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    I understand his quality as a actor but at least half of the drawing of three is detta walker wanting to kill Roland and Eddie because they are white and then sings of Susannah touches on it quite a bit too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslinger91 View Post
    I understand his quality as a actor but at least half of the drawing of three is detta walker wanting to kill Roland and Eddie because they are white and then sings of Susannah touches on it quite a bit too
    Correct you are; expect lots of changes (the adaptation is believed to be heavy on the "adapt" part).
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    It irks my soul I hate when they do that to adaptations

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    So far this seems to be a very very loose adaptation of the series so I'd be surprised if we did get a sequel that it would follow the same route.

    That being said I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslinger91 View Post
    I understand his quality as a actor but at least half of the drawing of three is detta walker wanting to kill Roland and Eddie because they are white and then sings of Susannah touches on it quite a bit too
    Unpopular opinion: Apart from the caricature of Detta shouting "honky mahfah" every other sentence, the race dynamic does not really factor into the series all that much.

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    I understand his quality as a actor but at least half of the drawing of three is detta walker wanting to kill Roland and Eddie because they are white and then sings of Susannah touches on it quite a bit too
    Correct you are; expect lots of changes (the adaptation is believed to be heavy on the "adapt" part).
    If you subscribe to the "19th loop theory" (which I believe most do), my understanding is that the film will represent the "20th and final loop(?)". hence, Roland has the horn of Eld. So all bets are kinda off is the premise, which I find very interesting and a very good way to approach the series in film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslinger91 View Post
    I understand his quality as a actor but at least half of the drawing of three is detta walker wanting to kill Roland and Eddie because they are white and then sings of Susannah touches on it quite a bit too
    Unpopular opinion: Apart from the caricature of Detta shouting "honky mahfah" every other sentence, the race dynamic does not really factor into the series all that much.

    That is quite an over simplification of her character. The racial aspect played a large part in her character. Now, they will need to fill that void with another equally as poignant dynamic IMHO. "A few Honky Muhfa's indeed". I would have thought more of you, Ferny. That dynamic is deeply woven in the cloth of her character in the books. Now, does it need to be reflected in the film? Maybe not, but something as passionate does IMHO. It defines a large part of her character make-up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslinger91 View Post
    I understand his quality as a actor but at least half of the drawing of three is detta walker wanting to kill Roland and Eddie because they are white and then sings of Susannah touches on it quite a bit too
    Not quite. The latter half of the book introduces Odetta Holmes and her evil split personality of Detta Walker. Half of that time is divided between Odetta Holmes and Detta Walker. So...perhaps a quarter of The Drawing of the Three involves Detta making the journey along the beach of the Western Sea even more hellish for Roland and Eddie.

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    That is quite an over simplification of her character. The racial aspect played a large part in her character. Now, they will need to fill that void with another equally as poignant dynamic IMHO. "A few Honky Muhfa's indeed". I would have thought more of you, Ferny. That dynamic is deeply woven in the cloth of her character in the books. Now, does it need to be reflected in the film? Maybe not, but something as passionate does IMHO. It defines a large part of her character make-up.
    I am fairly certain that Detta did not refer to Roland Deschain as "the really bad man" as compared to Eddie Dean because Roland was extra white or couldn't slam dunk. The reason was deeper than melanin.

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    In all fairness you may be right, Bill. It's been years since I've done a complete re read. Maybe there's more to the race dynamic than my resin filled mind is able to recall.

    I just know that when I think back on the series and all of the interactions between the Tet, the racial portion takes up the least space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fernandito View Post
    I just know that when I think back on the series and all of the interactions between the Tet, the racial portion takes up the least space.
    Likewise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isamu Dyson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslinger91 View Post
    I understand his quality as a actor but at least half of the drawing of three is detta walker wanting to kill Roland and Eddie because they are white and then sings of Susannah touches on it quite a bit too
    Not quite. The latter half of the book introduces Odetta Holmes and her evil split personality of Detta Walker. Half of that time is divided between Odetta Holmes and Detta Walker. So...perhaps a quarter of The Drawing of the Three involves Detta making the journey even more hellish for Roland and Eddie.

    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin1958 View Post
    That is quite an over simplification of her character. The racial aspect played a large part in her character. Now, they will need to fill that void with another equally as poignant dynamic IMHO. "A few Honky Muhfa's indeed". I would have thought more of you, Ferny. That dynamic is deeply woven in the cloth of her character in the books. Now, does it need to be reflected in the film? Maybe not, but something as passionate does IMHO. It defines a large part of her character make-up.
    I am fairly certain that Detta did not refer to Roland Deschain as "the really bad man" as compared to Eddie Dean because Roland was extra white or couldn't slam dunk. The reason was deeper than melanin.
    Where the fuck did you pull this outta? I was not specific and I did no comparison. Her prejudice went back much further than, Roland as I recall. He was simply the present manifestation of it. Some folks just like to argue "race" even when it's not the sole topic.

    Ferny, I'll give you a pass. I was just surprised is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin1958 View Post
    Isamu, WTF is your agenda?
    No agenda. I just think people are putting an inordinate amount of importance on Mr. Deschain's skin color as it pertains to the Detta/Roland conflict. There are other more important reasons why she hates/fears him in particular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isamu Dyson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin1958 View Post
    Isamu, WTF is your agenda?
    No agenda. I just think people are putting an inordinate amount of importance on Mr. Deschain's skin color as it pertains to the Detta/Roland conflict. There are other more important reasons why she hates/fears him in particular.

    First of all, you mis-represented my post. I never said any "angry stuff". I'm unsure why you seem to want to go on a "Race" rant, but I did not provoke or even participate in one. I really don't need this shit and you can go have at it to your delight. Whatever you want to spin it as, Roland and Detta had a race issue in the books. It was written and whether you agree or not it is what it is. I was only discussing the matter in that venue.

    Regardless, have a ball. I'm out of here with that kind of ignorance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin1958 View Post
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    Isamu, WTF is your agenda?
    No agenda. I just think people are putting an inordinate amount of importance on Mr. Deschain's skin color as it pertains to the Detta/Roland conflict. There are other more important reasons why she hates/fears him in particular.

    First of all, you mis-represented my post. I never said any "angry stuff". I'm unsure why you seem to want to go on a "Race" rant, but I did not provoke or even participate in one. I really don't need this shit and you can go have at it to your delight. Whatever you want to spin it as, Roland and Detta had a race issue in the books. It was written and whether you agree or not it is what it is. I was only discussing the matter in that venue.

    Regardless, have a ball. I'm out of here with that kind of ignorance.
    I am not ranting. I am not shouting, nor am I swearing. Also, I did not say or imply that Detta didn't use racial slurs against Roland or felt ire towards him at least in part because of racism. My point is that the root of their conflict was more substantive than her disliking him simply because he bears the appearance of a man that looks like the Caucasians/white folk of Earth as Detta knows it.

    To be frank, I wonder why this is still something people making into an issue more than a year now after the decision to cast Idris Elba was brought to the public's perception.

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    We need a trailer (or at least a teaser) REAL bad. Without it we only have old arguments to rehash. It's probably not going to happen but I am hoping to see one with Logan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUBE View Post
    We need a trailer (or at least a teaser) REAL bad. Without it we only have old arguments to rehash. It's probably not going to happen but I am hoping to see one with Logan.
    Wolverine and Roland Deschain in the same trailer would be too much testosterone to handle .

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    Why does she keep calling it Dark Towers?
    Hearts are tough, she said, most times hearts don't break, and I'm sure that's right . . . but what about then? What about who we were then? What about hearts in Atlantis?

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    She's talking about the sequel, which she wasn't supposed to

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    Getting a little impatient here.. where's our damn trailer!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwritecode View Post
    Why does she keep calling it Dark Towers?
    The Dark Tower meets Fawlty Towers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwritecode View Post
    Why does she keep calling it Dark Towers?
    She doesn't read?

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    Winnick could call it flutergork for all I care, so long as her performance is good .

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