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    What would have happened if Susan had met Cuthbert first and not Roland?

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    I think she still would have dated Roland. Although she was intrigued by Cuthbert, I think she would have soon tired of his sense of humor.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Daghain View Post
    I think she would have soon tired of his sense of humor.

    Roland would have understood.

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    I think I would've slapped her...he's mine!

    I think they may of had a brief fling, but it wouldn't have been love, nothing as intense as the relationship between her and Roland.

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    This may be a lot deeper possibility than you'd think though.
    Certainly she was very immediately, and very strongly, smitten with Cuthbert when she first met him.
    *goes off to booksearch*
    "Then his gaze returned to her and he gave a smile of such sweetness that a confused but brilliant thought (If I'd met this one first-, it began) shot through her mind like a comet."

    Maybe she would have fallen for him just as strongly as she did for Roland? .... and maybe he would have been truer to her in the long run than his Tower-Infected friend was capable of being??
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    I think Manof is on the right track, I personally didn't care for Susan all that much, and believe that she would have gone for Cuthbert had she met him first, or Alain, but in the end, I think it has to do with ka, and she would have ended up with Roland, who was to be the one to finalize her death sentence

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    I am not sure she would have fallen in love with Cuthber if they had met first (but I think it would have been absolutely possible... moreover) but I am totally sure that if Susan and Roland hadn't met on that very night they wouldn't have become lovers.

    I think that night was the night when Susan needed someome so very much that was the night when she was incredibly fragile and lonely and that was the night when she realised what a decision she had made.
    That was the night when she was sad and down enough to open her heart to a stranger.

    Roland would have understood.

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    Nice explaination

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    Maybe she would have fallen for him just as strongly as she did for Roland? .... and maybe he would have been truer to her in the long run than his Tower-Infected friend was capable of being??
    Probably would have been much happier with him. Cuthbert could have cried off.

    I think Susan was very trapped when she met Roland and the other guys and it would have been easy to fall in love with Cuthbert.

    That right there is "ka like the wind" like her old Pa told her about.
    The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket

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    Yeah. I don't think she could have fallen in love with anybody.
    But I do think she might have fallen in love with Cut.

    Roland would have understood.

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    Cool thread idea! I am sure I can PM you with some good IF questions.

    I think Susan was a silly little girl and she caught Roland at an age where he was not quite the true gunslinger he ended up being. Both of them were really young and they believed they found some deep, true love. I've said my views in other threads.
    If she had met Cuthbert first, I think she would have "fallen madly in love" with him instead. I know my answer won't be very popular but that is what I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonteGss View Post
    Cool thread idea! I am sure I can PM you with some good IF questions.

    I think Susan was a silly little girl and she caught Roland at an age where he was not quite the true gunslinger he ended up being. Both of them were really young and they believed they found some deep, true love. I've said my views in other threads.
    If she had met Cuthbert first, I think she would have "fallen madly in love" with him instead. I know my answer won't be very popular but that is what I believe.
    Yeah, I pretty much agreed with what you said, I think it could have been anyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonteGss View Post
    I know my answer won't be very popular but that is what I believe.
    Popularity of opinion doesn't mean shit. Say what you mean and mean what you say, is how I always play it. Good man.
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    CK~you think she would have gone for Los right?

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    When he was younger and not in his spider form..yeah, possibly. Something about glowing, crimson eyes that turns the ladies on.
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    Quote Originally Posted by All_Hail_The_Crimson_King View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MonteGss View Post
    I know my answer won't be very popular but that is what I believe.
    Popularity of opinion doesn't mean shit. Say what you mean and mean what you say, is how I always play it. Good man.
    My opinion is truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All_Hail_The_Crimson_King View Post
    When he was younger and not in his spider form..yeah, possibly. Something about glowing, crimson eyes that turns the ladies on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonteGss View Post

    My opinion is truth.
    Right. As long as it agrees with mine, if not, then it falls under the category of "sad self-deception and foolishness that only deserves to be slapped for expressing"
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    He speaks the truth, I gotten numerous slaps *rubs side of face*

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonteGss View Post
    1. Cool thread idea! I am sure I can PM you with some good IF questions.

    2. I think Susan was a silly little girl and she caught Roland at an age where he was not quite the true gunslinger he ended up being. Both of them were really young and they believed they found some deep, true love. I've said my views in other threads.
    If she had met Cuthbert first, I think she would have "fallen madly in love" with him instead. I know my answer won't be very popular but that is what I believe.
    1. I cannot wait to get them.

    2. There is a lot in what you say and you can see we agree I say it's possible or more than possible that she would have fallen in love with Cuthbert
    BUT
    first of all I don't think she could have fallen in love with anyone. I don't think she would have been able to love a guy without mind and realyl good and nice personality traits.
    She could have been fallen in love with Cuthbert because he was a nice, handsome man who had guts and spine and he was a gentleman when he had to be and he smiled when nobody could. He remembered the face of his father.
    We all agree I think that Cuthbert rocks.
    Secondly I can understand those people who are not fond of Susan. Really. But I have read W&G three times or more and I had to realise again and again how valuable strong and smart she was.
    She could die well.
    And I think it's such a big thing... when she was on fire and her skin was burning she didn't mind anything.. can you imagine it? She was dying and she had incredible pains but she still loved Roland with all her heart and that's what she did feel.
    I don't think it's natural. I think it's unique and respectable.
    I don't think a light teenager love can make people so strong. And I don't think a silly chick can die to save her love and pride.

    Roland would have understood.

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    Again, you have fought your side well, you have my respect, and some of my opinion has change with the points you have stated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
    She could die well.
    And I think it's such a big thing... when she was on fire and her skin was burning she didn't mind anything.. can you imagine it? She was dying and she had incredible pains but she still loved Roland with all her heart and that's what she did feel.
    I'll give you this, she did have a good death and die well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
    I don't think a light teenager love can make people so strong. And I don't think a silly chick can die to save her love and pride.
    Hmmmm...let me think on this more. I'm not sure it was her love that made her so strong.

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    Thanks.
    I myself needed some time to find out why I think in a different why about Susan. It was just a feeling but maybe now I could put it into words.

    Roland would have understood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
    Secondly I can understand those people who are not fond of Susan.
    I cannot.
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonteGss View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
    She could die well.
    And I think it's such a big thing... when she was on fire and her skin was burning she didn't mind anything.. can you imagine it? She was dying and she had incredible pains but she still loved Roland with all her heart and that's what she did feel.
    I'll give you this, she did have a good death and die well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
    I don't think a light teenager love can make people so strong. And I don't think a silly chick can die to save her love and pride.
    Hmmmm...let me think on this more. I'm not sure it was her love that made her so strong.
    Not just the love. Of course that love needed to find the right soul.
    But I let you think.

    Roland would have understood.

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