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    The Bride with White Hair is a martial arts fantasy film, of the wuxia style. Not a horror, per se, although there are strong supernatural (and "forces of evil") elements. If you are not accustomed to '80s and early '90s Hong Kong fantasy films, this movie will be 90 minutes of "What the fuck was that?" If it is not a genre you enjoy, I imagine you'll think about it the same way you do a baseball movie.

    Having said that, I believe the relationship aspect of the movie is powerful. Here's my review. You can decide if it is something worth your while to seek out.

    The Bride with White Hair
    Directed by Ronny Yu
    Starring Brigitte Lin, Leslie Cheung, and Francis Ng
    In Cantonese with English subtitles
    Film: 5 stars (out of 5)

    You would never distrust me, would you?

    And so we are introduced to a fundamental question in this tragic story. A question that changes the course of the lives of several characters, especially the two star-crossed lovers central to this fantasy/romance swordplay action film.

    The Bride with White Hair (based on a popular novel and directed by Ronny Yu) is a visual feast and wraps the viewer up in its compelling story. We are treated to love, lust, loyalty, and betrayal. Kindheartedness, naïveté, and the worst kind of evil. The movie asks the question of would you renounce your family or your clan for love? What happens if you have forever vowed to trust your lover but you are now facing a situation where you are not quite sure you can? What if you have been duped?

    The film starts out with a prologue: a snow-covered man sits forlorn on an icy ledge from which grows a special flower that is said to have healing powers. The flower is not for just anyone—not even the ailing emperor. It is for a woman. You see, the man has been guarding the flower for 10 years, and we get the feeling that he will guard it for eternity if that is what it will take.

    The film proper starts off in a flashback, as swordsman Yi Hang Cho (Leslie Cheung) tells of growing up as the star student of the Wu Tang clan, one of several “good” clans who have joined forces to protect the Ching dynasty from the evil outside clans. Yi Hang’s master is like a father to him and is grooming him to be the next Joint Chief of the 8 clans. As a boy of about 7 or so, Yi Hang has a strange encounter with a mysterious “wolf girl” who saves his life one night.

    Jump to about 15 years later. Yi Hang is quite the troublemaker, but in a kindhearted roguish sort of way. He gets along well with the others in training, especially clan sister Lu Hua Ho. She’s a no-nonsense sort and her icy determination has her thinking about the Joint Chief position. They seem destined for each other based on their positions and training.

    However, Yi Hang begins to have second thoughts about this whole “protect the dynasty” thing. These are brought to a head when he is helping a couple of peasants and encounters our wolf girl again (played by Brigitte Lin). Yi Hang is stricken by her mysterious, enchanting beauty and follows her.

    Meanwhile, while Yi Hang is spying on this mysterious woman (who is now bathing in a secluded pool), we are introduced to the Chi siblings. This brother/sister team were long ago exiled from the clan and in their vengeful hatred have established an evil cult with the sole purpose of destroying the 8 clans. The Chi siblings are not only evil, but creepy and almost comical in their bickering and handling of the cult affairs. There is more than meets the eye regarding the siblings; the nature of which is not all that surprising, but the reveal is handled very effectively.

    It turns out that the wolf girl was taken in by the Chi siblings and brought up in the cult. They have made her into a killing force, and that is the only life she has known up to this point.

    So you see where this is heading. Yi Hang is tasked to lead the clans in a pre-emptive strike against the evil cult, but he just mopes around, all moody and reflective. He can’t get this mysterious woman out of his mind. Wolf girl (who wasn’t even given a name by the siblings, lest she think of herself as a person rather than the killing machine they want her to be) is also having second thoughts about her purpose in life, and is also preoccupied by fending off the advances of the Chi brother.

    When she is sent out on yet another mission she encounters Yi Hang again. This time their feelings are too much and they go off together. Lu Hua has seen this and reports back to the clan chiefs. They all figure that he has been bewitched.

    Which brings us to another interesting question that the film asks. What is love, if not some sort of enchantment or bewitchment? Who among us has not had the feeling that some force (love? lust? infatuation?) has control over us? That we are powerless to stop ourselves, even if we know it can (or will) come to a bad end?

    Back to the film--has Yi Hang been enchanted by an evil witch? Is he merely overcome with infatuation with the mysterious and the beautiful? Or has he found true love?

    Up to now, Brigitte Lin’s character has been in the background, but from this point on she is a force in this film—her expressions; her eyes; her range. The transformation her character undergoes at this point—from cold killer witch to a woman experiencing the first taste of overwhelming erotic love—would be difficult for a lesser actress. But Lin more than carries it off.

    The two fall hard for each other. In a touching scene, he gives her a name. They make love. She asks him for a promise: “I hate it most when people distrust. Please don’t ever distrust me.” He swears on heaven and earth that he will never let her down.

    Which brings us back to the quote I used to start off this review. Taking it a step further, how would you react if you had given up everything you had achieved, your future, all you have ever known—for love? And then are betrayed?

    I’ll stop with plot, because the last very powerful 30 minutes of the film needs to be experienced, not explained. This is where the elements of trust, sacrifice, and betrayal come in. The way these elements are handled sets The Bride with White Hair apart from many other sword/fantasy films, as good as they may be.

    The film asks provocative questions and does not compromise the emotion with insertions of the Hong Kong silliness common to these types of movies. We do get the “spectacle” of the Hong Kong sword fantasy genre, with lots of whooshing around and chopped up people. Action, emotion, good vs. evil, depth of character--it all adds up to A+ entertainment.

    This is easily one of the 10 best Hong Kong films of the last 20 years. The sets and filming techniques are visually stunning, and the musical score is outstanding. Plus, the last spoken line in the film is a classic.

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    the way you describe it, bears want to watch it!!

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    i also recommend A Chinese Ghost Story
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    which one? 1987 or 2011?

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    '87, havent seen the remake yet or the anime movie
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    thank you!

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    i also highly recommend Tetsuo: The Iron Man, Body Hammer and The Bullet Man they're classed as cyberpunk but to me they're more body horror
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    I love the aesthetics of cyberpunk. Don't think have ever seen it in movies other than Jeunet/Caro

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    I had zero expectations for "Excision" but it is surprisingly good. Dark, funny, sad and well acted. A strange cast with the likes of Traci Lords, John Waters and Ray Wise. The plot involves a delusional teenager and her disfunctional family.

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    have watched The Sentinel - thank you guys, a very enjoyable, sweet little movie. I read the novel, too (not that much of it is left in the film, besides the very idea of Sentinels), have very fond memories of it because it was one of the first books I ever read in English, some 25 years ago. I remember that the story there was insanely complicated, but very good. Want to reread it some time soon.

    Have also watched Shattered Lives, don't know what to say. It would have made a perfect short, but as a full-length film it just doesn't work. I gave it a 4 nevertheless, as a compromise: it doesn't deserve it as a film, but it would be a 5+ as a short.

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    I didn't even know there was a "2"

    maybe friendly goblins will add Konvitz to their treasury...

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    There are a few older horror films I'd love to see, because I watched a History of Horror with Mark Gatiss, and he covered horror films up to the 70s, and he did another programme about european horror films. I'd love to see Nosferatu. Films from that era tend to freak me out because of the way they were filmed.

    Actually, the piece of film that has scared me the most (appeared in dreams and everything) is that old footage of the guy trying to fly off the top of the Eiffel Tower, with the people measuring the dent he made in the concrete (or whatever it was) after he jumped, and them carrying him away. God that freaked me out. I know it's real, and that's part of it. Another part of it was the fact that I was shown it in a history lecture in uni while on a primary school teacher training course...while being shown videos that were "ideal to be shown in the classroom." I was nineteen when I saw it, and was kinda freaked when I got home and my dad asked me what I'd done in uni that day. I started telling him, and he said "yeah...and they get the tape measure out...freaked me out too"

    Anyway, back to horror films. I've got a few dvds that are waiting to be watched, namely the Omen Pentology- the four Omen films and the remake of the first. I saw the remake recently with my mum, but I really need to see the rest of them. I watched the original a good few years ago- my mum's a bit of a horror junkie (she's the one who got me into Stephen King books- by having them on her bookshelf and me nicking them...) and I watched it with her, but it's been years, and I'd really love a rewatch. My boyfriend has watched them, they were a birthday present from me.

    Also in the pile is Halloween (which again I saw years ago), the REC trilogy (I've seen the first one, and it's much better, much scarier than the American (?) remake), and the original Japanese version of The Grudge (I saw the Sarah Michelle Geller one in the cinema, it was good, but I'm hoping this is better)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean View Post
    I didn't even know there was a "2"

    maybe friendly goblins will add Konvitz to their treasury...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacqui View Post
    and the original Japanese version of The Grudge (I saw the Sarah Michelle Geller one in the cinema, it was good, but I'm hoping this is better)
    Ju-on is very good, do watch it! Also if you haven't seen the Ringu series yet, it may be worth checking out!
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    Just watched Joshua after putting in in my queue from seeing it nominated in the horror contest. I really liked it, but was NOT expecting for it to end where it did. I was fully expecting another 5 or 10 minutes since it seemed like a little too much was left up for interpretation. Despite that, it's a really great psychological horror and all the performances are really good. Glad someone mentioned it, since I didn't know it existed until then.
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    Thanks for reminding me, Ricky. I need to get to that one soon. I too hadn't heard of it since before we started this tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky View Post
    Just watched Joshua after putting in in my queue from seeing it nominated in the horror contest. I really liked it, but was NOT expecting for it to end where it did. I was fully expecting another 5 or 10 minutes since it seemed like a little too much was left up for interpretation. Despite that, it's a really great psychological horror and all the performances are really good. Glad someone mentioned it, since I didn't know it existed until then.
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    In that case, thanks, Jean!
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    I've had bad luck with my horrors lately. I finally sat down to watch Vampyr but my xbox doesn't play the subs and I got sick of trying to follow an online script, so I bit the bullet to watch on my laptop and now I can't make the damned commentary track shut off and I was enjoying it so much. So then I decided I'd try watching Stoker and the power went out half an hour in and it was late so I went to bed and I was about fifteen minutes into House With Laughing Windows and the file was messed up and my Eyes Without A Face's subtitles didn't work properly.... I hate films partially done because it's so hard for me to go back and continue watching it, because I start a new film then a new one then I forget. There are a lot of great films I still haven't rewatched (Frailty, 28 Days Later, The Pianist, Donnie Darko and others) that I was watching with my ex and she had a habit of alling asleep during a movie so I stop it halfway through and long story over, I still haven't finished or rewatched them despite having watched about 700 movies and countless hours of televisions series.
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    You haven't seen Stoker yet? Definitely go back and watch it. I'm pretty sure you'll love it. Vampyr is a great one too, but you never really hear anyone talking about it. It's been ages since I've seen it, I really should go rewatch that one sometime soon.
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    I was loving Stoker and was very much looking forward to it because I LOVE Mia Wasikowska and I've been anxious to see a Park film finally. I'll probably finish watching it tonight, I've just been to busy to finish it the past few days. And Vampyr was really good, some very creatively constructive shots, really creepy stuff too. Without subtitles and not being able to read the text that was all in German I had no idea what the hell was happening haha
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    I completely agree about Vampyr. It has one of the most memorable shots to me, the one where someone's being carried in a coffin and you see it from their perspective.
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