Agreed. He seems to be able to, at the very least, make magic doors. This makes him at least as powerful as Sheemie, and I don't mean that as sarcastically as it could be taken. Walter has more power than most.Originally Posted by Dud-a-chum?
Agreed. He seems to be able to, at the very least, make magic doors. This makes him at least as powerful as Sheemie, and I don't mean that as sarcastically as it could be taken. Walter has more power than most.
Sure, but is that anything against the spider boy? I don't think it is.
Roland himself says that stories get overblown after time--I just believe that Flagg was mostly a cut rate magician.
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Sure, but is that anything against the spider boy? I don't think it is.
Roland himself says that stories get overblown after time--I just believe that Flagg was mostly a cut rate magician.
Sorry about that guys.
Everything I posted in my last comment should give you an idea of what Flagg can actually do. Given this evidence, I think Flagg could have gotten away from Mordred, that's just my opinion. Even if Flagg wasn't as powerfull as he was made out to be, it doesn't mean he was completely mortal, either, and yet that is what he is "revealed" to be in book seven.
I guess what I'm saying is: had Flagg not been described these ways in the past, I would have no problem in believing that he could be taken out by Mordred so easily, but since there was evidence to the contrary in the earlier books, it to me created a big contradiction in the character.
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I can see that, all I am saying is that the "evidence" may be something we took on faith as opposed to actual fact.
I am not saying the guy wasn't talented, he clearly was but I believe most of his successes were through misdirection.
If he was a powerful as we had been lead to believe, why even wear the useless metal hood? Shouldn't he have not been worried about being taken over?
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That's exactly my point, the character is all-too-mortal there, where as in every other book he is larger-than-life. Makes no sense.
My position is the "larger than life" aspect of the man is mostly not true.
I understand it read that way but that doesn't mean it is the way it actually was.
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You don't become Satan's representative when the world ends if you're just a competent magician.
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Unless the "satan" in question is as crazy as a shit house mouse
For instance, I am reading a book right now where the main bad guy is going around eating his enemies (pre historic Indian book). The ruler of the bad folks knows he is just a man but allows folks to consider him a monster because it furthers his cause.
Does that make any kind of sense?
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Flagg has allowed others to give him titles that he, himself, doesn't refuse.
So basically we should ignore most of Flagg's achievements and assume that he's no more powerful than a homeless man in his underwear? The guy was powerful enough that A.) God himself intervened to bring him down and B.) He managed to escape said intervention by God. When he was at his peak, he was definitely a force to be reckoned with.
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I'm not sure why it always has to go so far
I never said Flagg was powerless--he was far from that.
Just that he may have had the benefit of a well built reputation in many cases.
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I'm not saying that Flagg hasn't mislead people about his shortcomings, but he's far, far more than a "cut rate magician".
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So we agree to be somewhere in between "cut rate" and "first class"
I'm cool with that.
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I agree with that, just that he allowed others to imagine him even more powerful
Same here. I think Flagg is a human that became a demon, over his long life, and at different times has been more powerful than others. On the other hand he likes having the rep to help keep folk in line too.
"It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.
"When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah
agreed. he was a man at birth, he became something else in time.Same here. I think Flagg is a human that became a demon, over his long life, and at different times has been more powerful than others. On the other hand he likes having the rep to help keep folk in line too.
Yes, exactly.agreed. he was a man at birth, he became something else in time.Same here. I think Flagg is a human that became a demon, over his long life, and at different times has been more powerful than others. On the other hand he likes having the rep to help keep folk in line too.
I don't think Walter really loved Gabrielle.... she was a means to spawn his evil baby...
Like in The Stand
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There's nothing to suggest that he wanted Gabrielle for a baby. If she was means for a greater purpose, it was to spur Roland into fighting Cort. And even at that, I think if Walter was able to love anyone, he'd probably love Gabrielle.I don't think Walter really loved Gabrielle.... she was a means to spawn his evil baby...
Like in The Stand
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