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    Ledger did a fantastic job, that just doesn't reflect a great deal on the director in my opinion.
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    Well... I truly have to respect the fact that Nolan "allowed" Ledger to bring in that kind of performance. Not every director would - it took a lot of guts on Heath's part to even want to go that dark and become so immersed in the part. Nolan had to be supportive of that, encourage it and then make sure the camera caught it. It would have been very easy for him to ask Heath to pull back some. I do respect that of him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turtlex View Post
    I would agree with Prestige. I thought it was okay, but utterly forgettable once I walked out of the theater. I put more weight on The Dark Knight, that's for Ledger's performance.
    I preferred The Prestige, but then again you know, if you're a Batman fan you're bound to prefer those - whereas magicians/illusionists/Victorian England is really my bag and I was more personally invested in The Prestige over Batman because of that. The level of directorship was as good in each, but my attention wandered at some points during Batman Begins and I couldn't say the same about Prestige.

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    Oh, um, I didn't even like Batman Begins. I was referring to only The Dark Knight. I think Batman Begins is just an average comic book movie, nothing special or distinguishing about it. One I didn't even enjoy as much as any of the X-Men movies.

    I did like the Prestige, and it kept my attention, and it was an okay movie ... just, it didn't stay with me at all. I wasn't impressed by the directing or the acting, and once the movie was over, so went my interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turtlex View Post
    I wasn't impressed by the directing or the acting
    I was...

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    I know, Jean. And a lot of folks were, just not me. To me, with the exception of the language, it could have been a Lifetime Made-For-TV movie starring Eddie Cibrian. :shrugs: Oh well.
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    Well Nolan old boy, we sure had a great run, didn't we ?

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    sorry, feevie, I like Nolan, but Hitch has has a greater impact on me personally


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    How is this even possible? Nolan? Greatest director? Maybe in another decade or two when we can objectively judge his work. Hitchcock all the way. Kubrick should've been second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by She-Ra View Post
    sorry, feevie, I like Nolan, but Hitch has has a greater impact on me personally


    Quote Originally Posted by Girlystevedave View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by turtlex View Post
    .. it kept my attention, and it was an okay movie ... just, it didn't stay with me at all. I wasn't impressed by the directing or the acting, and once the movie was over, so went my interest.
    This sums up my feelings towards Hitchcock's films in general.
    Quote Originally Posted by Girlystevedave View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by feverishparade View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by turtlex View Post
    .. it kept my attention, and it was an okay movie ... just, it didn't stay with me at all. I wasn't impressed by the directing or the acting, and once the movie was over, so went my interest.
    This sums up my feelings towards Hitchcock's films in general.
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    Hitchcock....it's a run away train!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by turtlex View Post
    Opposites attract, boyfriend!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Girlystevedave View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tenant View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pathoftheturtle View Post
    The true essence of directing may be the skill of playing upon that very psychology.
    of producing, you mean?
    Of film, anyway.

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    aNd this dear friendas is why I love you all so.

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    Because we vote in tournaments ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo View Post
    How is this even possible? Nolan? Greatest director? Maybe in another decade or two when we can objectively judge his work. Hitchcock all the way. Kubrick should've been second.
    Buuuut, he wasn't.

    Thing is, we're not being asked to vote on who we objectively think is the greatest achiever or the greatest on technical merit etc, we're being asked who in our personal opinion is the greatest. In that case, greatest constitutes whatever has impacted you as an individual, not cinema as a whole.

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    If you honestly think that Hitchcock and Kubrick really are the two best directors ever, then you ought to be impressed that this contest came so close to your ideal. What are the odds?

    Quote Originally Posted by turtlex View Post
    ...I think Batman Begins is just an average comic book movie, nothing special or distinguishing about it. One I didn't even enjoy as much as any of the X-Men movies. ...
    Or any of the earlier Batman movies? I think TDK was far better, (which shocked me at first viewing) but I would not say that I didn't like Batman Begins.

    Interesting to recall that last year, the Joker was our runner up in Best Movie Character of All Time tournament.

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    Well, I'm sorry then, because I approached this as a cinephile, weighing each candidate against the entirety of world cinema. For me Nolan wouldn't rate anywhere in the top 30 or so, maybe even top 50. I just don't understand what the fascination with him is that he's advanced so far. Aside from a few moments here and there in The Presitige and Memento, his films have been from good to average.

    Just for shits and giggles, as if anyone cares, here are just some of the directors I rate higher than Nolan: Hitchcock, Kubrick, Scorsese, Kurosawa, Truffaut, Bergman, Chaplin, Buuel, Cronenberg, Jodorowsky, Eisenstein, Tarkovsky, Fassbinder, Fellini, Scott, Verhoeven, Godard, Gilliam, Dreyer, Ozu, Jarmusch, Spielberg, Lang, Soderbergh, Capra, Coppola, Mizoguchi, Polanski, Renoir, Wilder. That's probably my top 30, in no particular order. And no Nolan.

    Just one man's opinion, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo View Post
    Just for shits and giggles, as if anyone cares, here are just some of the directors I rate higher than Nolan: Hitchcock, Kubrick, Scorsese, Kurosawa, Truffaut, Bergman, Chaplin, Buuel, Cronenberg, Jodorowsky, Eisenstein, Tarkovsky, Fassbinder, Fellini, Scott, Verhoeven, Godard, Gilliam, Dreyer, Ozu, Jarmusch, Spielberg, Lang, Soderbergh, Capra, Coppola, Mizoguchi, Polanski, Renoir, Wilder. That's probably my top 30, in no particular order. And no Nolan.

    Just one man's opinion, of course.
    The only ones from your list I'd place above Nolan because of their filmography alone are Kurosawa, Bergman, and Kubrick. He's just as good, or perhaps better than Scorsese, Scott, Fellini, Soderbergh, etc, etc.

    Some folks are making it a rule to vote against Nolan because they're still butthurt they he beat out Spielberg, Tarantino etc. He's done more in his relatively short time as a director than some of the other candidates have done in their entire careers.

    And of course, this is just my opinion.
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    Is prejudice more a factor in favor of Nolan or against him? Who's to say?

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    Touche , my friend. Touche.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turtlex View Post
    Oh, um, I didn't even like Batman Begins. I was referring to only The Dark Knight. I think Batman Begins is just an average comic book movie, nothing special or distinguishing about it. One I didn't even enjoy as much as any of the X-Men movies.
    Holy crap, really? Man, I'm surprised. Have you ever posted a longer opinion on Batman Begins, turtlex? I'm interested to know more.
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