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    Hmm, what do you think of this signature?

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    I don't like it at all.

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    Bad.

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    Thanks, guys, that's what I thought. The crook in the loop kind of gives it away, huh?
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    Hello all,

    A bit of information on this book. This is a First Edition Gunslinger with a near fine dust jacket, clean boards and a tight spine. It is a very good example of this book, with one exception. It was purchased by a friend of mine in Japan, in late 2003, from Tim Miller of Flatsigned.com I was not aware of her decision to purchase this or I would have strongly advised her against it. I am not sure if Tim is a member of this board, but he is scum, and should be in jail. I am only glad that my friend did not live long enough to know that there are unscrupulous sellers out there, or it would have broken her heart. Her collection notes were very detailed, and in the comment line for this item she wrote that the original website picture was different from the current copy. All attempts to return were unanswered.

    I am 100% positive that the signature is fake, as I have examined it closely with a 7x magnifier to spot at least 12 hesitations that Stephen's signature/writing does not contain. You are all welcome to voice your opinions, but that is not why I am showing you this today. As the book has been left to me, there is no way I would include this in my collection, nor would I ever try to sell it as is with the indication that I am not sure about the signature. Everything in my collection is 100% authentic. Tim's reputation all but confirms that he peddles in garbage, and is a bottom dweller.

    That being said, the book is rare and as it is 1 of 10,000, it should have a better fate than at the back of my fireplace. I would like your opinions on what you would do, if the situation was reversed. Would you cover it with a book plate? Cross out the inscription with a marker? Remarque the entire page to erase the offending words? Acetone does not work as it is over 10 years old and was a roller-ball. The ink is permanent. If this was a Revival, or something with a 1,000,000 print run, I wouldn't be having this dilemma. That would be kindling during this cold winter now. The Gunslinger is one of my favorite stories and I love Michael's art. I just can't do that.

    That is what I had to say. Any comments, opinions, or matches would be appreciated.

    Happy New Year everyone.
    Take care.
    Gerald


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    You bring up an interesting question. Actually, the book is made virtually worthless because of the phony signature (and it's not a very good fake, either). As you said, there is no way to erase it--it will always be there. A shame, but it would serve only as a reading copy to me.

    John

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    That is indeed a sad story. I share your reluctance, but in reality there is nothing to be done except, to keep it as a constant reminder to all. God Damn shame!!!
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    Yep, 100% forged. But you knew that.

    I wonder (if you have a weak stomach, don't read this) what if you place a strip of packing tape over inscription and signature, let sit for a few minutes, slowly pull the tape off. Would the signature come off with a thin layer of the paper?

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    I like the remarque idea.

    If you can get Micheal to do it for you.
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    Good Idea. Remarqued by Micheal Whelan and have it auctioned for Haven Foundation.

    What do you think Bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Br!an View Post
    I like the remarque idea.

    If you can get Micheal to do it for you.
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    I actually wrote to Michael already, as I have purchased art from him in the past. I told him I would donate it to a charity auction, but I never heard back from him or Audrey. I hope it's just the holidays, and maybe he will get back to me in the New Year. If he would oblige me, I would be more than happy to donate it.

    PS: Mulleins, tape would not work, nor would 220 grade sand paper, nor a diamond polisher. Roller-ball ink is not raised so there is no 'edge' to erase, sort of speak. It 'bleeds' onto the surface, like a fountain pen. If it was sharpie, or a biro, that would be a different story. I have tried all different attempts to erase the filth.

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    That is a sad thing - I recently saw a 1/1 Salem's Lot on ebay with a fake signature as well. Terrible that they ruin scarce books that way. Perhaps David @ Betts can help - he and Mr. Whelan converse frequently. Who knows if a cover-up remarque would even be possible.

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    I think if there's a creative way to salvage the book, that would be best. As you say, being a Gunslinger, the book shouldn't suffer because of the forgery. If there's a way to effectively mask or hide the writing under a Remarque, perhaps that's the best solution. I'd prefer that over a bookplate.

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    I agree that a remarque is the only way to salvage this. It would be possible to cover it up if you utilize both sides of the pages (like "The Slow Mutants"). I would prefer that Michael did the remarque because he did the illustrations inside. I could ask other King artists would they help out, as I am sure they would, but because they are not associated with this edition, it would not be as meaningful. A book plate is of no use either as you say, because you are only covering something that is obviously underneath. I am going back to L.A. in the new year and I will be speaking with a tattoo artist friend of mine and see if she has any ideas or equipment that could help me.

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    I agree that it would be best if Michael did the Remarque for the reasons stated. Just a matter of getting him on board which may be challenging. I don't know. Keep us posted on new developments.

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    If I hear from Michael, I will let you know. Either way, it won't be destroyed, but it can never be offered for sale as is. I would never have my name associated with a fake. I will figure something out.

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    The only way to salvage this book is to get Stephen King to write below it:

    "The above signature is a fake. This one is real." "Stephen King".

    I bet he would do it at the correct event.

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    Very good idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Rabbit Trick View Post
    The only way to salvage this book is to get Stephen King to write below it:

    "The above signature is a fake. This one is real." "Stephen King".

    I bet he would do it at the correct event.

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    Easiest solution is a King signed bookplate. A professional bookbinder could remove the page. The same page from a damaged Gunslinger could be removed and inserted into your nice copy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neo_trinity View Post
    Hello all,

    A bit of information on this book. This is a First Edition Gunslinger with a near fine dust jacket, clean boards and a tight spine. It is a very good example of this book, with one exception. It was purchased by a friend of mine in Japan, in late 2003, from Tim Miller of Flatsigned.com I was not aware of her decision to purchase this or I would have strongly advised her against it. I am not sure if Tim is a member of this board, but he is scum, and should be in jail. I am only glad that my friend did not live long enough to know that there are unscrupulous sellers out there, or it would have broken her heart. Her collection notes were very detailed, and in the comment line for this item she wrote that the original website picture was different from the current copy. All attempts to return were unanswered.

    I am 100% positive that the signature is fake, as I have examined it closely with a 7x magnifier to spot at least 12 hesitations that Stephen's signature/writing does not contain. You are all welcome to voice your opinions, but that is not why I am showing you this today. As the book has been left to me, there is no way I would include this in my collection, nor would I ever try to sell it as is with the indication that I am not sure about the signature. Everything in my collection is 100% authentic. Tim's reputation all but confirms that he peddles in garbage, and is a bottom dweller.

    That being said, the book is rare and as it is 1 of 10,000, it should have a better fate than at the back of my fireplace. I would like your opinions on what you would do, if the situation was reversed. Would you cover it with a book plate? Cross out the inscription with a marker? Remarque the entire page to erase the offending words? Acetone does not work as it is over 10 years old and was a roller-ball. The ink is permanent. If this was a Revival, or something with a 1,000,000 print run, I wouldn't be having this dilemma. That would be kindling during this cold winter now. The Gunslinger is one of my favorite stories and I love Michael's art. I just can't do that.

    That is what I had to say. Any comments, opinions, or matches would be appreciated.

    Happy New Year everyone.
    Take care.
    Gerald

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    Thank you for all your suggestions. I like the 'real' inscription from Stephen. I am going to write to Marsha in Stephen's office and see if that is something he would be willing to do, if I agree to donate it to charity. Also, the page removal is a good idea if I can find a damaged Gunslinger cheap. I will just look for an eBay listing as "Slightly worn..." That will probably mean beyond hope. If I get my Christmas wish from Santa, maybe Tim Miller can agree to write 'forgerer' in the same shaky handwriting style to make this complete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neo_trinity View Post
    If I get my Christmas wish from Santa, maybe Tim Miller can agree to write 'forgerer' in the same shaky handwriting style to make this complete.
    LOL! He'd charge you for that as well, no doubt!
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    Maybe that is actually King's sig...from the FUTURE! Just write in the date 2054.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyofcrack View Post
    Maybe that is actually King's sig...from the FUTURE! Just write in the date 2054.
    Touché . There are other worlds than these.

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    One of our most watched forgers has returned

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-GIRL-WHO...item1c4beb287f

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