I've always said Targaryen as "tar-GAR-yen" I tend to not have much creativity in pronunciation. That's how it looks, so that's how it's said.
I've always said Targaryen as "tar-GAR-yen" I tend to not have much creativity in pronunciation. That's how it looks, so that's how it's said.
I may be wrong. I never really knew how palaver was pronounced until I was watching 101 Dalmatians with my kids.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdvGa...eature=related
skip ahead to 8:20
"So many vows. They make you swear and swear. Defend the King, obey the King, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak. But what if your father despises the King? What if the King massacres the innocent? It's too much. No matter what you do, you're forsaking one vow or another."
that's how it sounds to mee, I just wrote it different, I guess.Originally Posted by alkanto
I've always said Targaryen as "tar-GAR-yen" I tend to not have much creativity in pronunciation. That's how it looks, so that's how it's said.
"So many vows. They make you swear and swear. Defend the King, obey the King, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak. But what if your father despises the King? What if the King massacres the innocent? It's too much. No matter what you do, you're forsaking one vow or another."
Well, I suppose I'm not too far off then....and the clip from 101 Dalmatians uses a different pronunciation that I do as well...I say "PAL-ah-ver"...who knows?
Oh no have I been saying Palaver wrong too?
Heh...the pronunciation debate, with both series!
In ASoIaF, there were also two different readers of the audiobooks. The first, Roy Dotrice, read the first three books and had his way of pronouncing names and places. The second, John Lee (Sauroman from the LOtR movies) read Feast for Crows, and he apparently never listened to the readings by Dotrice. I was lost trying to figure out who the heck he was talking about when I started FFC!
I guess it really doesnt matter as long as we figure out who does what to whom.
And I would really like to hear from Howland Reed, too. All the frog people are too enigmatic!
I wouldn't know about that, Ladysai, I refuse to listen to audiobooks.
"So many vows. They make you swear and swear. Defend the King, obey the King, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak. But what if your father despises the King? What if the King massacres the innocent? It's too much. No matter what you do, you're forsaking one vow or another."
Refuse? Why's that?
They're great for re-reads...if you get a good reader.
Like Frank Muller, who did the first 4 DT books...
When I read I auto-hypnotize. Seriously, people can talk to me and I don't hear them, or by the time I realize someone said something to me it's like 5 minutes later. Audiobooks are just radio to me. I don't "see" it happening in my head. Books are a movie in my head. IDK, can't explain better than that.
Anyways, regarding what we were talking about the other day, I'm on page 450 of AFFC on my current reread, and this is where they explain valar dohaeris.
Then stay... but remember, the House of Black and White is not a home for orphans. All men must serve beneath this roof. Valar dohaeris is how we say it here. Remain if you will, but know that we shall require your ebedience. At all times and in all things. If you cannot obey, you must depart.
"So many vows. They make you swear and swear. Defend the King, obey the King, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak. But what if your father despises the King? What if the King massacres the innocent? It's too much. No matter what you do, you're forsaking one vow or another."
Also when Dany buys the Unsullied in a Clash of Swords the slave girls says Valar Morghulis
Here's a link with some page numbers and quotes:
http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/mlarchi...morghulis.html
whomever made that page probably made it before AFFC.
Also, a wildling girl wouldn't have the education to even have heard the phrases, let alone know what they meant. Her phrase is just coincidence, IMO.
"So many vows. They make you swear and swear. Defend the King, obey the King, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak. But what if your father despises the King? What if the King massacres the innocent? It's too much. No matter what you do, you're forsaking one vow or another."
I havent gotten there yet, so I have no opinion. I did think it was funny that page is made on Angelfire
I thought you were on AFFC already? Still on SOS?
"So many vows. They make you swear and swear. Defend the King, obey the King, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak. But what if your father despises the King? What if the King massacres the innocent? It's too much. No matter what you do, you're forsaking one vow or another."
I'm on SOS still, but halfway through! I have so many orders right now that I have to cut my extra ride and read time so I can get them made.
Work is good! Money is good!Pace yourself, maybe by the time you finish AFFC DoD will be out.
"So many vows. They make you swear and swear. Defend the King, obey the King, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak. But what if your father despises the King? What if the King massacres the innocent? It's too much. No matter what you do, you're forsaking one vow or another."
I still have high hopes at the moment that it might be done in time to be released in conjunction with the series premiere in April based on what GRRM and his publisher have said about how much he has left and how a big chunk of the book has already been edited/laid out for a quicker publishing turn around.
But come April there is a very good chance that my hopes could be dashed into the ground.
I am Daenerys Stormborn and I will take what is mine. With fire and blood.
THIS!
"So many vows. They make you swear and swear. Defend the King, obey the King, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak. But what if your father despises the King? What if the King massacres the innocent? It's too much. No matter what you do, you're forsaking one vow or another."
Thats what my husband keeps telling me, slow down because once its done its done.Work is good! Money is good!
SO I watched two episodes of Dexter while I rode the bike last night
Congrats on the new healthy baby!
thank you.
"So many vows. They make you swear and swear. Defend the King, obey the King, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak. But what if your father despises the King? What if the King massacres the innocent? It's too much. No matter what you do, you're forsaking one vow or another."
You're welcome! I wasnt sure if you saw that in the other thread. I of course came to this one first! I might get some reading in today, but only 30 minutes the other 60 minutes of bike time are for Dexter
I need to continue my AFFC read through. I keep getting sidetracked by other novels, specifically my DT reread
Cersei's character arc : Sulk. Scheme. Screw. Sulk. Scheme. Screw. Sulk. Scheme. Screw. Sulk. Scheme. Screw. Sulk. Scheme. Screw. Sulk. Scheme. Screw. Sulk. Scheme. Screw. ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ..........
I am gaining a little more respect, not much but more, for Sansa. She may surprise me.
People love frozen yogurt. I don't know what to tell you.
At least she is consistant
lol, that she is. i can't believe how stupid she ends up being, though.
"So many vows. They make you swear and swear. Defend the King, obey the King, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak. But what if your father despises the King? What if the King massacres the innocent? It's too much. No matter what you do, you're forsaking one vow or another."
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