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Thread: Cort VS. Vannay

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    Lisa, we can start our lessons anytime - nobody is in our row.

    Roland would have understood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkthoughts View Post
    You're all mental! You want to be bashed on the head with a stick and be referred to as "maggot" all day long?!

    I voted for Vannay because I find that sort of discourse more stimulating...plus I would totally get my ass whupped on a regular basis by Cort, as I have no discipline
    LOL.

    I used the same logic when I voted for Vannay.

    There would have been about a five second interval between the time I entered his class and the moment he beat me upside the head with his walking stick.

    Then again, I remember a very Cort-like algebra teacher I had in high school, and I didn't pass this subject until I took her course, where I got a 95. So there's something to be said for disciplined learning.

    I love this thread, Letti. Such a great question!



    My take on it is that Roland and his ka-tet needed both teachers in order to face up to the challenge of defending the white in a decaying world, but that Cort's tutelage was more necessary in fulfilling their ultimate quest.

    People forget that he didn't just teach cunning or ruthlessness to his pupils, but imparted a wisdom about the world, and about themselves, which was absolutely essential to their lives. I see him as a counterpart to Roland Deschain's father, and I don't think they would have been able to initially entrap Farson's men, or even return to Gilead, without Cort's direction.

    I guess I'm a bit biased in this respect since Cort is my favorite character in this saga, bar none-although Vannay is also a wonderful creation-and I see him as unique in the sense that he demonstrates that you don't necessarily need to be lovable-or even worthy of emulation in some respects-in order to be one of the good guys. Sometimes it's much better to have a mean son-of-a-bitch on your side, especially when you're facing down evil.

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    I couldn't agree more Ruth. You are speaking from my heart.
    Last edited by Letti; 12-28-2008 at 11:42 AM.

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    Indeed! Excellent post Ruthful...now, lets you, me and Letti go sit under that shady tree with some bread, cheese and maybe a little wine - and watch Cort's pupils get a good bashing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkthoughts View Post
    Indeed! Excellent post Ruthful...now, lets you, me and Letti go sit under that shady tree with some bread, cheese and maybe a little wine - and watch Cort's pupils get a good bashing

    Roland would have understood.

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    Bumping for our newer members

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    Somehow I never saw this thread (thanks Lisa for bumping).

    I chose Vannay. I majored in Religious Studies and minored in Philosophy so it seemed a natural choice for me.

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    Cort for sure!


    “The devil's voice is sweet to hear.”
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    I would follow Vannay.

    See you under that shady tree.

    "...neither the stupid jokes nor the easy surface emotions were the truth of Cuthbert Allgood."

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    I've had enough Cort like influences in my life. I'll go with Vannay this time, thank you very much.

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    I'd go with Vannay. I'd probably use logic more than i would fight in real life.
    2:45 am- 11th February 2008- I Finished The Dark Tower

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cozener View Post
    I've had enough Cort like influences in my life. I'll go with Vannay this time, thank you very much.
    I only just realized that that's [at least one of] the reason[s] I voted for Cort. Such a shit ton of various Vannays in my life...

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    I went for Vannay. Cort is way too brutal, although i understand he isn't like that just for the sake of it and has a place in that society. (Even then, there were times I thought he went too far.) Besides I've always been rubbish at action stuff like sports (although I think I'd get a kick out of learning to shoot the bah or gun).

    I'd also interested in the type of stuff Vannay would teach, history, and learning about magic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cozener View Post
    I've had enough Cort like influences in my life. I'll go with Vannay this time, thank you very much.
    I only just realized that that's [at least one of] the reason[s] I voted for Cort. Such a shit ton of various Vannays in my life...
    Is it that bad?

    Roland would have understood.

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    Don't know if I can give a definite answer to this question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean View Post
    Don't know if I can give a definite answer to this question.
    I would be happy if you could but okay.

    Roland would have understood.

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    Anything to make you happy!

    ::thinks harder::

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    I understand completely having also been surrounded by
    teachers like Vanny most of my life...
    Not to mention I firmly believe that
    Cort would have my guts within minutes. Hard call for me.
    I know my way around Vannys teaching better, and with
    my personality, I am not sure that I'd live long to make enough
    of Corts classes to be effective. I'm convinced........ I would be better suited to Vanny
    Great Question is right Letti you've done it again. Yours are the most thought provoking
    I can think of. ( sorry for rambling, I sure am tired)

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    In this case I guess I wasn't lucky with teachers. I didn't have any Vannay type during my school years. It's quite sad because I am sure they would have made good influence.

    Roland would have understood.

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    I would've needed a Vannay as well. I had an English teacher that thought I was already too good for his class (I was his favorite) and literally shut the class door in front of me (really!). So I had to educate myself, for four long years. I would've wanted someone Vannay-like to push me, to do better.

    "...neither the stupid jokes nor the easy surface emotions were the truth of Cuthbert Allgood."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily-sai View Post
    I would've wanted someone Vannay-like to push me, to do better.
    I feel the same way. Exactly. And others had more.. not fair.
    I don't say I didn't have any cool teacher. I did. But not this Vannay type.

    Roland would have understood.

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    Right now the vote is 19 to 19!
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    How cool is that, maybe a lesson for us....hahahaha

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    Close the poll! Close the poll!

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    it definitely should remain like this!!


    “The devil's voice is sweet to hear.”
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