Guillermo Del Toro's IMDB Page
Notable films : Pan's Labyrinth, Hellboy I/II, Mimic, The Devil's Backbone, Blade II
Ron Howard's IMDB Page
Notable films : A Beautiful Mind, Apollo 13, Cinderella Man, Willow
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TDGT - Round 2 - Guillermo Del Toro vs Ron Howard
Guillermo Del Toro's IMDB Page
Notable films : Pan's Labyrinth, Hellboy I/II, Mimic, The Devil's Backbone, Blade II
Ron Howard's IMDB Page
Notable films : A Beautiful Mind, Apollo 13, Cinderella Man, Willow
hard choice this one, but had to do De Toro for Pans Labrynth alone
Del Toro for me too.
Gotta give it to Howard. He's made some very good movies over the year. Del Toro has talent but look at his list of movies...Hellboy, Blade II...I haven't seen Pan's Labrynth yet but I can't give the vote because the guy made one good movie that I haven't seen yet. He's got talent but hasn't to me, proved that he deserves to be one of the greatest directors of all time, yet. I've been more impressed with the movies he's produced/written and hasn't directed.
Howard on the other hand...Backdraft, Apollo 13, Beautiful Mind, Frost/Nixon...and even his other movies like Ransom, Far and Away and Cocoon are all perfectly watchable.
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Del Toro.
Having made Pan's Labyrinth and Devil's Backbone (my personal favorite) he can do whatever he pleases - retire, die, not give a damn - he is already immortal
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Pan's Labyrinth is the very film that makes this choice a tough one for me. I thought it was a horrid, plodding, and completely without merit. The acting was ok, but the story itself held no value to me. Not the mark of a good director in my opinion. However, I feel this film is an anomally as every other film Del Toro has made has been spectacular. Go figure.
Ron Howard on the other hand has made some really enjoyable films, some feel good films, and some award winning films. BUT he has never made anything that left me in awe of the film itself. Even Apollo 13, which was a wonder in filmdom, lacked some special spark in the story that left me just a little disconnected. I wasn't ever absorbed into the story of the film. Oh well.
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Del Toro for me. One of my favorite directors by far.
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Del Toro, of course.
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Whoever made the decision to cast Ron Perlman in the Hellboy title role deserves a little credit right there. Not great films, still, of course, not great at all, but I must admit that they were adapted MUCH better than I expected them to be.
Echoing Path's post - I don't think the Hellboy films receive the recognition they deserve. They're not incredible films, but they were very well made, and the way that Del Toro was able to capture the feel of the comics and re-create it faithfully in another medium is what makes Del Toro such a great director IMO.
Among other things, yes. However, I love Howard, too. *sigh* Another tough call.
The only Howard film I've been overly impressed with is A Beautiful Mind. Don't really care for the others.
Ron Howard is a perfectly adequate director. Del Toro is an artist.
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i was dead set on voting for howard until i read this. i completely agree
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I wouldn't exactly call Hellboy, Blade II or Mimic art.
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I didn't see Hellboy or Blade II, but, though I am thoroughly satisfied with Mimic, I judge Del Toro by those two monsters, Pan's Labyrinth and The Devil's Backbone.
I agree that no director should be rejected on the account of one poor movie he made; everybody is entitled to a flop once in a while. However, I am sure a director, just like a musician or a writer, can be considered good/great/brilliant if he made even one good/great/brilliant movie. If someone made a masterpiece, it logically shows that he is able to make masterpieces, even if he never makes more than that single one; and Del Toro has already made two.
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If I believed that then I would have had to vote for Francis Ford Coppola.He’s done more good ones than that. Not as spectacular as Del Toro’s finest, but still solid works on a human level. He does have the huge fault of being fundamentally a Hollywood director; a kind of poor man’s Spielberg, but Del Toro, apparently, might sell out more himself.
Willow, one definitely formulaic film that Howard directed, I count among the finest of all such pitiful specimens, certainly better than Hellboy. However, I do, as I said, find Hellboy fairly decent, and I can’t find any excuse for that damn Grinch movie no matter how I try. True, everybody messes up once in a while, but putting that with all the rest, yes, I’m now leaning toward Del Toro. Satisfied?
Path - the thing is, as it is with all opinion, especially about cinema, each of us uses our own personal criteria when voting. That's the fun of it!
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what "that"? I wasn't making a general statement. I was speaking strictly about del Toro.If I believed that then I would have had to vote for Francis Ford Coppola.
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