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    I heard that Dan shared some controverial comments on Greta the other day, but couldnt find what he said?
    Here it is. It's interesting to follow Simmons - he regularly presents himself as quite an authority (beyond just opinion) on various subjects in which he has no qualification, especially climate change. He often prefaces his proclamations with how much he's read on X subject and how he has some relationship with a person (i.e., expert) on the subject.

    I took photos of his post before I commented on his post and predicted what he ended up doing - blocking me (in his own cancel culture move, I suppose?)
    I don’t think qualifications are necessary to speak intelligently on a subject but it can help/hurt your argument. Does Greta have any qualifications? What makes her an expert on climate change? If you’re going to use that as an argument against someone the person you’re supporting better have qualifications. (I’m honestly asking about Greta because I haven’t been following any of this.)
    Not to open a can of worms here, but I was careful to use the phrase, “presents himself as an authority (beyond just opinion)” in my original post. And I didn’t mention that I was supporting Greta in that post, either. I agree, anyone can have an opinion, and even an intelligent one, including both Simmons and Greta. However, qualifications/experience matter with whom I’m going to give more credence on any subject (on the case of climate change - neither of them). My accountant may have a strong and even intelligent opinion on how to treat cancer, but I’m only letting the oncologist direct my treatment (just an example, I thankfully don’t have cancer). But I’ll leave the taxes to the accountant. As for Greta, she also speaks about something which she is not qualified, but the difference to Simmons is in some of the very first words in her speech: “I don't want you to listen to me. I want you to listen to the scientists.” It was a clever move by her (or her parents, or whoever). (Reflecting HBJ's sentiment in the earlier post).

    So, of course, anyone can have their opinions - they just better not expect me to think they’re opinion is more intelligent over someone who’s formally dedicated their life to a subject (not Greta, or Simmons, but a climatologist - in this case). If Dan wants to talk about how to write / publish historical horror fiction, then I’m all ears.

    I’m reminded of a debate that was on Australian television years ago between Richard Dawkins and Archbishop George Pell (Australian bishop only months ago convicted of molesting children and now jailed). Pell was talking authoritatively about human evolution, getting all manner of things wrong. Dawkins, in his own rather caustic way, interjects several times. Bishop Pell says something like, “what would you know on the subject?” To which Dawkins replies, “Well, it’s my life’s work!” Here both men have opinions, but they’re not equal on the subject. BTW, this is not meant be an analogy between Dan and Greta but rather qualification / specialisation versus opinion - Dan/Greta vs climatologist consensus).
    Sorry, didn’t mean to imply you were supporting either party. I was speaking in generalities.

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    No, not at all Joe315... I went on a bit in my response. I do take your point, though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by peripheral View Post
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    I heard that Dan shared some controverial comments on Greta the other day, but couldnt find what he said?
    Here it is. It's interesting to follow Simmons - he regularly presents himself as quite an authority (beyond just opinion) on various subjects in which he has no qualification, especially climate change. He often prefaces his proclamations with how much he's read on X subject and how he has some relationship with a person (i.e., expert) on the subject.

    I took photos of his post before I commented on his post and predicted what he ended up doing - blocking me (in his own cancel culture move, I suppose?)


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    Hey Dan Fans. Far from an expert so can I get help on what y'all think the true value for the deluxe (200 copies) Summer Sketches and Hallow Man Limited Editions (Lord John Press) are?

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    This is the edition limited to 200 as opposed to the 500 one. Pretty typical "dust prints" on slip. Book in fine condition.
    $75 shipped in the U.S. if interested.



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    Thanks to HBJ I have a new Dan book. Exciting!

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    Cool stuff.

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    I'm glad Fifth Heart got there safely. Enjoy.

    And that Ilium/Olympos matching set is *very* nice. Better condition than mine. You did well. Congrats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunchback Jack View Post
    I'm glad Fifth Heart got there safely. Enjoy.

    And that Ilium/Olympos matching set is *very* nice. Better condition than mine. You did well. Congrats!

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    Thanks, Hunch! It is so nice to collect an author that does not cost so damn much! Thanks for the help.

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    Anyone looking for a copy of S/L Summer Of Night?

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    New stuff. Yay! Thought you guys would enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingfan2323 View Post
    New stuff. Yay! Thought you guys would enjoy.

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    I absolutely loved Muse of Fire!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Verdansky View Post
    Never heard of Dan Simmons.
    He seems to have the same unhinged fingers as DJT.
    Are you being serious? Never heard of him?
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    What do you guys think the top 3 Dan books are? Curious what you all think.

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    New stuff. Yay! Thought you guys would enjoy.

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    I absolutely loved Muse of Fire!
    Good stuff. Beautifully done book too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingfan2323 View Post
    What do you guys think the top 3 Dan books are? Curious what you all think.

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    Oof, that’s tough given how many genres he writes in. But I would say my personal favourites are Hyperion, Drood, and The Terror. But that leaves out many fine books like Ilium, Crook Factory, Summer of Night and Carrion Comfort.
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    My favorites would be SUMMER OF NIGHT, THE TERROR, and CARRION COMFORT. That said, I don’t think his Joe Kurtz novels get enough love...they’re great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Verdansky View Post
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    Never heard of Dan Simmons.
    He seems to have the same unhinged fingers as DJT.
    Are you being serious? Never heard of him?
    I've never heard of him.
    These things happen. It's weird to me but I'm sure there's someone discovering a new to them author right now.

    I was shocked when people started reading The Haunting of Hill House because of Suntup Press. I couldn't help thinking Where the hell have you been all these years? Ditto The Road. We're talking about genre classics here with movie adaptations. That actually reminded me of when I was younger and just getting into music. I'd check out thank you lists on records and look up more bands on certain labels. It's never too late to discover a good book.

    Favourite Simmons:

    1. Hyperion (all four)
    2. Terror
    3. Summer of Night

    The Crook Factory is very, very close to SoN. I also enjoyed The Fifth Heart and Black Hills although it's a retroactive sort of enjoyment; I like them more now than when I was reading them. I also liked Flashback a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RC65 View Post
    My favorites would be SUMMER OF NIGHT, THE TERROR, and CARRION COMFORT. That said, I don’t think his Joe Kurtz novels get enough love...they’re great.
    I like the Joe Kurtz novels okay, but I much prefer the Parker novels (of which they are obvious homages to), so I cant put them near the top of my list.
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    The three best (sort of):

    1 - Hyperion Cantos - all four books - rivals Frank Herbert's Dune series
    2 - Carrion Comfort - epic in every way
    3 - The Joe Kurtz series - kicks Robert Parker's @$$

    Can't believe I have to leave off Summer of Night and The Terror.
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    The Parker novels I was referring to were those by Richard Stark.
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    Can't believe no love for the first: Song of Kali. That might be my favorite. Never read a deeper sense of place. Darkly, hypnotically, a perfectly tight novel. I love the horror novels, so Summer of Night and Carrion Comfort, with The Terror needing to be in there as well. The Terror is a bit too long and... precise to be as enjoyable as the others, but patience is rewarded, ultimately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunchback Jack View Post
    The Parker novels I was referring to were those by Richard Stark.
    Ahh...I'm not familiar with him.
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    Some great and helpful suggestions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Verdansky View Post
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    Never heard of Dan Simmons.
    He seems to have the same unhinged fingers as DJT.
    Are you being serious? Never heard of him?
    I've never heard of him.



    Then please do us all a favor and stay out of this thread. You get one polite request from me.

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