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    I think Roland had feelings for Rosa beyond...

    I think Roland had feelings for Rosa beyond physical attraction. I know some people question whether what he and Susan had was really "love" because of their youth, but I think Roland had genuine...
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    Before we knew that we were having a girl, I...

    Before we knew that we were having a girl, I consistently lobbied my wife to name a potential son Roland. Though she is a Tower junkie, she nixed that idea. Luckily we had a girl so it never came up...
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    Finally. I can't believe I had to wait 13 posts...

    Finally. I can't believe I had to wait 13 posts for you to make that joke. I knew it would eventually be made and I was positive it would be by you, it was just a matter of when.
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    Interesting question Letti. I don't know if it...

    Interesting question Letti. I don't know if it qualifies him as an adult (full-time anyway) but I think the decision he made about turning in Hax the cook was definitely an adult decision to make....
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    Absolutely. I highly recommend Bev's book for...

    Absolutely. I highly recommend Bev's book for anyone who has yet to read it. There's a wealth of information about DT in there.
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    he sounded like John Cusack does pretty much all...

    he sounded like John Cusack does pretty much all the time, which is not at all how I hear Roland
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    he is, he played Gordie's dead older brother in...

    John Cusack~When he was in the movie Stand By Me, the Stephen King adaptation of The Body.[/QUOTE]

    Are you sure John Cusack is in that one. I don't recall...[/QUOTE]

    he is, he played Gordie's...
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    it's hard for me to say. as a religious studies...

    it's hard for me to say. as a religious studies major i don't see any of them as all that fundamentally different. perhaps in practice but not in terms of the overall nature of the metaphors....
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    I'd even go so far as to say he "believes" in...

    I'd even go so far as to say he "believes" in Gan, but I can't say from what we read exactly what he thinks that entails, ie. I'm not sure if Roland thinks Gan is the world, or is within the world,...
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    Precisely SJ, I see Gan as THE Creative Force....

    Precisely SJ, I see Gan as THE Creative Force. "He" for lack of a better word, set the worlds in motion, but does not act as Master per se. As to the second part of your question, I see Ka and Gan as...
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    I see Gan as the worlds within time and space...

    I see Gan as the worlds within time and space embodied by the Tower, not as an entity that lives in the top of the Tower. In other words, I don't see Gan as a "participatory" force in the multiverse,...
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    seems like it could be an effective device for...

    I have to wonder if that was part of the excuse he built up to distance himself though. I would figure that he would know that afterawhile the shared wheres and whens would not matter and their...
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    true matthew. additionally, on some level roland...

    true matthew. additionally, on some level roland knew that since they were all from very similar wheres and whens, they shared something that he did not, a basis of collective memory in which roland...
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    also, i don't think there is more than one Roland.

    also, i don't think there is more than one Roland.
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    i still believe an anti-hero is still a type of...

    i still believe an anti-hero is still a type of hero. he's certainly not a villain. he definitely meets all the criteria to fit into the archetypal "hero" role in literature/myth.
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    Could not have said it better myself T. From the...

    Could not have said it better myself T. From the time the oracle on, Roland knows what is to become of Jake under the mountains and we the reader are led to believe that if he loses Walter here the...
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    I think "to catch the man in Black" is selling it...

    I think "to catch the man in Black" is selling it short. He did it to catch the man in black so he could reach the Tower. Everything was to reach the Tower. To save Jake's life at the expense of...
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    :dance: We seem to agree more about Roland's...

    :dance:

    We seem to agree more about Roland's world than we do our own T. lol
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    I agree with you T, I can't see why people can't...

    I agree with you T, I can't see why people can't get past this one event. For starters, when Roland was in Jack Mort he refused to participate in killing Jake, and thus creating the paradox. His...
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    Alinda - I believe it came up in the Susannah...

    Alinda - I believe it came up in the Susannah thread as well, but I don't see where Roland is selfish. Again I ask you to look at the palaver between Roland and Slightman the elder right before the...
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