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not as much metaphors as the angles of interpretations; could be pretty literal. The difference (Christian saint vs. bodhisattva of infinite lead) would of course explain why I want to see the...

Then please resist the urge to quote, bump threads, and derail them. Thanks.

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This thread hasn't seen any love in awhile and I thought some of the newcomers might like it. Read it from the beginning.

Ck, we've been mentioned things like this all along. Its called a "free will" theodicy. Again, redemption cannot transpire unless perfection is lost. Therefore, certain events are set in motion to...

Jean, I'm not sure what the topic is for this thread (Brice kind of left it wide open). I would like to talk about human and divine agency as well. Is there a thread already, or should you start one?...

I forgot one thing. Jean, while I agree to an extent about what you said concerning human agency, I do tend to see Gan as a harsh arbiter of things. I can't stop thinking about Roland crying out for...

As close as can be expected Jayson (these are hard questions). Thank you for mulling it over and getting back to me.

Jean, thanks for what you said. I've always thought that King has some Catholic...

Thats very interesting...Do you think the whole multiverse is inherent with that idea? i.e everyone continues a cycle until they are redeemed?

The idea also makes Gan seem harsh, but that...

I think thats the major idea behind it Jayson, though you and I seem to be in a minority. Still, what do we do with Roland's "redemption"? I only use the word because that is how SK presents it in...

No, thank you sir. :thumbsup:

Also along this same thread of thought. If Roland does save the Tower, does that mean that he saves Gan? Is that what is implied by redemption? The Tower is Gan, and its Gan who pushes him through...

That's certainly interesting Storyslinger. The only problem is that the Tower was already saved at Blue Haven (or so the consensus seems to be). That's why I posed it from Gan's perspective. The horn...

I think it might be interesting to discuss what gives Gan pleasure i.e. how is he existentially viable? If he is the progenitor of the tower cycle, and the cycle is contingent upon Roland, then I...