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    Quote Originally Posted by jhanic View Post
    Don't believe that there is any factual basis for Stone's movie. It's complete fiction.
    Wasn't Jim Garrison's book "On The Trail of the Assassins" the inspiration for the movie?

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    I think this could be like a serious Back to the Future

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloysterpete View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pablo View Post
    Other than Wikipedia, what would you folks recommend to read up on the JFK assassination? I'll watch the Oliver Stone film (seen parts of it a while ago), but would like a nice factual narrative to get ready for the novel.
    Good idea, Its not my history so I don't know the specifics, apart from there seems to be a thousand and one conspiracy theories going around about the assassination.

    Stone's movie was based on Crossfire by Jim Mars along with JFK: The CIA, Vietnam and the Plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy by L. Fletcher Prouty. I'm not sure what I believe, but I basically read everything I can get my hands on regarding the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELazansky View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jhanic View Post
    Don't believe that there is any factual basis for Stone's movie. It's complete fiction.
    Wasn't Jim Garrison's book "On The Trail of the Assassins" the inspiration for the movie?
    Yes, partly...the problem is Garrison was kind of nuts, too. He's actually in the movie.

    There's factual basis for some of it...but it was a real stretch; huge chunks were total fantasy - Garrison didn't even give the pivoltal closing arguments in the movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Mears View Post
    960 pages...this will be epic!
    It sounds very cool... I can't wait!

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    I'm hoping the JFK plot is just to serve as a reminder that we can't change the past, rather than the whole novel revolving around a character trying to prevent the assassination. I think that the latter might bore me just a little.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Mears View Post
    I'll bet Bob has the ARC already!
    I don't have one yet but I really want to read it to find out if there was indeed a second shooter over by the grassy knoll. I've always wondered about that. Guess I'll have to wait a while longer.

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    Who is JFK?

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    He's the ambassador to the United Nations in the alternate Fringe universe.

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    curious that the main character is named Jake - perhaps he is a gunslinging twinner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Rabbit Trick View Post
    Who is JFK?
    He was President John Fitzgerald Kennedy. He was assassinated on 11/22/63.

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    Just throwing this out there: what if the character that is trying to prevent the assassination--by intervening--is actually the cause of it? Hmm...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bev Vincent View Post
    He's the ambassador to the United Nations in the alternate Fringe universe.
    LOL....... love that show. Can't wait for the book either.

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    Ican see the future.....................The future has some serious thread merging in it!!!!!


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    I was born that year-----2/27/63............I was 9 months & 5 days old at the time of the assassination.......
    I look forward to reading this, I'm sure it will be an epic novel with many interesting charcters as with Under the Dome.
    What will King do with the ending? can't wait to finnd out.
    Anyone with contacts or access to an ARC please pm me....

    Thanks Brian....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhanic View Post
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    I remember that day very well. I was in college at the time, and had just walked my girl friend (now my wife) to her class. I was in a bookstore just across the street from the building where she was and they had a radio playing in the background. I finally realized just what they were saying on the radio, almost in a complete state of shock. As soon as she got out of class (she had to take a quiz--this was after she heard what was going on just before taking the quiz!) we walked to one of the dorms where they had a television playing. I've never heard a crowd of college students be that quiet!

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    Even as a 34 year old who lives in a different country, I am very excited about this book. I probably know more about US political history than I do about my own country, and so am keen to read King's alternative vrsion. As always, for an epic, there will be great characters that intertwine in so many ways.

    Can't wait!!!

    Maybe this could be the book for Grant to do next... (just re-lighting the "We want a new grant publication" dream lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo View Post
    Other than Wikipedia, what would you folks recommend to read up on the JFK assassination? I'll watch the Oliver Stone film (seen parts of it a while ago), but would like a nice factual narrative to get ready for the novel.
    First you'll have to have yourself hypnotized to remove all knowledge of the Oliver Stone film because, although entertaining, it is complete hooey.

    I also remember that day. I remember being in class (elementary school) and the principal came in and pulled the teacher out into the hall. She soon came back in the class and told everyone to gather up their stuff because school was letting out. No other explanation, just "go home". By the time we got out of the building the high school kids had already spread the word about what happened around the campus (it was a grades 1 thru 12 school).

    Keep in mind that this was a school in a small Mississippi town.

    Most of the kids were celebrating! I heard things like "YEAH! They got that n-word lover in Dallas!!!" Some of the kids were probably just happy because we were getting the day off but most of them were actually thrilled that JFK was shot.

    Later that evening my parents dragged us all over to a nearby person's house for a party. An actual party.

    I was only a kid but that day was burned in my mind and I always like to think of it as the day I became self-aware. I was too young to completely grasp the situation but I knew that a man was killed and that these backward-ass people were happy about it because in their minds he was a threat to their "whiteness". Looking back on it, it almost seems like I was plunked down into a horrifying episode of The Twilight Zone.


    But Pablo, if you really want to know more about JFK and those times, I'd recommend talking to some older folken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICry4Oy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pablo View Post
    Other than Wikipedia, what would you folks recommend to read up on the JFK assassination? I'll watch the Oliver Stone film (seen parts of it a while ago), but would like a nice factual narrative to get ready for the novel.
    First you'll have to have yourself hypnotized to remove all knowledge of the Oliver Stone film because, although entertaining, it is complete hooey.
    Even more hooey, is the latest doctored film showing the limo driver shooting JFK with a pistol.

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    Sounds like a book Ron Mclarty would narrate, hopefully it will not be sir Raul.

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    There was a door marked Dallas 1963 in the DT series, right?

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    Yes, in Book 7, Susannah sees doors labeled: Shanghai, Bombay and Dallas (November 1963)

    And then there's this passage: "Ted and his friends were pretty amazed by the rotunda where all the doors are, especially the one going to Dallas in 1963, where President Kennedy was killed. We found another door two levels down—this is where most of the passages are—that goes to Ford's Theater, where President Lincoln was assassinated in 1865. There's even a poster for the play he was watching when Booth shot him. Our American Cousin, it was called. What kind of people would want to go and watch things like that?"

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    And elsewhere (I'm not exactly sure where) King makes at least one reference to Kennedy as the last American Gunslinger...

    I have a feeling this book will be laced with DT connections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreattim View Post

    I have a feeling this book will be laced with DT connections.
    Portals. Nuff said.

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