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    I think he's a great villain. I didn't care too much for his expanded past though, as attributing the reason for the evil of a human villain to supernatural causes just spoils him I guess.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberGhostface View Post
    I think he's a great villain. I didn't care too much for his expanded past though, as attributing the reason for the evil of a human villain to supernatural causes just spoils him I guess.
    I COMPLETELY agree with this. I am not a big fan of the
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    used for some backstories in the comics. It feels cheap to me.

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    It was a bit out of left field, but I'm a sucker for additional canon

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    Psst. Me too.

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    Yes, Jonas was a great character (well done Sai King), but as said by many of you he was indeed evil.
    As to the argument that he could have become a true Gunslinger had he bested Fardo... - I think not. Just look at how easily he was beaten by Roland when it came to killing-time. In the end Jonas was nothing.
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    Eldred Jonas forgot the face of his father and I was glad to see him fall under Roland's guns. I do think he was a well-written adversary for Roland's first ka-tet as I liked the idea of them facing a tet led by a failed gunslinger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean View Post
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    I feel sorry for how the failed 'slingers were sent west. In the end, that was a major problem for Gilead so maybe they could have come up with a different means of dealing with the people who failed.
    It was their major problem, but they could never have come up with any different solution, considering the status of gunslingers in their society. The elite was absolute, semi-god-like; the very attempt to join it had to be non-compromising. You win all, or you lose all, no golden middle here. You join that caste of supermen, or you are cast away.
    Something that I was glad to see being bought up in the comics was the question of the elitism that surrounds gunslingers. The comics implied that people in latter day Gilead had begun to question the wisdom of banishing all failed gunslingers, because these men seemed almost entirely to become enemies of gunslingers/the affiliation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManOfWesternesse View Post
    Yes, Jonas was a great character (well done Sai King), but as said by many of you he was indeed evil.
    In the end Jonas was nothing.
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    Eldred Jonas forgot the face of his father and I was glad to see him fall under Roland's guns. I do think he was a well-written adversary for Roland's first ka-tet as I liked the idea of them facing a tet led by a failed gunslinger.
    I agree completely with these two quotes.
    Jonas was a great character and I loved to see him die at Roland's hand.

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    I did not like him. I'm not high on totally self serving people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    I did not like him. I'm not high on totally self serving people.
    And did you like the character itself?

    Roland would have understood.

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    There's always this problem with "liking" and "disliking" characters. I hated Cordelia and Jonas, but I agree they were very well written, so I rather loved them as characters; alas, opposite examples could be given (that is, when you try your best to like a "good guy/girl", but they are deplorably poorly written.)

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    That's pretty much how I feel Jean. I believe there is a difference between a well written character (which Jonas was) and a flesh and blood person.

    In the second case, I did not like him.
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    Jonas was a superb villian, so no I didn't like him. I'd love to see a darktower movie with Gary Oldman playing his part.

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    Being sent west. Isn't that like a conservative being sent to California?
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    Send this conservative to California!

    It's worth it for the boobs and weed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    Send this conservative to California!

    It's worth it for the boobs and weed.
    I would have never pegged you as "conservative," Matt. I thought I was the only conservative who believed in the weed.

    Legalise it damn it!

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    I liked Jonas a lot. He seemed like an interesting look at what a Gunslinger could devolve into after being abandoned by his people.
    As for the expanded stories in the comics, I got the impression that they were supposed to be myths and tall-tales, rather than hard and true facts. The whole "broken mirror" thing was probably a pretty common trope among storytellers for explaining away how evil people could get power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarajean View Post
    i do like him. i never really thought about that question before. i pity him more, though.

    i can't help but feel that roland and jonas could be interchangable...had roland been sent west, would he be much different than jonas became? if jonas had bested fardo, would he have become the same kind of gunslinger roland did? (am i making any sense?)
    I agree with this post, a billion times over aside from the pittance part. Although I haven't read any more of Jonas than what was written of him in Wizard and Glass, I do feel like he held the potential to be a force of good, rather than wickedness. In the end, the worst blow anyone ever inflicted on him was the exchange with Roland, where the teen says that he is an exile of Gilead. A failed gunslinger.

    The fact is really hurt Jonas says a lot of his character. I like him as a villain.

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