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    Quote Originally Posted by pathoftheturtle View Post
    Can't you just picture SK finishing Keller's Den and saying to himself, "Gee, I've never plagiarized before, but this is really tempting... I haven't read a book that good in all my decades as an exceptionally prolific and routinely best-selling author. Of course, if I get caught, it could hurt my reputation. Hm. Yeah, it's worth it!"

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    Get the heck out of Dodge, what a moron to say that these simslarities qualify as plagiarism. redonkulous.

    couldnt resist it!

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    redonkulous, indeed

    I'm curious if anything can be done to discourage this sort of thing. Riding the publicity horse is alright as long as it's not at someone else's expense.
    Or is it just unavoidable?
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    Poor Stephen King. I hate that he has to even deal with something as sad and pathetic as this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RainInSpain View Post
    redonkulous, indeed

    I'm curious if anything can be done to discourage this sort of thing. Riding the publicity horse is alright as long as it's not at someone else's expense.
    Or is it just unavoidable?
    Unfortunately, here in the US, any idiot can bring suit, regardless of the quality of the suit. The defendant (here it's King) is almost required to defend this. Often the suit is thrown out of court but the defendant has no recourse to be reimbursed for his costs. I think it's different in other countries, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhanic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RainInSpain View Post
    redonkulous, indeed

    I'm curious if anything can be done to discourage this sort of thing. Riding the publicity horse is alright as long as it's not at someone else's expense.
    Or is it just unavoidable?
    Unfortunately, here in the US, any idiot can bring suit, regardless of the quality of the suit. The defendant (here it's King) is almost required to defend this. Often the suit is thrown out of court but the defendant has no recourse to be reimbursed for his costs. I think it's different in other countries, though.

    John
    Thanks for clarifying this to me.
    :sigh: That's what I suspected. Easy access to judicial means does have its disadvantages.
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    Obviously, there isn't much merit to this case, but do you think the guy bringing up the lawsuit feels as if he's been wronged? It could possibly be that the man is not malicious, just delusional.

    I don't feel bad for the money King has to spend as much as the damage it will do to his reputation. So many people believe any headline they read.

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    I imagine King psychically stole all of my ideas for stories over the last few decades. I should sue.

    Stephen King should sue this guy for being a dumbass. It's infinitely more provable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haunted.lunchbox View Post
    So many people believe any headline they read.
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by haunted.lunchbox View Post
    So many people believe any headline they read.
    Yes.
    I read that here so I believe it.

    No, I agree 100% seriously.
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    I have not read any posts in this thread whatsoever. However, based solely on the thread title alone, I find the plagiarism charges to be redonkulous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haunted.lunchbox View Post
    Obviously, there isn't much merit to this case, but do you think the guy bringing up the lawsuit feels as if he's been wronged? It could possibly be that the man is not malicious, just delusional.

    I don't feel bad for the money King has to spend as much as the damage it will do to his reputation. So many people believe any headline they read.
    I have the feeling that he is suing King hoping for a monetary settlement without the case going to trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhanic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by haunted.lunchbox View Post
    Obviously, there isn't much merit to this case, but do you think the guy bringing up the lawsuit feels as if he's been wronged? It could possibly be that the man is not malicious, just delusional.

    I don't feel bad for the money King has to spend as much as the damage it will do to his reputation. So many people believe any headline they read.
    I have the feeling that he is suing King hoping for a monetary settlement without the case going to trial.

    John
    That pisses me off. I hate it when opportunists create frivolous lawsuits in order to get a settlement without going to trial. I hope SK creates a long, drawn out drama that ends up costing the man a fortune in legal fees, and when the lawsuit is found to be unfounded perhaps SK can sue the guy for legal fees.

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    Redonkulous lawsuits pending.

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    bloody hell!!! poor stephen, first he gets hit with the fact he stole the whole dome thing from the simpsons and now this!!! my god is anything he wrote his own work or has he been copying other peoples work for the past 40 years!!!!

    jeez, get a life.........................oh wait..............................
    yep the sales of the losers book have just doubled

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    Quote Originally Posted by candy View Post
    bloody hell!!! poor stephen, first he gets hit with the fact he stole the whole dome thing from the simpsons and now this!!! my god is anything he wrote his own work or has he been copying other peoples work for the past 40 years!!!!

    jeez, get a life.........................oh wait..............................
    yep the sales of the losers book have just doubled

    from 2 to 4

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    I think King is stealing from himself. A character named Bill appears in IT and a character named Bill appears in Duma Key. Likewise, a Bill appears in several other King stories and books. As if the world had Bills walking around left and right. Give me a break!
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    Reading through the PDF I cannot believe this case was even considered by the claimants lawyers, It's mind boggling that this cae could even be taken to court. What now stops me from writing a book with everyday names and language and filing lawsuits of my own. redonkulous.
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    It is my oppinion that a side by side comparrison of the books , and a poll after would settle the whole thing
    No matter Duma Key would be declared the winner hands down.

    also I notice that no one is claiming plagerism on FDNS or say Just After Sunset....or any other NOT GREAT works by Sai King.WHY???????

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    http://www.ajc.com/news/judge-reject...t-1110796.html
    An Atlanta judge has thrown out a lawsuit that claimed author Stephen King stole another writer's ideas for the best-selling 2008 novel "Duma Key."

    Rod Marquardt filed a copyright infringement suit last year against King and his publisher, Simon & Schuster. Marquardt contended King took key passages and copied the plot of Marquardt's first and only novel, "Keller's Den," published in 2002 under the nom de plume "Rod Morgan."

    Marquardt's lawsuit noted that shortly after the publication of "Keller's Den," he sent a copy of the novel to King's publisher, hoping King would read the book and write a blurb for the cover. Simon & Schuster returned the book, however, and informed Marquardt that King did not accept other authors' books for review, the ruling said.

    "Keller's Den" is about a family curse that allows a malevolent force to possess its members, including the lead character Martin Keller, who takes up painting and then begins having hallucinatory experiences in which he is transported to the scenes of his paintings. The thriller "Duma Key" about a Minnesota construction company owner who loses his arm and suffers head injuries from a crane accident and then moves to a Florida island where he becomes obsessed with psychic painting.

    When Marquardt read "Duma Key" after it was published, he became convinced King stole his ideas and copied his work, said his lawsuit, which provided a lengthy list of analogous details from both novels.

    But U.S. District Judge Julie Carnes, in a ruling issued last week, said she failed to find substantial similarity between the two works and dismissed the suit.

    "Keller's Den," Carnes wrote, is essentially a religious allegory of fall and redemption, while "Duma Key" is primarily a psychological novel. The lead character of Marquardt's book is an otherwise ordinary and decent person possessed to do evil things by his family curse. Edgar Freemantle, the lead character of "Duma Key," is a man deeply depressed as a result of his accident, Carnes noted.

    Also, "Keller's Den" is driven more by action than suspense, whereas "Duma Key" is a novel that creates suspense, fear and mystery through the exploration of Freemantle's psychology, Carnes said.

    "While both works feature the idea of a newly discovered painting skill connected to some ancient evil, each work expresses that idea in very different ways," Carnes concluded. "Keller's Den" is transparent and direct in its literary devices and message, while "Duma Key" is a "mystery that strews puzzle-pieces throughout the novel, only showing how they fit together after the reader is deep within the work."

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    A judge who also seems to be a perceptive literary critic!

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    That's what I thought too, Bev. Awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bev Vincent View Post
    A judge who also seems to be a perceptive literary critic!
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    That's what I thought too, Bev. Awesome!
    Yes, that was exactly what I thought. "We have carefully observed and considered the evidence, and we find the defendant....hold on, I just need to finish this chapter....sorry, innocent of copying a boring book. Mr King, you may go, but I have one final question regarding the carefully observed manuscript: can I keep this? No? Oh, ok. Still a good book, anyway!"


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    Maybe the judge had a literary minor in collage!

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