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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
    The facsimile dustjackets bother me, unless they are marked, "facsimile" somewhere on them.
    The seller states that the rear flaps aren't present. It can't be confused with a real dustjacket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Br!an View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
    The facsimile dustjackets bother me, unless they are marked, "facsimile" somewhere on them.
    The seller states that the rear flaps aren't present. It can't be confused with a real dustjacket.
    In talking with Cemetery Dance about this (the seller created a dust jacket from the limited edition IT) CD said it's the artwork in violation. He doesn't have permission to use it or copy it.

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    I was going to post that too. Really bad!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdwyer19 View Post
    I was going to post that too. Really bad!!
    Wow, this dung apparently sold for best offer. Hope offer was $0.27!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Room 217 Caretaker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Br!an View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
    The facsimile dustjackets bother me, unless they are marked, "facsimile" somewhere on them.
    The seller states that the rear flaps aren't present. It can't be confused with a real dustjacket.
    In talking with Cemetery Dance about this (the seller created a dust jacket from the limited edition IT) CD said it's the artwork in violation. He doesn't have permission to use it or copy it.

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    It's definitely a copyright violation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goheat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bdwyer19 View Post
    I was going to post that too. Really bad!!
    Wow, this dung apparently sold for best offer. Hope offer was $0.27!
    I thought maybe they didn't know, guess not:

    "Be my guest, it will save me the time in embarrassing you. Not forged but thanks for wasting your time, you must have alot of it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcdonaldj View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by goheat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bdwyer19 View Post
    I was going to post that too. Really bad!!
    Wow, this dung apparently sold for best offer. Hope offer was $0.27!
    I thought maybe they didn't know, guess not:

    "Be my guest, it will save me the time in embarrassing you. Not forged but thanks for wasting your time, you must have alot of it."
    Well for one, he does not realize "alot" is not a word.

    Someone did buy the Forged Regulators but then gave him a negative review and said all his King sigs are fake so he cancelled the order and supposedly reported that person to ebay. it says all that in the re-listed text.

    The Regulators SIGNED 2X by Stephen King & Richard Bachman 1ST (1996, Hardcover)

    Does reporting these people as frauds do any good? I mean has ebay ever actually banned someone for selling forgeries?

    I'm going to report him but I'm not sure it will do any good.

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    Not sure if this one has been posted or not but...

    Just after Sunset Signed by Stephen King (2008, Hardcover)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    Not sure if this one has been posted or not but...

    Just after Sunset Signed by Stephen King (2008, Hardcover)
    Don't trust it.

    sk

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    Quote Originally Posted by frik View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    Not sure if this one has been posted or not but...

    Just after Sunset Signed by Stephen King (2008, Hardcover)
    Don't trust it.

    sk
    Crap, and this seller's other 'signed' King books (active and previously listed) are crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goheat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by frik View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    Not sure if this one has been posted or not but...

    Just after Sunset Signed by Stephen King (2008, Hardcover)
    Don't trust it.

    sk
    Crap, and this seller's other 'signed' King books (active and previously listed) are crap.
    Definitely!

    sk

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    This seller (all the signatures are forged) is terrible:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Signed-Steph.../231858199838?

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    He is a piece of shit. Sorry but he has been doing this for awhile.... I really wish these guys would get busted. Kills me....
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    When you ask the seller how the signatures came about, he cuts and paste the same response.

    He knows he is selling forged copies. No one in the industry cares and that includes Kings office.....why? Because the book itself is legit. If we started seeing pirated King books, they would be all over it.

    I'm sure King gets a laugh out of seeing his signature butchered.

    We all feel sorry for the people who purchase a forged book. I purchased a forged copy before learning, and now I'm a better stronger collector because of it. I believe the King forged business has brought many new members here making our DT family grow. So, when you get a chance, thank the forgers...haha.

    Time to fill up my coffee again and stop typing.

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    This is very worrisome to me. Not unexpected but very worrisome. James Spence is one of the more respected autograph authenticating services. To see him/them certify this as authentic is just terrible. I think they made their reputation in sports collectibles but, after seeing this, I wouldn't trust their judgement there either. I am really sorry to see this. We are much better judges of real vs. fake King signatures than they are.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King...MAAOSwe7BW0ILp

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    I had a similar one a few years ago that I bought sight unseen from a collector I knew. When it arrived, it just didn't feel right so I solicited a few opinions and they came back mixed. I continued to have my doubts so I just returned it.
    I fear this particular style of forgery has become so prevalent, that it is starting to be accepted as legitimate even by respected authenticators.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carlosdetweiller View Post
    This is very worrisome to me. Not unexpected but very worrisome. James Spence is one of the more respected autograph authenticating services. To see him/them certify this as authentic is just terrible. I think they made their reputation in sports collectibles but, after seeing this, I wouldn't trust their judgement there either. I am really sorry to see this. We are much better judges of real vs. fake King signatures than they are.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stephen-King...MAAOSwe7BW0ILp
    What's on that book....mold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Room 217 Caretaker View Post
    When you ask the seller how the signatures came about, he cuts and paste the same response.

    He knows he is selling forged copies. No one in the industry cares and that includes Kings office.....why? Because the book itself is legit. If we started seeing pirated King books, they would be all over it.

    I'm sure King gets a laugh out of seeing his signature butchered.

    We all feel sorry for the people who purchase a forged book. I purchased a forged copy before learning, and now I'm a better stronger collector because of it. I believe the King forged business has brought many new members here making our DT family grow. So, when you get a chance, thank the forgers...haha.

    Time to fill up my coffee again and stop typing.

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    First flat-signed I bought was a fake which I only discovered after immersing myself here, on this website. I even believe that the seller thought it was a genuine signature. I kept the book as a reminder of never to be an impatient douche when buying a flat-signed again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peripheral View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Room 217 Caretaker View Post
    When you ask the seller how the signatures came about, he cuts and paste the same response.

    He knows he is selling forged copies. No one in the industry cares and that includes Kings office.....why? Because the book itself is legit. If we started seeing pirated King books, they would be all over it.

    I'm sure King gets a laugh out of seeing his signature butchered.

    We all feel sorry for the people who purchase a forged book. I purchased a forged copy before learning, and now I'm a better stronger collector because of it. I believe the King forged business has brought many new members here making our DT family grow. So, when you get a chance, thank the forgers...haha.

    Time to fill up my coffee again and stop typing.

    Mulleins
    First flat-signed I bought was a fake which I only discovered after immersing myself here, on this website. I even believe that the seller thought it was a genuine signature. I kept the book as a reminder of never to be an impatient douche when buying a flat-signed again.
    The first flatsigned I bought was a forgery too. The members here set me straight and I was able to return it. The seller was actually banned from eBay a while later. (Imagine that!)
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    I bought two fakes earlyish in my collecting - they were a trace job so looked good in the image, and the price was just too good to be true.

    In my "inventory," I've since rolled the price of the books into other books...so the dollar-cost-average reflects the wasted money that way, but I don't have to look at an item in red...haha

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    The first signed King book I ever bid on on ebay I won for like 60 dollars. At first I was thrilled, but then the low price started to kind of gnaw at me and make me nervous. I started doing some research, which led me to this site, educated me a bit, and led me cancel the purchase before it was shipped. Thanks TDT.org!

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    And here's a seller attempting to sell the Dolores Claiborne Gift Edition with facsimile auto as a real autograph

    www.ebay.com/itm/231873250800

    But hey, it comes with a COA!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsweet View Post
    And here's a seller attempting to sell the Dolores Claiborne Gift Edition with facsimile auto as a real autograph

    www.ebay.com/itm/231873250800

    But hey, it comes with a COA!!!!
    What Bob might call a Jackwagon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelig View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jsweet View Post
    And here's a seller attempting to sell the Dolores Claiborne Gift Edition with facsimile auto as a real autograph

    www.ebay.com/itm/231873250800

    But hey, it comes with a COA!!!!
    What Bob might call a Jackwagon.
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