Stephen King Collecting Questions

[Randall Flagg]

Do both books have orange pastedowns?

[Gris]

I'll dbl check in a bit. I have the black board one in the car. I run out in a bit and make sure it has black boards, black cloth and red or orange paste downs.

Anything else I should check while I'm out there?

[Randall Flagg]

I'll dbl check in a bit. I have the black board one in the car. I run out in a bit and make sure it has black boards, black cloth and red or orange paste downs.

Anything else I should check while I'm out there?

Your oil.

[Brice]

[Randall Flagg]

I have two copies myself. both have all the points of a 1st edition, 1st printing. One has the SK in gold on the front board, the other does not.

Perhaps since the books were printed by different printers, and this is one difference.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I'll dbl check in a bit. I have the black board one in the car. I run out in a bit and make sure it has black boards, black cloth and red or orange paste downs.

Anything else I should check while I'm out there?

Your oil.

[Gris]

OK, I lied. It's all black, boards, binding and pastedowns.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Thanks to Eric I now have a 1st state Four Past Midnight with the gold SK on the front cover.

I had a copy that had the price and 1st printing, but the SK was just embossed black same as the boards.

Do the collectors out there think it's worth it to keep both?

What exactly did the Gold vs. Black SK signify?

The first copies issued have gold embossed "S.K." initials on the book's front board (cover). Later printings had black embossing.

[Gris]

Thanks. Weird since the copy page has 1 - 10 on it.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

There's a few books that have differences in them, even though they are first edition/first printings, with full numberlines.

The UK Rose Madder springs to mind. One state has black endpapers and the other has a picture of a rose.

The UK Nightmares and Dreamscapes has the picture of the house opposite page 448 in one state, and page 433 on another state.

[Gris]

I'm keeping both.

Thanks for all the info peoples

[herbertwest]

Few weeks ago, I've recieved from a published, single-sided pages printed of an upcomming book. Some kind of 2nd draft printing... a thick pack of paper lol.
It's not King related, but i was wondering.

Does anyone have anything like this, related to Stephen King?
(I guess it's before the galley bound state, and before the proofs in the timeline).
In the case of King, would it be worths anything?
(i guess that if it's an early book it would, or if someone loves a book would may want something like this).
Being nosy...

[carlosdetweiller]

Thanks to Eric I now have a 1st state Four Past Midnight with the gold SK on the front cover.

I had a copy that had the price and 1st printing, but the SK was just embossed black same as the boards.

Do the collectors out there think it's worth it to keep both?

What exactly did the Gold vs. Black SK signify?

The first copies issued have gold embossed "S.K." initials on the book's front board (cover). Later printings had black embossing.

In my collection I have a review copy with inserted promo material that has non-gold SK letters on the front board.

Also, King inscribed several copies to sales reps. I've got one of those with associated promo material that is also the non-gold variety.

The copy I bought at the bookstore when the book came out has gold SK initials on the front board.

From what is in my collection I would think the non-gold variety is first, but I really don't have any first hand knowledge. Just guessing.

[Randall Flagg]

Thanks to Eric I now have a 1st state Four Past Midnight with the gold SK on the front cover.

I had a copy that had the price and 1st printing, but the SK was just embossed black same as the boards.

Do the collectors out there think it's worth it to keep both?

What exactly did the Gold vs. Black SK signify?

The first copies issued have gold embossed "S.K." initials on the book's front board (cover). Later printings had black embossing.

In my collection I have a review copy with inserted promo material that has non-gold SK letters on the front board.

Also, King inscribed several copies to sales reps. I've got one of those with associated promo material that is also the non-gold variety.

The copy I bought at the bookstore when the book came out has gold SK initials on the front board.

From what is in my collection I would think the non-gold variety is first, but I really don't have any first hand knowledge. Just guessing.

Perhaps I should amend the listing in the Catalog to mention both states, with a note indicating it is still undetermined which-if either, or both, is/are to be considered a true 1st/1st.

[e_taylor]

My understanding was always that both fit the requirements of a 1st/1st, but that the gold embossing came first (from what I've read on sites like Tomas'). But I think its more like the Tommyknockers where both red and gold DJs are 1sts, but some places will list one or the other as the "true" first.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

My understanding was always that both fit the requirements of a 1st/1st, but that the gold embossing came first (from what I've read on sites like Tomas'). But I think its more like the Tommyknockers where both red and gold DJs are 1sts, but some places will list one or the other as the "true" first.

The difference with Tommyknockers is that the 1st/1st difference is in the dust jacket, not the actual book. There are several differences in dust jackets:

'Salems Lot x 3
Pet Semetary
Tommyknockers
Rose Madder
On Writing (UK)
From a Buick 8 (UK)
Lisey's Story (UK)

[Randall Flagg]

In this particular instance, I think we are defining (clarifying) which book(s) will be considered 1st's. Bob had an excellent example providing evidence that the non-embossed was included in promo material, and thus deserves consideration as the true 1st. Other than anecdotal, no evidence has been produced as yet to argue that the embossed was the true 1st.
For now-subject to change; my opinion is both qualify equally. I think there were 1.5 million printed initially, it wouldn't surprise me if half were embossed and half were not.
Excellent fodder for discussion.

[Gris]

Here's what I have...

Quater bound with black cloth.
Black boards.
Orange paste downs.
SK is embossed on the front cover, but black.
Title is embossed on the spine in Gold
Flap price is U.S. $22.95, Canada $29.95.
Number line is 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1.


Need any more pics?

[Randall Flagg]

Fairly comprehensive. So far the front board, not the DJ or CR page is the puzzle.
I am sure we'll work it out.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

For those who want to see both types of embossing:

[jhanic]

Up in the Collections forum, gsvec posted a couple pictures of her edition of Bred Any Good Rooks Lately?. I answered with my copy, which is quite different than hers. I thought the discussion of these differences should be down here.

As I pointed out above, my edition is a trade paperback with a different cover, pagination and page layout. According to Justin Brooks' Primary Bibliography, there was only one edition of this book and his description matches my copy. Gsvec obviously has another edition.

Does anyone have any light to shine on this?

John

[Brice]

I can only tell you I have seen both before. I've seen the one you have online a couple times and the one she has was carried at our local Waldenbooks for awhile.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Up in the Collections forum, gsvec posted a couple pictures of her edition of Bred Any Good Rooks Lately?. I answered with my copy, which is quite different than hers. I thought the discussion of these differences should be down here.

As I pointed out above, my edition is a trade paperback with a different cover, pagination and page layout. According to Justin Brooks' Primary Bibliography, there was only one edition of this book and his description matches my copy. Gsvec obviously has another edition.

Does anyone have any light to shine on this?

John

Gsvec's one is a later printing edition.

[jhanic]

I don't think it would be a second printing, because of the major differences between the two volumes. I think, at best, gsvec's copy is a second edition.

John

[gsvec]

The interesting thing, thought, is there's no mention of a previous printing on the CP - just the 1986 copyright in addition to the 1994 one. Since there's a full number line, I'll go for 2nd edition.