Well, you're quite right about that. Sorry if I was being a wet blanket. The first one wasn't all bad. Wasn't all good, though. Here, I'm more like just wondering if Del Toro, great as he is at what he does, is really the best choice to re-do PS.
Well, you're quite right about that. Sorry if I was being a wet blanket. The first one wasn't all bad. Wasn't all good, though. Here, I'm more like just wondering if Del Toro, great as he is at what he does, is really the best choice to re-do PS.
I can see the concern, but I think that he did a good job with reality as well as fantasy in his films, e.g., the reality of the orphanage against the supernatural in The Devil's Backbone and the reality of war against the fantastic in Pan's Labyrinth. Thus, I think we stand a good chance all around of his getting the balance between normal family life, including the impact of a loved one's death, and the mythical and mystical elements of the burial ground.
It'll take a lot more than words and guns,
A whole lot more than riches and muscle.
The hands of the many must join as one.
And together we'll cross the river.
Puscifer, "The Humbling River"
Insomnia would be awesome to see. I always get worried when directors start talking about adapting SK though. I'm one of those people that if it's not perfect (and it never is) then I'm always terribly disappointed. It's one of the things I'm trying to overcome as I get older.
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Del Toro can have It...I want Pet Semetary.
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I'm really looking forward to seeing GDT doing "At the Mountains of Madness"... even if not a Stephen King tale, Lovecraft's an author that SK thinks highly of. Still disappointed that del Toro is out of "The Hobbit"...
Yeah, I have mixed feelings about that. On one hand I'm glad Jackson is back on board as I thought he did a wonderful job on Lord of the Rings. I love Del Toro's work though and his creature stuff, and I think his version of The Hobbit would have been something very interesting to see.Originally Posted by the dalinean
I wonder if Dream's library that features in The Sandman books has a video section?
No mention of Del Toro, but it looks like they're looking for a "high-level director" to tackle the material.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movi...ng-remake.html
1stly i love the film "Pet Semetary" & i don't honestly think it needs to be remade. but the 2nd one is a piece of shit. "IT" is a good one too.
but if they choose to make it just a 2 hr. film than they might as well leave that one alone as well. i think it would be interesting to see this dude make an SK" film i haven't seen much of his work to be honest, but from what i have seen it's not bad. i loved "Hellboy" i didn't see the sequel though so i can't comment on that one.
& i agree he's be PERFECT if he went & decided to do 'Rose Madder' it fits his tone perfectly of the films he normally does. i think "Insomnia" does as well. i think he would do a hell of a job with that one as well.
So long as no one makes The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon until I do, Del Toro can make which King novel he wishes.
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Thanks. I think you'd agree even more with my Rose Madder suggestion fitting his usual tone if you HAD seen more of his past work. I love del Toro. RM is one of the SK books I like least, but as I said, I believe that BdT could capatilize on its potential like no one else. And you're probably right about Insomnia, too, which I also don't love. I bet del Toro could change that. Occasionally, I see a movie adaptation that I actually like better than the original. Secret Window, to give a somewhat relevant example.Sorry, no. Compared to the books, they both stink BAD.
I'm a huge fan of Guillermo del Toro's works. I regard Pan's Labyrinth as a genuine masterpiece. There's something eerily beautiful about all of his films. I'm still disappointed that he left The Hobbit, but hugely excited for At the Mountains of Madness.
Del Toro would definitely be the best choice to direct IT. The whole idea of the children growing up and losing their innocence is a theme which recurs again and again throughout del Toro's films. He's huge fan of Lovecraft, and It is a very Lovecraftean creature. I think Del Toro is the best creature-designer and set-decorator in the filmmaking business – he would have a great time designing all the dark recesses of Derry and bringing Its different forms to life. He's also a big fan of Frankenstein and the Creature from the Black Lagoon, and we know It takes on both of those forms. Hah, I'd love if there was a scene where It transformed into the Pale Man from Pan's Labyrinth...
well on both accounts i don't expect they'd be 100% faithful. i've read "IT" a few times. throught the years. & i agree they NEED to make a version that is long enough to have MORE than was put in the (1990) version. but it's a film i actually do enjoy to watch despite all that was cut. i loved "Insomnia"
& "Rose Madder" i think cause at the time it was something really different than he normally wrote. & his style is soo well OUT of there if that makes any kind of sense. in those 2 books. i do agree that "GTD" would be perfect for those 2 books as films i mean. one book that i do enjoy & to
be honest i can't say if i remember if posted this or not? but if i have sorry for my repeating was the book "Dolores Clairborne" it took me ages it feels like to read that book. not that i thought it was bad. it's just on how he wrote that one. the film i think is better. plus i've loved "Kathy Bates" since she did "Misery" over 20 years ago now. hard to believe it's been that long but it has.
I actually hope Pet Sematary gets remade. That original TV IMO was horrendous!!! It was painful to watch. I don't mean the subject matter either.
the only two King movies that didn't make me want to put the director out of his misery right away by way of radical bearmauling were Shawshank and Secret Window. I very much hope del Toro can add a third
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I thought The Green Mile was very good too.
I liked The Shining too, although it was quite a departure from the book.
I never said bears had impeccable taste, Brain...
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Whereas The Green Mile film was quite faithful to the book that it was based on. Indisputably good filmmaking, and a real boost to SK's reputation with the mainstream public. I think the only grounds for seriously criticizing it would be if someone doesn't like the original story. There are some valid points that could be raised against it, I reckon. But at least that movie definitely did not fail out of someone bastardizing King's vision, or his sad habit of doing it to himself as in (for example) Pet Semetary.
right - I didn't really like the original story... but there were other things I hated about the movie (the disney-ish stardust coming from mouth is only one of them, though probably the worst).
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I got the impression it was more like a swarm of bugs and that happened in the book too. Still I guess we have our own imagination as to how that looked.. which is fair enough.
Absolutely. There's no reason The Shining couldn't have gone that route of course and still worked.Whereas The Green Mile film was quite faithful to the book that it was based on.Spoiler:
As a straight up horror, I felt it worked very well though. I've never seen the Shining mini-series all the way through but I think the depiction of Jack fitted the book better.
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I have, and you're right, it did, but Kubrick's version still worked better as a straight up horror.
Yes, but to me it just illustrates how tricky it is to adapt books, and how what is "true" to the text may prove quite wrong visually - stricktly in my personal opinion, of course. It's like with Macbeth: the remark goes, "Witches vanish", but when they do actually vanish before our very eyes, it could so easily look ridiculous, break the fabric of the narrative and plunge us into the realm of quite different associations (say-hey-abracadabra, they do it with mirrors, and of course a thousand cheap horror/mystery flicks, let alone fairy tales adaptations) that the director really really has to think of something if he wants to avoid falling into this trap.
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That makes a lot of sense. You're making me want to watch it again with more scrutiny!
Speaking of Del Toro, here's a nice article: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...urrentPage=all
Hellboy 3, Del Toro...then you can move on.
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