again, the original Terminator was better than T2, as we discussed earlier And when I say better, I mean as a film, as a piece of cinematic art. T2 is pure popcorn fun and it's excellent at that.

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