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    Quote Originally Posted by Lookwhoitis View Post
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    Back in Winterfell, we have Arya and Sansa at each other's throats over a piece of evidence that involves Littlefinger. Littlefinger, who wrote the book on Manipulation. Are you telling me that Arya, who has been presented as one of the sharpest characters of the series, can't see that something is amiss?

    Look, I know Bran is busy sitting in a tower being mopey all day, but he can't take 5 minutes of his busy schedule to divulge critical bits of information to keep them from killing each other?
    I have been having this argument with a friend by text. He thinks Littlefinger is fully in control. I do not think he is. Not only does Arya not see that something is amiss, she is multiple steps ahead of him. Anyone who does not think Arya is manipulating the manipulator is about to get Gamed.

    All you have to do is:
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    Follow the Cats Paw dagger. The dagger is very important. If you notice Arya GIVES the dagger to Sansa after their argument. This shows that she is a step (or three) ahead of Littlefinger. She KNOWS that Littlefinger has planted the scroll to try and engender an impasse between the sisters. Arya is graduating from being a little girl with a Kill List to someone who is actually playing the Great Game and using all of her Faceless Man skills in doing so. My guess is that Arya KNOWS that Littlefinger is false and is ALREADY setting him up to take the cats paw in the belly, which will be delivered by SANSA, after she lures him into her bed with the promise of that forbidden Stark woman poonanney that Littlefinger so covets. Littlefinger is a master manipulator and he will be wary as all get out but when he starts thinking with the little head over the big head, he is destined to fall. Arya KNOWS this and her behavior and actions are just a "part" that she is playing for ALL to see, just like the Mummers that she shadowed in Bravos. But her true motivation (the assassination of Baelish) is being set up and will be carried out in the near future. Arya is on point and anyone who doesn't see that better watch out for the Cats Paw


    and as for Bran
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    He sees the big Picture and knows all. He is also most probably the Night King
    I thought about your post too, and that's the only answer I'll accept. Arya needs to be the one gaming the gamer or this whole thing has been stupid.

    Also, you don't need to Spoilerize your titles dude. It's already in the subject title.
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    And I've read the Bran = Night King theory before, but I just don't see it. Would be a total mindfuck though.
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    Just read this article about The Night King, interesting that he probably knew the whole thing was going to happen....

    This theory about The Night King is more terrifying than anything in Game of Thrones

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    I want to play a Game of Thrones game after this season is over. Everyone that plays puts in $20, winner takes all, second place gets their money back, some goes to the Haven Foundation, etc etc, whatever you guys want. Anyway, premise is this: For the final season, lots of people will die. I will make a list of all the relevant characters, and then everyone will fill out the list by choosing who kills them. And then to break the tie, you also choose who sits on the Throne and/or other positions (Hand, Night's Watch, etc) ... Just spitballing here, but this sounds kind of awesome in my head. Any takers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fernandito View Post
    And don't even get me started on all the teleportation going on. They must have shot that raven up with cocaine to get him to King's Landing so quickly.
    That battle was closer to the wall than you might think. Watch this nearly continuous scene from Bran's vision (which showed the white walkers congregating on the battle spot). Travel on foot through this terrain is long and hard, but when you literally go "as the crow flies" it's much, much quicker!

    "We used to play cards up in the tower
    but now the suits lay scattered"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    Just read this article about The Night King, interesting that he probably knew the whole thing was going to happen....

    This theory about The Night King is more terrifying than anything in Game of Thrones
    The Night King with greensight makes a lot of sense, and makes an already immensely formidable enemy even more terrifying.

    To the article's point, there was an element of inevitability in the way that battle played out. The Night King was not surprised in the least to see Dany swoop in with her dragons. Hell, he even had a spear on-hand nearby.
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    I'm just nodding my head the whole time thinking "ok, stop now, please."

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    Quote Originally Posted by fernandito View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    Just read this article about The Night King, interesting that he probably knew the whole thing was going to happen....

    This theory about The Night King is more terrifying than anything in Game of Thrones
    The Night King with greensight makes a lot of sense, and makes an already immensely formidable enemy even more terrifying.

    To the article's point, there was an element of inevitability in the way that battle played out. The Night King was not surprised in the least to see Dany swoop in with her dragons. Hell, he even had a spear on-hand nearby.
    And miles of chain to recover the downed dragon.


    About the discrepancies in time that seem to be happening, one comment I read suggested that Bran might be manipulating time as well to suit his purposes. Interesting but another stretch.

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    Yeah, that's a stretch. There has been no indication thus far that he's able to manipulate time, only able to observe events.
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    I find it strange that while the Fire God and the Walkers are different, they both give their leaders the ability to bring people back from the dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shannon View Post
    I find it strange that while the Fire God and the Walkers are different, they both give their leaders the ability to bring people back from the dead.
    The Drowned God also offers resurrection and in a round about sort of way so does the God of Many Faces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shannon View Post
    I find it strange that while the Fire God and the Walkers are different, they both give their leaders the ability to bring people back from the dead.
    That's a good observation. I read this article a while back focusing on the relationship between Game of Thrones and the notion of faith/religion, and how each of the Starks (minus Sansa) are now imbued with powers associated with their affiliation

    Jon - Lord of Light - Resurrection
    Bran - Old Gods - Greensight
    Arya - Faceless God - Impersonation


    I wonder what - if any - impact these religions will have during the final stretch beyond the magical properties these and other characters have experienced thus far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fernandito View Post
    Guys. Yesterday's episode annoyed the shit out of me.

    The plan to capture an ice zombie always seemed a little idiotic to me, but last night cemented it. The writers needed an excuse for Viserion to show up North of the Wall and get turned by the Night King, unfortunately this meant Jon & Co. had to make bonehead decision after bonehead decision to get there. And that shot of the 5 of them fending off literally HUNDREDS of Wights without casualties just took me out of the scene completely.

    Back in Winterfell, we have Arya and Sansa at each other's throats over a piece of evidence that involves Littlefinger. Littlefinger, who wrote the book on Manipulation. Are you telling me that Arya, who has been presented as one of the sharpest characters of the series, can't see that something is amiss?

    Look, I know Bran is busy sitting in a tower being mopey all day, but he can't take 5 minutes of his busy schedule to divulge critical bits of information to keep them from killing each other?

    And don't even get me started on all the teleportation going on. They must have shot that raven up with cocaine to get him to King's Landing so quickly.

    This season has been extremely sloppy. I'm having trouble enjoying the Wow moments because the route we've taken to get there has been.. yikes.
    I can see where you're coming from with these. Honestly, I'm going to sound like a hypocrite because I kill The Walking Dead for doing some of this shit. I'm not sure why, but it hasn't bothered me in the least on GoT.

    I know you are specifically referring to the point when it was just the 5 of them, but they did lose a few no names before that and Thoros. Those 5 aren't your normal warriors and they aren't exactly fighting skilled foes. It's just so badass it doesn't bother me.

    At the end of the day, a lot of these issues are a byproduct of convenience. It's just impossible to get to the points they want to in 7 episodes. If this were the books, it would take up dozens of chapters. I certainly can see why it's annoying though.

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