Who would you like to have as a teacher?
The one who can teach you how to die.
Or the one who can teach you how to live.
Cort
Vannay
Who would you like to have as a teacher?
The one who can teach you how to die.
Or the one who can teach you how to live.
Roland would have understood.
cort kicks major ass end of story
I voted Cort because not every man knows how to die well.
The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket
And if you don't live well can you still die well?
Roland would have understood.
Cort reminds me of my english teacher.... and look! It worked!!
So I vote for Cort...
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I think it all depends on what you're after. I think a Gunslinger would say Cort because he's not expected to be a philosopher or try and explain the mysteries of the universe, only to survive and kill quickly and efficiently.
For me it would be neither.
"It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.
"When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah
"Every man dies but not every man really lives."
In my small universe in my mind people who live well will die well. Death is not something unique. It happens. Just the end of a short journey. Without drums. In silence.
You can't die well without living well - or that's how I see.
Roland would have understood.
I totally agree, and I love the Braveheart quote.
I just already know how to live well so from that perspective, it would be okay to be trained on the other end.
The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket
Cort is a real man.
I chose him because I'd want to be a hard-ass gunslinger. Vannay was cool too but I've already got brains and I know how to read so I can learn more myself.
Cort, he's the man, or was
I voted for Cort. I like anyone who can fight.
"People, especially children, aren't measured by their IQ. What's important about them is whether they're good or bad, and these children are bad." ~ Alan Bernard
"You needn't die happy when your day comes, but you must die satisfied, for you have lived your life from beginning to end and ka is always served." ~ Roland Deschain
If I can't vote for Los' I'm not voting! Now theres a teacher!
"It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.
"When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah
You're all mental! You want to be bashed on the head with a stick and be referred to as "maggot" all day long?!
I voted for Vannay because I find that sort of discourse more stimulating...plus I would totally get my ass whupped on a regular basis by Cort, as I have no discipline
LOL.
I used the same logic when I voted for Vannay.
There would have been about a five second interval between the time I entered his class and the moment he beat me upside the head with his walking stick.
Then again, I remember a very Cort-like algebra teacher I had in high school, and I didn't pass this subject until I took her course, where I got a 95. So there's something to be said for disciplined learning.
I love this thread, Letti. Such a great question!
My take on it is that Roland and his ka-tet needed both teachers in order to face up to the challenge of defending the white in a decaying world, but that Cort's tutelage was more necessary in fulfilling their ultimate quest.
People forget that he didn't just teach cunning or ruthlessness to his pupils, but imparted a wisdom about the world, and about themselves, which was absolutely essential to their lives. I see him as a counterpart to Roland Deschain's father, and I don't think they would have been able to initially entrap Farson's men, or even return to Gilead, without Cort's direction.
I guess I'm a bit biased in this respect since Cort is my favorite character in this saga, bar none-although Vannay is also a wonderful creation-and I see him as unique in the sense that he demonstrates that you don't necessarily need to be lovable-or even worthy of emulation in some respects-in order to be one of the good guys. Sometimes it's much better to have a mean son-of-a-bitch on your side, especially when you're facing down evil.
We really are sisters in our souls, Lisa.
Roland would have understood.
When I start to think that I am the only who... you appear.
Roland would have understood.
I can't vote here. The answer completely depends on the subject I'm taught. If it's academic, it's Vannay; if it's skills, it's Cort. (and, dear ladies, if you have no discipline at all, you won't be eligible for gunslinging anyway - it's after all military kind of occupation - so Cort wouldn't be your teacher in any case)
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sadly true - Roland would despair of me I'm afraid
Aaah, but Susannah eventually became a gunslinger. And yes, I realize Cort was not her teacher. But still. I would like to think the civilization of Gilead would come around.if it's skills, it's Cort. (and, dear ladies, if you have no discipline at all, you won't be eligible for gunslinging anyway - it's after all military kind of occupation - so Cort wouldn't be your teacher in any case)
And, speaking from personal experience, I have seen women whip the shit out of men. So gender means nothing.
I'd pay good money to take a shot at Cort. He'd probably still clean my clock, but it would be worth a try.
"People, especially children, aren't measured by their IQ. What's important about them is whether they're good or bad, and these children are bad." ~ Alan Bernard
"You needn't die happy when your day comes, but you must die satisfied, for you have lived your life from beginning to end and ka is always served." ~ Roland Deschain
I didn't refer to gender at all. Susannah was a gunslinger; my wife would make a great one, too. My main point was discipline: it's something that Susannah had to learn. It has nothing to do with refusal to think for oneself (as many people seem to believe), but it's understanding that military occupation has its pecularities. Back to gender, though: at the times when Cort was teaching, female gunslingers were something inconceivable... so, here again, he would have never taught you...
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Clean my clock" what an excellent expression!
Thats not really how I think of discipline, although I think "refusal to think for oneself" is often party to a lack of discipline.My main point was discipline: it's something that Susannah had to learn. It has nothing to do with refusal to think for oneself (as many people seem to believe), but it's understanding that military occupation has its pecularities
Personally, I have no problem with being responsible for and thinking for myself - when I said I lacked discipline I meant I'm terrible at things like time keeping, being orderly...the sort of stuff I consider boring (Which makes it sound like I'm contradicting myself when I say I'm responsible for myself - but I always take responsibility for my short comings aswell as my strong points.)
Although, like Eddie, I'm sure Roland would find the right angle from which to bring out my inner gunslinger/disciplinarian