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    Quote Originally Posted by OY V(ann)AY View Post
    Hello! I am brand new to the forum, and am reading through the series for the first time. I'm 300 pages into Book 7, so I'm almost there.

    I just had a quick question. I'm trying to figure out the first time we hear about The Crimson King. I know there's an allusion to him during Roland and Walter's palaver in the revised version of The Gunslinger. But was he mentioned at all before Wizard and Glass in either book 2 or 3? Maybe this isn't an important question but I'd like to know.

    Thanks!
    I think the first mention in the revised edition is from Sylvia Pittston:

    “It’s him that will come as the Antichrist, a crimson king with bloody eyes, to lead men into the flaming bowels of perdition, to the bloody end of wickedness, as Star Wormword hangs blazing in the sky, as gall gnaws at the vitals of the children, as women’s wombs give forth monstrosities, as the works of men’s hands turn to blood—”


    The first mention other than the revised was in W&G:


    "At that moment the revving sound of an engine tore into the air. From beyond the fence, on the Forty-sixth Street side of the lot, chugs of dirty brown exhaust ascended like bad-news smoke signals. Suddenly the boards on that side burst open, and a huge red bulldozer lunged through. Even the blade was red, although the words slashed across its scoop—ALL HAIL THE CRIMSON KING—were written in a yellow as bright as panic. Sitting in the peak-seat, his rotting face leering at them from above the controls, was the man who had kidnapped Jake from the bridge over the River Send—their old pal Gasher. On the front of his cocked-back hardhat, the words LAMERK FOUNDRY stood out in black. Above them, a single staring eye had been painted."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Br!an View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OY V(ann)AY View Post
    Hello! I am brand new to the forum, and am reading through the series for the first time. I'm 300 pages into Book 7, so I'm almost there.

    I just had a quick question. I'm trying to figure out the first time we hear about The Crimson King. I know there's an allusion to him during Roland and Walter's palaver in the revised version of The Gunslinger. But was he mentioned at all before Wizard and Glass in either book 2 or 3? Maybe this isn't an important question but I'd like to know.

    Thanks!
    I think the first mention in the revised edition is from Sylvia Pittston:

    “It’s him that will come as the Antichrist, a crimson king with bloody eyes, to lead men into the flaming bowels of perdition, to the bloody end of wickedness, as Star Wormword hangs blazing in the sky, as gall gnaws at the vitals of the children, as women’s wombs give forth monstrosities, as the works of men’s hands turn to blood—”


    The first mention other than the revised was in W&G:


    "At that moment the revving sound of an engine tore into the air. From beyond the fence, on the Forty-sixth Street side of the lot, chugs of dirty brown exhaust ascended like bad-news smoke signals. Suddenly the boards on that side burst open, and a huge red bulldozer lunged through. Even the blade was red, although the words slashed across its scoop—ALL HAIL THE CRIMSON KING—were written in a yellow as bright as panic. Sitting in the peak-seat, his rotting face leering at them from above the controls, was the man who had kidnapped Jake from the bridge over the River Send—their old pal Gasher. On the front of his cocked-back hardhat, the words LAMERK FOUNDRY stood out in black. Above them, a single staring eye had been painted."
    The first time he was EVER mentioned was in Insomnia.

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    So, I'm watching "IT" again an something occurred to me that I have been thinking about for a long time. One of the things that first drew me to King 30 yrws ago was that his "horror" was based partially on psychic powers Psy). So, now having read all his works to date I'm wondering what the general opinion of you folks would be to the question "Do you think that most King villains employ psychic powers or the more traditional magic/supernatural (MS) powers". Seems to me that you could make a compelling case for "psychic powers" for at least the Dark Tower series and all of its related novels/short stories.

    So, what do you folks think on the matter? "Psy or MS"? Feel free to explain your thoughts in detail.

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    Psy.


    I base that on my personal first contact with King's works which was either The Stand or the first The Gunslinger. I cannot remember which was my first.
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    Okay, seeing as we have a virtual Federal Reserve bank of King fan/collectors here I thought I would pose a question that has long been on my mind regarding TDT series. In all his speaking engagements/Q&A/appearances has anyone ever heard an answer or rationale for the following two part question?

    What were his reasoning for including Ted Brautigan and Dinky Earnshaw in the series? Why did he not include some of his obvious candidates such as, Charlie Mcgee (Firestarter), Danny Torrance (The Shining), Tyler Marshall (?) (Black House) or Jack Sawyer (Talisman)?

    The question has always kind of nagged at me and I wondered if it was ever posed at one of his appearances in the past. I mean Tyler and Jack seemed like no-brainers though I could maybe understand that, Sawyer had a another story trail to follow and was a character belonging to King and Straub. Tyler, who I believe was referred to as perhaps the most powerful breaker in history, would seem to be a free agent of sorts even though he is a character from the King/Straub novels. I could understand, Danny as well given that he had a distinct story line in mind as evidenced by "Dr. Sleep". Charlie though was/is a powerful potential breaker that had no strings story wise in my mind.

    IDK maybe its a moot point but it always bothered me and comes to mind again during a re-read so, I was hoping that among out treasure trove of King fans here someone once heard anything that King may have said that speaks to this question. Your help would be greatly appreciated here. Thank you, folks in advance for any insights you may be able to share!!!!

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