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    Good to know....

    Thanks, guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mulleins View Post
    I think it would be awesome to get the mega collectors together in a room and learn the trade secrets of "How to tell a real King signature from a fake". Pressure points, what makes it fake, etc.
    I think you pretty much figured it out...Look at the s/l's and if it doesn't come very, very close to matching up with one of them, it's probably a fake...if a signature looks like a 1979 style signature in a copy of Buick 8, then it's a fake....If you even have a whisper of a doubt, it's probably a fake - or as good as one, since doubt is as bad as being certain.

    His signature is very consistent within the era it was signed, so the s/l's are the best bet for comparison. As far as pressure points and things like that, you can only see that when you have the signature right up close, which means you probably bought it and it's too late to complain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by e_taylor View Post
    Anyone think it might have to keep a database of BS Ebay Seller IDs to help potential buyers out? Kind of like skfakes used to do before it flipped to a membership only site?
    I think we could.

    Perhaps a list of any UserID from ebay known to have tried to pass a fake?
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    I think SKfakes found that publicly listed people and auctions that were considered a fraud was more trouble than it was worth.
    In addition, he had a panel of experts who gave their professional opinion on the sigs.
    However, if the Directors of this site are willing to put up with the issues that arise, I am sure members would be willing to help point out frauds.

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    As for what the experts on skfakes say about the "signed" Salem's Lot Illustrated, both carlosdetweiller and hutch agree it's a fake.

    John

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    Thanks John. I am no expert, but IMO it was questionable, and that's why it was in the Ebay BS thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Flagg View Post
    Salem's Lot Illustrated
    Not sure on the signature.



    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=018

    The experts have called out renaissance_auctions to:

    Let's Play Ebay BS Game.

    renaissance-auctions come on down

    the experts are thinking YES we have an answer.

    The experts feel your trying to slip a buyer the so your Ebay BS meter is set to 10...-1 (for the neat calligraphy fake signature) BS meter 9.

    Stay tuned for more "Let's Play Ebay BS Game"

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    I'd say real

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    Default it's a shame

    it's a shame someone ruined a perfectly good book with this signature

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Carrie-1st-Editi...QQcmdZViewItem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Flagg View Post
    I think SKfakes found that publicly listed people and auctions that were considered a fraud was more trouble than it was worth.
    In addition, he had a panel of experts who gave their professional opinion on the sigs.
    However, if the Directors of this site are willing to put up with the issues that arise, I am sure members would be willing to help point out frauds.
    Actually I was hoping you would deal with the issues.

    But seriously, I believe it could cause a few problems so maybe we can get together sometime and discuss weather or not its a service this site could effectively provide.
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    I'm FAR from being an expert, but I'd agree. That is just horrible.
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    Thank you Hutch:

    We have a new contestant in Let's Play Ebay BS:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Carrie-1st-Editi...QQcmdZViewItem

    Seller tajandjamaica COME ON DOWN:

    The seller DESTROYED an awesome book. One I'm looking for

    The Ebay BS Meter on this one is beyond 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch View Post
    it's a shame someone ruined a perfectly good book with this signature

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Carrie-1st-Editi...QQcmdZViewItem
    Agreed. I've never seen that "Compliments of Doubleday" indication either. Too bad about the signature.

    John

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    The "signed" Carrie may qualify for the Spinal Tap 11:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Flagg View Post
    I think SKfakes found that publicly listed people and auctions that were considered a fraud was more trouble than it was worth.
    In addition, he had a panel of experts who gave their professional opinion on the sigs.
    However, if the Directors of this site are willing to put up with the issues that arise, I am sure members would be willing to help point out frauds.
    Actually I was hoping you would deal with the issues.

    But seriously, I believe it could cause a few problems so maybe we can get together sometime and discuss weather or not its a service this site could effectively provide.

    Actullay, for now I'm quite content with the "BS" meter. I don't think we need a comprehensive list of sellers or items.
    We just call them as we see them.

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    That sounds great to me.
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    Gee why didn't the guy not try and get so greedy and just sell it as a First Ed Carrie - probably woudl have made off better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mulleins View Post
    Thank you Hutch:

    We have a new contestant in Let's Play Ebay BS:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Carrie-1st-Editi...QQcmdZViewItem

    Seller tajandjamaica COME ON DOWN:

    The seller DESTROYED an awesome book. One I'm looking for

    The Ebay BS Meter on this one is beyond 10.
    We don't know if the current seller is the one that signed the book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mulleins View Post
    Thank you Hutch:

    We have a new contestant in Let's Play Ebay BS:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Carrie-1st-Editi...QQcmdZViewItem

    Seller tajandjamaica COME ON DOWN:

    The seller DESTROYED an awesome book. One I'm looking for

    The Ebay BS Meter on this one is beyond 10.
    We don't know if the current seller is the one that signed the book.
    VERY TRUE Hutch. Very true...

    OK. The seller has placed a DESTROYED copy of an awesome book on Ebay.

    still makes me sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mulleins View Post
    Thank you Hutch:

    We have a new contestant in Let's Play Ebay BS:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Carrie-1st-Editi...QQcmdZViewItem

    Seller tajandjamaica COME ON DOWN:

    The seller DESTROYED an awesome book. One I'm looking for

    The Ebay BS Meter on this one is beyond 10.
    We don't know if the current seller is the one that signed the book. Heck, there is a chance that it was signed by the author and that it's simply not a very good example of his signature.

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    The poor seller is the victim in all this. I blame Steve for not signing the book in a manner in which we could all believe.






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    OK....Check out this auction. This person is trying to fool people AGAIN. Look at the response to my question at the bottom of the Ebay listing:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=280170418212

    Take it or leave it, they say........LEAVE IT.

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    Sig looks phony to me - and all you have to do is read between the linesof the sellers response. Yep I'd LEAVE IT to! :-)
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    Yes, I love the comment.

    You might as well say "technically, there is no way to tell so yes...its a fake"
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    I think it's interesting that some sellers try to obfuscate the issue by having a 2,000 word addendum to the auction description.

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