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    Quote Originally Posted by fernandito View Post
    You guys are good, don't trip. I like seeing activity in this thread.
    Thanks, Fern. :-)

    And just a FYI for anyone who might be interested, Bioshock Infinite is currently on sale on Steam for less than $10. ;-)

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    But as to your point, what's so great about this game is that it allows you all these possibilities and takes so much of what you do and who you are into account. Kinda like real life. Lots of games give you choices but I haven't come across one where it's been implemented so seamlessly and to such a degree. Like with Redcliffe Village. You can just say fuck it and leave pretty much everyone to their doom or try to encourage the knights and everyone that victory is possible and save as many people as you can during the ensuing battle (I wasn't able to save everyone, so the mayor and a few knights were killed).

    The approval system is another genius idea, and because your various companions all have different morals, even if they're all basically "good" people (and things), that makes each decision and interaction that much more gray as opposed to black and white.
    I'm not super huge into the gifts part of Origins approval system but I love how each interaction in camp gives you approval or disapproval ratings, depending on how you deal with a situation. I asked Morrigan why she was still there, and even though I told her I wanted her to stay, I got a big ole' negative reaction to that one. And Sten....my goodness, every time I stop to save anyone not vital to a quest, he disapproves! Then you have Shale over here who suggests I should use the Rite of Annulment on the Tower because that would mean I would be the only mage left alive from that particular circle, and think about how great that would be for ME! lol...I love how they each have their own personality and their own beliefs. And I love how, given your interactions with them, they may change to see your point of view or you can mature them through some tough love.

    It's great that the game evolves with you and that only lends to more replayability. I could turn around in a week and replay the game as an evil or insane person, and the experience would be vastly different than this one. It's fantastic.
    Yeah the gifts could inflate the approval pretty quickly, and they have the Feastday DLC gifts that give a character +50 approval which is nuts: http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Feas...fts_and_Pranks

    But some of these gifts are part of quests or have special scenes associated with them. Like giving Leliana the rare flower her mother liked or giving Alistair his mother's amulet.

    The interactions and conversations are what's so cool about this game, and pretty unique actually even for an RPG. I was honestly astonished when I spent about 30-40 minutes just speaking with Alistair and Morrigan outside Flemeth's hut after Ostagar about all sorts of stuff.

    But I don't know if I could do a whole playthough playing all bitchy and evil. Sometimes I'm tempted to go for a smart-ass remark but then I'm like nooo, I wouldn't do that

    So Andi, where are you now in the story? Sounds like you did both Redcliffe and Circle Tower, right? And you got Shale, so you did that DLC. Did you do the other in-games ones yet? I myself just started Denerim and am doing all the cool side-quests here. I have oodles of things to do from the various boards and collectives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo View Post
    Yeah the gifts could inflate the approval pretty quickly, and they have the Feastday DLC gifts that give a character +50 approval which is nuts: http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Feas...fts_and_Pranks

    But some of these gifts are part of quests or have special scenes associated with them. Like giving Leliana the rare flower her mother liked or giving Alistair his mother's amulet.

    The interactions and conversations are what's so cool about this game, and pretty unique actually even for an RPG. I was honestly astonished when I spent about 30-40 minutes just speaking with Alistair and Morrigan outside Flemeth's hut after Ostagar about all sorts of stuff.

    But I don't know if I could do a whole playthough playing all bitchy and evil. Sometimes I'm tempted to go for a smart-ass remark but then I'm like nooo, I wouldn't do that

    So Andi, where are you now in the story? Sounds like you did both Redcliffe and Circle Tower, right? And you got Shale, so you did that DLC. Did you do the other in-games ones yet? I myself just started Denerim and am doing all the cool side-quests here. I have oodles of things to do from the various boards and collectives.
    Any gifts directly tied to a character's story line are awesome. I love cut scenes and would do anything for more cut scenes!!!

    I recently did a Mass Effect Shepard Ruthless (you can actually choose to have your Commander Shepard come from a background where she has done some crazy shit to accomplish a goal) Renegade playthrough where I did all the stuff I couldn't bring myself to do prior to that, plus all the renegade QTEs and it actually gets easier as you go along just to be generally bitchy, but the big decisions are still hard to make. I have been known to sit at a decision making moment in a conversation and battle with myself to make the one that best suits my character. But, I do it, for the replay value and to experience a different take on a story, and sometimes the outcomes can be super crazy different and leave you feeling like you didn't even play the same game. Which I *love*. Even if I have to be bad to do it.

    Right now I'm headed back to Redcliffe to finish with Isolde and Conner. I considered just sacrificing Isolde (I saved them both before) but I'm a very anti blood magic Warden, so I had to ask the Circle for help instead.

    So far I have completed the Tower, Redcliffe, Shale's DLC, I returned to Ostagar, and I went to Soldier's Peak, because the Wardens and their history fascinate me, and for some stupid reason I never did it in my first play through. After Redcliffe, I think I'm going to conscript the Dwarves.

    EDIT: I also did the Golems of Amgwhatevertheheckitscalled DLC.

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    Some decisions can be very tough. I think the hardest time in a game I had was with Life Is Strange. Some of those Big Choice moments when the game pauses and the screen gets all wobbly, I sat there for several minutes thinking it through.

    The Dwarves I'm leaving for last, since I understand it's the toughest and you need to be at your best. I'm level 12 now.

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    And just as I'm talking about making decisions that are best for my character... Somehow I did or said something to Alistair that has prompted the romance to begin. And I'm too softhearted to break it off. /sigh

    WELL THAT'S JUST GONNA SCREW EVERYTHING UP!

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    Gah! I screwed something up with him too, because I wanted to have two saves pre-romance and post-romance, since I knew I was going for my sweet sweet bard anyway, but I was curious to see how it might play out with him, and when I said I was interested in someone else, that just shut him off in either save. Maybe I did something wrong or saved at the wrong time, but it was weird.

    Oh and as far as Isolde and Connor, I am very thorough normally, I pretty much have my finger on the Tab key at all times to highlight every interactable thing, and somehow I still missed that Valena chick or what's her name. She was apparently hiding somewhere in the castle, Owen the blacksmith's daughter, and I promised him I would find her. And I never did

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    Okay, so I went back and reloaded because I promised myself no Alistair this time...but I should have done that after the whole rose thing. Or maybe even before? Because now when I told him I don't think I'd ever care for him 'that way' I got a big ole' -20 approval.

    JEEBUS! Someone doesn't like rejection!

    And oh shit, I'm glad you mentioned the Blacksmith's daughter....I haven't come across her either yet. hmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andi View Post
    Okay, so I went back and reloaded because I promised myself no Alistair this time...but I should have done that after the whole rose thing. Or maybe even before? Because now when I told him I don't think I'd ever care for him 'that way' I got a big ole' -20 approval.

    JEEBUS! Someone doesn't like rejection!
    Ouch! Drama queen.

    So who do you have your eye on?

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    Well, so much for running off to Orzamarr....I ended up getting side tracked with personal quests and doing the Mage Collective and Irregular quests, and now I'm in Denerim dealing with the Chantry board there. Perhaps I'll deal with the Dwarves tomorrow. lol

    Zevran, because I didn't romance that smarmy bastard the first time through. Although I'm kind of wishing I had rolled a male warden character and romanced Morrigan.

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    It would be fun to romance Morrigan, she's so cute, but I prefer to play as a female if given the chance, and she doesn't go that way... Though given how vastly different things can play out and with so many choices, I think I'll do that for one of my future playthroughs, too. And I'll be getting back to Denerim now myself, didn't mean to derail this conversation like it's a dating sim or something. This is a very well-crafted narrative with such lifelike and interesting characters, you can't help but get emotionally attached.

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    No problem, pablo! The ability to romance characters in Bioware games make them as popular as they are and the companions are what make the stories so enthralling. Sure, the lore behind Dragon Age is vast and fascinating (it actually has it's own D20 pen and paper rule book with TONS of information about Thedas and the different peoples in it), but it's the characters which always drive the story, and you seek to learn more and more about them and where they fit into the big picture. And the fact that everything and everyone is so intertwined makes it addicting. Soon you start seeing connections everywhere. It's fabulous.

    Mass Effect is very much the same way. Ask me about my love for Garrus Vakarian some time if you wanna see an unhealthy obsession with a video game character. lol Plus, just between you and me, my guilty pleasure is Bioware fan fiction. I read as much of that stuff as I read of real books anymore, because I like seeing other people's takes on my favorite characters.

    And sure, people can give me a hard time about that, but it's no different than our mutual obsessions with Roland and his Ka-tet. :-)

    EDIT: On the subject of character gender, I'm the same way in that I almost always prefer to play as a female if and when possible, at least in a RPG. And they are almost always brunettes who wear their hair back with brown eyes. And I play them as the diplomatic optimist. I just like to feel connected to my character so they are almost always a self insert, at least the first time around.

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    I have to get in on Mass Effect soon, maybe once I'm through DAO. And yeah I agree about the "self insert" thing, that's the great thing about video games is they're so immersive and interactive, you really feel connected to the character you are in the game and the world, and what they're going through. If done well, of course. And if a game gives you these customization options for your avatar (for you, essentially), it's so gratifying. And fun! This is why I prefer to play RPGs. And the more I play it the more I'm convinced DAO is one of the best ever.

    P.S.: You'll have to link me to some of this fanfic

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    Mass Effect is absolutely worth playing and I highly recommend it. Its just like Dragon Age, only in space, with guns and aliens. The one big difference between the series is that in Mass Effect, you are Commander Shepard from start to finish, whereas in Dragon Age, you are a new protagonist in every game. And Bioware manages to pull off both without a hitch...I don't pine after the Warden in Dragon Age II, the new main character is super easy to fall in love with, but there is something to be said about playing the same character (Shepard) over the course of three games. Talk about an emotional attachment. PHEW!

    I will give you this bit of advice though...if you find yourself absolutely enthralled in the Dragon Age story after you've played through Origins, I'd stick with Dragon Age for now. The story is so big and the actions you take have so many ripples throughout the environment that I think it gives you the best experience to play them all back to back to back, at least in terms of immersion and emotional poignancy. Plus, in terms of the near future, Bioware has released some press on the 4th Dragon Age game (albeit vague at best) so we have that to look forward to over the horizon, at least in the next two or three year (I hope).

    As far as Mass Effect goes, after the Mass Effect Andromeda snafu, it's basically a dead-in-the-water series. They have said they'd like to go back to it eventually, but I don't see that happening for a very long while. Andromeda made them money but it was failure in terms of how poorly it was received by fans and critics alike.

    And I'd be happy to link you some fanfiction! It's *full* of spoilers though. Perhaps after you complete Origins???

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    Mass Effect has one of the best extended universes in all of science fiction, not just video games. Bioware put in an insane amount of time and dedication into building and fleshing out their lore. Fantastic integration of artistic vision, RPG elements, and large scale battles.

    Platinum'ing Mass Effect 3 almost broke me mentally. That final battle in Insane difficulty is no joke.
    Bring us the girl, and wipe away the debt.

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    I'm just nodding my head the whole time thinking "ok, stop now, please."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andi View Post
    As far as Mass Effect goes, after the Mass Effect Andromeda snafu, it's basically a dead-in-the-water series. They have said they'd like to go back to it eventually, but I don't see that happening for a very long while. Andromeda made them money but it was failure in terms of how poorly it was received by fans and critics alike.
    Was it really that bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fernandito View Post
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    As far as Mass Effect goes, after the Mass Effect Andromeda snafu, it's basically a dead-in-the-water series. They have said they'd like to go back to it eventually, but I don't see that happening for a very long while. Andromeda made them money but it was failure in terms of how poorly it was received by fans and critics alike.
    Was it really that bad?
    Yes, and my thoughts are... (spoiler tag in case my review goes a bit too in depth for some people's comfort)

    Spoiler:
    My biggest issue with Andromeda is that, as silly as it might sound, there was no *soul* in the game. You have this HUGE expansive universe in which to play, you have a new protagonist, you have an entirely new crew and an entirely new ship, and believe it or not...it all felt completely rehashed to me. You have a Turian who is 'no good at being a Turian' (just like Garrus), you have an Asari doctor who is young and always has her nose in a book (just like Liara), you have a wizened veteran Krogan who actually gives you hope that they aren't all bad because he is just a big ole' teddy bear despite his gruff demeanor (just like Wrex), you have a Salarian who is OBSESSED with his work (just like Mordin), and most of your human staff are just plain boring. The only person on the ship I actually liked was Gil, but even his romance arc (male only Ryder) was under whelming. Andromeda even comes equipped with it's only Illusive Man type character. Because....why the fuck not, right?! And Ryder is just...uninspired.

    And lets not forget the villains, the Kett, who are basically Reapers (or perhaps the Collectors) in sheep's clothing. They 'ascend' just like the Reapers, they do genetic experiments on other species just like the Reapers, heck, some of the stuff they do even wreaks of indoctrination like the Reapers. And there are literally like 4 kinds of Kett in the entire game. It's just one fight after the other, of doing the same things, over and over and over. And there is the Revenant of course, which are boring machines and was mainly just a poor excuse for Sudoku type puzzle games. Because the game wasn't monotonous enough as it is... The landscapes were huge enough to constantly drive the Nomad around but there was very little to actually uncover. At one point I drove around the planet where the Krogan had settled....headed in one direct for over 5 minutes, and never uncovered anything...just the field to show me that the map had ended. I mean, why give us all that space to explore and put nothing in it to find???? They only gave us one new alien species to meet in this new galaxy, the least they could do is fill the place with awesome stuff about the Angaran.

    And the big shocker to me was that on every planet you explore, there is a huge end boss that you fight in order to completely clear each place. It's a long fight, an involved fight, and imagine my excitement when I uncovered the 2nd planet boss. I was so thrilled to be faced with another fight to learn, another strategy to uncover, and in my mind, this huge revenant had to be completely different than the first because the planets were totally different. But nope, it was exactly the same fight. Absolutely no change in mechanic. So it took another 15 minutes to kill the fucking thing and I was bored the whole time, just waiting for it to be over. Because I had to completely clear the planet, right?

    Don't get me started on the horrible crafting system, but lets just say I spent more time looking at those stupid screens than I did in exciting dialogue with my crew members.

    There is also no sense of real danger to you or your crew, despite how crazy things get with the Kett because you make no game changing decisions. Ever. And while I hate Virmire, it's a defining moment of the original trilogy. And you have none of that here.

    But, more than anything, it boiled down to lack of interesting story. My 97% playthrough took me over 90 hours and I honestly felt it had enough really good story to fill about 20 hours worth of play time. And to be fair, that 20 hours worth of story is really pretty good. The last mission was outstanding and had my heart racing, even if it was against the same mobs you'd seen a thousand times. Kadara Port was a great planet, the only place where you actually made any kind of decision that had impact further on in the story and the Reyes romance option is probably my favorite in all of Mass Effect and I think that's saying a lot. Because seriously, who doesn't like a charming pirate type, eh? I felt like there were some interesting cliff hangers (even if there were faaaaar too many) that I would have loved to see tied up in DLC but I don't think Bioware had any real plans for that. At least nothing I have seen has suggested as such. But the timing of a lot of the story was very off, so you'd get a HUGE chunk of it, and then go hours upon hours of finding nothing and talking to no one.

    Had it been a 35-40 hour game, I think I would have been much much happier with it. But as it stands, that's a whole hell of a lost of wasted time in a lot of wasted space with a lot of uninteresting characters. It made me very sad. :-(


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    Iím afraid to click that button!

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    lol...I'll sum it up for you if you want, pablo.

    The game is bad because the story is wayyyy too short for the amount of time needed to actually complete the game. It's also horribly unoriginal.

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    I know things you do in DAO have an effect on some things in DA2 and 3. Is it like that with Andromeda, do things you did in the past games affect it?

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    No, not at all. Andromeda is in no way connected to Shepard's story.

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    Oh, hopefully they'll just move on and do Mass Effect 4. But I am very excited for a potential Dragon Age 4 in the works. I may even finish Inquisition by then!

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    Without traveling into spoiler territory, it would be really hard to do a Mass Effect 4, given the different ways the trilogy could have ended. That's why they went with Andromeda, in an entirely different galaxy.

    Soooo much left for the Dragon Age story lines though

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    Oh my fucking god, this Deserted Building in Denerim is a circle of hell! My girls are getting pwned...


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    Are you talking about the huge sprawling building with all the mercs and Qunari warriors and blood mages?? I just did that this afternoon....you walk into a room and like two other doors open to other rooms and pretty soon your whole screen is full of people trying to kill you. lol

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    Also pablo, I think you're a bad influence on me.

    I had absolutely NO INTENTION of playing through DA2 and DA:I again after I finished Origins. I kinda figured this would be a one shot deal and then I'd go off to play the Witcher games or maybe something else that's new. Like the new Assassins Creed. But after all this talk, I think I'm going to end up playing the whole trilogy through again. AND, I think I'm going to invest in a few of the DLCs for DA2 which I had never played through in the past.

    Sigh. I'm such a slave to these characters.

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