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    Be my creator a sovereign who never has yet been crowned
    Or a blue-eyed carpenter whose words are so very profound,

    Be my number the same as the Maugham’s coin or lucky for the Chinese,
    Old as I am, I’m still bearing my shields, and running as light as the breeze.

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    When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)

    bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    wow, still to takers! guys, I promise it's an easy one!!

    Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
    When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)

    bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I don't have a guess.

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    the answer is one word, a noun!

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    When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)

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    messiah


    Does whatever a spiderman does.

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    it's a good guess (probably inspired by the carpenter part?), but the answer is much simpler!

    all clues must work somehow! the only part of the riddle that is not really a clue is "as light as the breeze" that is there for the rhyme's sake

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    When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)

    bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Snake? or Horse?
    "A real limited edition, far from being an expensive autograph stapled to a novel, is a treasure. And like all treasures do, it transforms the responsible owner into a caretaker, and being a caretaker of something as fragile and easily destroyed as ideas and images is not a bad thing but a good one...and so is the re-evaluation of what books are and what they do that necessarily follows." - Stephen King

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    think of the two "creators" and of the two "numbers"; then the shields

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    bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    This lady is boggled by bears' hints as well as their riddles...

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    maybe if you think of the numbers first it will help

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    ok, i'm going to post my (limited) thoughts on this so I can
    a) help others get to the solution
    OR (more likely)
    b) provide amusement at my feeble thought processes

    so, clue summary:
    1. its a single word and it's a noun (could be proper noun, could be common noun - not clear yet)
    2. it has to meet all the clues
    3. the first two are words, the second two are numbers, the third is unknown but has something to do with 'shields'

    so lets look at line 1 and 2, which bears refers to as 'creators'.
    Line 1 refers to 'a sovereign who never has yet been crowned'. My first thought on this was a coin (ie a gold sovereign) but bears then referred to it as a creator. So am now trying to think of a an uncrowned King or Monarch from history. I also thought God might fit this.
    Line 2 This HAS to be Jesus.
    Line 3 A number that is the same as (presumably equals) 'Maugham’s coin or lucky for the Chinese' - Lucky for the Chinese has to be the number 8 (although I threw in some guesses around Chinese new year). Maugham’s coin is proving tricky to get to a number. I can only find reference to a Maugham’s coin in the novel by W. Somerset (Ashenden) where a coin is flipped. I can't find any reference to what type of coin or its numerical value.
    Line 4 'Old as I am, I’m still bearing my shields' - Old as I am indicates whatever the noun is has been around a while, so nothing modern. 'bearing my shields' has me flummoxed!

    so that leaves me with something thats been around a while, created by God or Jesus and comes in 8's ....
    "A real limited edition, far from being an expensive autograph stapled to a novel, is a treasure. And like all treasures do, it transforms the responsible owner into a caretaker, and being a caretaker of something as fragile and easily destroyed as ideas and images is not a bad thing but a good one...and so is the re-evaluation of what books are and what they do that necessarily follows." - Stephen King

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroppygoblin View Post
    1. its a single word and it's a noun (could be proper noun, could be common noun - not clear yet)
    yes
    2. it has to meet all the clues
    yes
    3. the first two are words
    nouns, anyway

    the second two are numbers
    yes

    the third is unknown but has something to do with 'shields'
    quite

    am now trying to think of a an uncrowned King or Monarch from history. I also thought God might fit this.
    clue 1
    Spoiler:
    look closer


    Line 2 This HAS to be Jesus.
    No! The carpenter part requires some around-the-corner thinking, while all the rest is quite straightforward

    Line 3 A number that is the same as (presumably equals) 'Maugham’s coin or lucky for the Chinese' - Lucky for the Chinese has to be the number 8 (although I threw in some guesses around Chinese new year).
    YES!!! so, one of the numbers is 8!

    Maugham’s coin is proving tricky to get to a number. I can only find reference to a Maugham’s coin in the novel by W. Somerset (Ashenden) where a coin is flipped. I can't find any reference to what type of coin or its numerical value.
    wrong track

    Line 4 'Old as I am, I’m still bearing my shields' - Old as I am indicates whatever the noun is has been around a while, so nothing modern.
    depends...

    so that leaves me with something thats been around a while, created by God or Jesus and comes in 8's ....
    no, alas, no! except the been around a while part

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    bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Is it Christine?

    uncrowned Monarch = Stephen King (created the book)
    Blue eyed Carpenter = John Carpenter (created the film)
    numbers are 5 and 8 (Still don't get the 5 but 8 is lucky for Chinese) (Christine is a Plymouth Fury '58 )
    Old and shields, presume this is a reference to the age of the car and the fact it can restore itself?
    "A real limited edition, far from being an expensive autograph stapled to a novel, is a treasure. And like all treasures do, it transforms the responsible owner into a caretaker, and being a caretaker of something as fragile and easily destroyed as ideas and images is not a bad thing but a good one...and so is the re-evaluation of what books are and what they do that necessarily follows." - Stephen King

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    No, but so close!!!!!!!!!!!!

    John Carpenter and 5 are both wrong, but the rest is only one step away! Stephen King is correct, of course.

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    When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)

    bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Damn! thought I had it! Doh, thinking cap back on...
    "A real limited edition, far from being an expensive autograph stapled to a novel, is a treasure. And like all treasures do, it transforms the responsible owner into a caretaker, and being a caretaker of something as fragile and easily destroyed as ideas and images is not a bad thing but a good one...and so is the re-evaluation of what books are and what they do that necessarily follows." - Stephen King

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    Buick ?
    "A real limited edition, far from being an expensive autograph stapled to a novel, is a treasure. And like all treasures do, it transforms the responsible owner into a caretaker, and being a caretaker of something as fragile and easily destroyed as ideas and images is not a bad thing but a good one...and so is the re-evaluation of what books are and what they do that necessarily follows." - Stephen King

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroppygoblin View Post
    Buick ?
    I think youve got it...thats the only 8 in an SK book that I know of.

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    yes! now, who is the carpenter and what is the other number?

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    bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean View Post
    yes! now, who is the carpenter and what is the other number?

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    I'd guess at Karen Carpenter - thinking about the number and researching her link to Buick
    "A real limited edition, far from being an expensive autograph stapled to a novel, is a treasure. And like all treasures do, it transforms the responsible owner into a caretaker, and being a caretaker of something as fragile and easily destroyed as ideas and images is not a bad thing but a good one...and so is the re-evaluation of what books are and what they do that necessarily follows." - Stephen King

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    Is it room 218?
    a carpenter built it...and it has an 8...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroppygoblin View Post
    I'd guess at Karen Carpenter - thinking about the number and researching her link to Buick
    it's the first time in my life that I hear of a Karen Carpenter...

    clue 2
    Spoiler:
    the German for "carpenter" is Zimmermann


    Quote Originally Posted by ladysai View Post
    Is it room 218?
    a carpenter built it...and it has an 8...
    ?????

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    When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)

    bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by stroppygoblin View Post
    I'd guess at Karen Carpenter - thinking about the number and researching her link to Buick
    it's the first time in my life that I hear of a Karen Carpenter...

    clue 2
    Spoiler:
    the German for "carpenter" is Zimmermann


    Quote Originally Posted by ladysai View Post
    Is it room 218?
    a carpenter built it...and it has an 8...
    ?????
    Doh! - you are dealing with an English Goblin bears, we only speak one language and are fluent in only 2 more (American and Australian)

    As for Karen Carpenter - you must have heard her music??? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Carpenter
    bears should definitely listen if they have not - she has the most hauntingly beautiful voice ever.
    "A real limited edition, far from being an expensive autograph stapled to a novel, is a treasure. And like all treasures do, it transforms the responsible owner into a caretaker, and being a caretaker of something as fragile and easily destroyed as ideas and images is not a bad thing but a good one...and so is the re-evaluation of what books are and what they do that necessarily follows." - Stephen King

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by stroppygoblin View Post
    I'd guess at Karen Carpenter - thinking about the number and researching her link to Buick
    it's the first time in my life that I hear of a Karen Carpenter...
    http://youtu.be/YR1ujXx2p-I


    Quote Originally Posted by Jean View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ladysai View Post
    Is it room 218?
    a carpenter built it...and it has an 8...
    ?????
    Exactly.

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    thank you goblin! bears love beautiful voices!

    you don't have to know languages to make that connection... maybe you should be an American, but, then again, bears are not. LOL, I thought it was so obvious it would stick out like a sore thumb now that we know the correct (though still incomplete) answer!

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