I personally think it is a tad overrated. IT and Under the Dome were to better "community problem" stories
Colorado
Las Vegas
Ingoring dream and trying to survive
Dead (Captain Trips)
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I personally think it is a tad overrated. IT and Under the Dome were to better "community problem" stories
"Come on, lets face it. At what point or another, we all wanted to be a superhero
Dome had environmental overtones that The Stand did not.
All that's left of what we were is what we have become.
I just finished The Stand: The Complete & Uncut Edition 10 hours ago and I must say:
That story was bloody brilliant. I can see where some people would be upset at the length, but I could not disagree more strongly. I knew that Trashy would turn out to be the pivotal character, and I cannot imagine reading a story where he is (mostly) responsible for killing Las Vegas without a full background for him (not to mention the Kid was a fantastic character).
I was really upset at the way Harold turned out. The two characters I could relate most to were Harold and Larry, so you can see where I might be a bit torn. Harold had the opportunity for redemption and turned it down, killing my favorite character ever in the process (Nick Andros). And Larry died as a martyr and a hero in the most honorable way I can imagine.
R.I.P.
Finished The Dark Tower at 6:03AM on December 21, 2009.
The man in black fled across the desert,
and the gunslinger followed.
Those are nice things to say about the story, I couldn't agree more with you!
"May your luck rise, Roland" -Cuthbert Allgood
agreed... my favorite King book by far!
Buddy, you think you look strong? You’re wearing a cape.
I need to ask a question, though: Why do people seem to like Frannie so much? She came across as a spoiled, selfish, stupid, over-emotional bitch to me. I hated Stu at the beginning, but at he at least grew on me. Frannie I just hated flat-out from beginning to end. I think my biggest criticism of the book is that she didn't die.
Finished The Dark Tower at 6:03AM on December 21, 2009.
The man in black fled across the desert,
and the gunslinger followed.
I would LOVE to see a short story with maybe survivors or even someone dying from Captain Tripps in England or maybe Europe somewhere explaining how the rest of the world is dealing. I'm sure they would be a few weeks behind us, and would be cool to see their reaction to it. Night Surf clearly states that more people thought it was natural, as does Frannie when she is talking to Harold. So maybe add in some people over there thinking the US started it. To bad it will never happen.Originally Posted by ICry4Oy
Wonder what the rest of the world was doing during this American apocalypse?
Yet another reason I absolutely hate Frannie; how fucking naive!
Finished The Dark Tower at 6:03AM on December 21, 2009.
The man in black fled across the desert,
and the gunslinger followed.
Wonder what the rest of the world was doing during this American apocalypse?
I wondered about this as I was reading it the first time, but then I realized that it made perfect since that we would know nothing about the rest of the world during a pandemic of this magnitude because all lines of communication and world travel would be swiftly cut off.
It would make since that everyone in continental Europe and probably Australia, Iceland, Greenland etc. were all affected in a similar manner. But it seems likely that some isolated small islands, in the south Pacific for instance, would be completely unaffected, and possibly oblivious to the rest of the world's problem.
Interesting thought.
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I am pretty sure it's stated that the rest of the world was hit just as bad and that in other areas there were similar groups of emigrants.
So.... Who was your least favorite character in the book?
Spoiler:
"May your luck rise, Roland" -Cuthbert Allgood
I'm with you.
All that's left of what we were is what we have become.
I never really cared for Frannie either... and then when I saw Molly Ringwald as her in the TV version... that just made it even more concrete for me.
Buddy, you think you look strong? You’re wearing a cape.
I had always thought that such a character would not survive in a post apocalyptic world.
All that's left of what we were is what we have become.
I'm with you, Jon. The only reason she lived was because Harold and Stu both protected her. She's an ungrateful jerk who didn't deserve the life she got after the flu.
Finished The Dark Tower at 6:03AM on December 21, 2009.
The man in black fled across the desert,
and the gunslinger followed.
haha...loving the hateful comments on frannie. definitely my least favorite character in the stand (maybe even in all of SK's books.) BTW, while reading the dark tower books, i always pictured larry underwood and eddie dean to be kinda the same character.
I read The Dark Tower first, so when I read The Stand I was definitely connecting Larry to Eddie (and not the other way around, as most of you who made the connection probably did).
Finished The Dark Tower at 6:03AM on December 21, 2009.
The man in black fled across the desert,
and the gunslinger followed.
I found this picture while on a photo-comic site I enjoy. I thought you all would get a kick out of it!
Finished The Dark Tower at 6:03AM on December 21, 2009.
The man in black fled across the desert,
and the gunslinger followed.
::puzzled bear::
Frannie has always been one of my favorite characters... but, then again, Susannah is my favoritestest, and people don't seem to think much of her, either...
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
why do you like her, Jean?
Buddy, you think you look strong? You’re wearing a cape.
I think that for a young girl - pregnant girl, at that, and deserted by the cowardly father of her son - who happened to be in an unthinkable situation, she did that stand-and-be-true stunt remarkably well. Then, I usually like people Sai King intended to be liked, with only a few exceptions (Susan and Lisey come to mind first).
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But Jess didn't abandon her, she forced him away! Jess was more than willing to stay and help her. From what I remember, he was going to work full-time while trying to attend school so that he could pay to take care of Frannie and Peter. You're probably right: Sai King probably wanted us to like her, but I couldn't get over her immaturity and selfishness. The thing is, she didn't pull a stand-and-be-true stunt. She stood behind Jess, then pushed him aside and tried to do things on her own, which failed. So then she stood behind Harold, and then pushed him away to stand behind Stu. And I guarantee you that after Stu's gone, she's going to find another man to support her. I don't see anything heroic or redeeming in her; just immature and selfish.
Finished The Dark Tower at 6:03AM on December 21, 2009.
The man in black fled across the desert,
and the gunslinger followed.
I am going to reread the Jess part, soon as can. I had a very different picture in mind
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, I didn't really see Jess as either a no-good "dad" or as the one who wanted to stand by her. I kinda saw him as the same as Frannie... a young person, essentially caught in an unfortunate situation.
Buddy, you think you look strong? You’re wearing a cape.
Syn, I think you're being a little over-generous to Jess there...
Jess wasn't so terrible no, but he wasn't a lot of use either - and Frannie knew he wouldn't be. She simply didn't want to settle for something as dead in the water as Jess, JUST BECAUSE he happened to be the father, she rejected that easy solution and resolved to find a better one (all this BEFORE the flu hit of course).
I've read this book about 20 times or more, and never had a hint of dislike or hatred for Frannie. *shrugs*
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